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Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry

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I'm betting she had SARS Corona, not the current COVD-19 Corona virus.


That said, I suffered the "Flu" earlier this year and the symptoms exactly matched the Corona virus we were supposed to not yet have.

Given the Chinese proclivity to lying, and the low credibility of our MSM, nothing abut this disease panic would surprise me. But I do have to ask our government, how come the Folks in S Korea can test 20,000 per day for COVD-19 and we still do not have any testing available here?
 
Some wise words from Italy.

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I am writing to you from Bergamo, Italy, at the heart of the coronavirus crisis. The news media in the US has not captured the severity of what is happening here. I am writing this post because each of you, today, not the government, not the school district, not the mayor, each individual citizen has the chance, today to take actions that will deter the Italian situation from becoming your own country’s reality. The only way to stop this virus is to limit contagion. And the only way to limit contagion is for millions of people to change their behavior today.

If you are in Europe or the US you are weeks away from where we are today in Italy.

I can hear you now. “It’s just a flu. It only affects old people with preconditions”

There are 2 reasons why Coronavirus has brought Italy to it’s knees. First it is a flu is devastating when people get really sick they need weeks of ICU – and, second, because of how fast and effectively it spreads. There is 2 week incubation period and many who have it never show symptoms.

When Prime Minister Conte announced last night that the entire country, 60 million people, would go on lock down, the line that struck me most was “there is no more time.” Because to be clear, this national lock down, is a hail mary. What he means is that if the numbers of contagion do not start to go down, the system, Italy, will collapse.

Why? Today the ICUs in Lombardy are at capacity – more than capacity. They have begun to put ICU units in the hallways. If the numbers do not go down, the growth rate of contagion tells us that there will be thousands of people who in a matter of a week? two weeks? who will need care. What will happen when there are 100, or a 1000 people who need the hospital and only a few ICU places left?

On Monday a doctor wrote in the paper that they have begun to have to decide who lives and who dies when the patients show up in the emergency room, like what is done in war. This will only get worse.

There are a finite number of drs, nurses, medical staff and they are getting the virus. They have also been working non-stop, non-stop for days and days. What happens when the drs, nurses and medical staff are simply not able to care for the patients, when they are not there?

And finally for those who say that this is just something that happens to old people, starting yesterday the hospitals are reporting that younger and younger patients – 40, 45, 18, are coming in for treatment.

You have a chance to make a difference and stop the spread in your country. Push for the entire office to work at home today, cancel birthday parties, and other gatherings, stay home as much as you can. If you have a fever, any fever, stay home. Push for school closures, now. Anything you can do to stop the spread, because it is spreading in your communities – there is a two week incubation period – and if you do these things now you can buy your medical system time.

And for those who say it is not possible to close the schools, and do all these other things, locking down Italy was beyond anyone’s imagination a week ago.

Soon you will not have a choice, so do what you can now.

Please share.
 
I'm betting she had SARS Corona, not the current COVD-19 Corona virus.


That said, I suffered the "Flu" earlier this year and the symptoms exactly matched the Corona virus we were supposed to not yet have.


Given the Chinese proclivity to lying, and the low credibility of our MSM, nothing abut this disease panic would surprise me. But I do have to ask our government, how come the Folks in S Korea can test 20,000 per day for COVD-19 and we still do not have any testing available here?
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It's what myself and many others have been saying all along, Franc.
 
Here's one possible reason. Seems most of our antibiotics are made in China. Maybe the test kits are too. No one is telling the truth. Fox News is the only one asking as far as I know and i have yet to hear a straight answer.

They are all lying assholes who only care to fire proof their own asses, at the expense of all our asses. I hate them all.

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International Women's Day march in Madrid recently drew big crowds ... A flashing-red headline from BBG just declared that Spain is announcing a national state of emergency over the outbreak, as the number of confirmed cases in Madrid soars amid a rash of deaths.

Socialist PM Pedro Sanchez said that he isn't ruling out the possibility that there will be more than "100,000 cases of coronavirus in Spain" as early as next week.

Perhaps they should have practiced a bit of social distancing as a proactive way to flatten the growth curve to prevent overwhelming the health system?
 
Ever been to Europe? They are friggin' idiots. They love to lecture us on how cultured they are, yet they still piss in the streets. I have never seen such a large group of people lack common sense like they do.

Bottom line, our beloved POTUS has shut them off from coming here. Soon he will declare a National Emergency which will give him broader powers to fight this. Let the Euros wallow in their own shit and migrants.

Sorry for being blunt, but these are blunt times to be living in.
 
They love to lecture us on how cultured they are, yet they still piss in the streets.

Where? And we don't have that problem here? If pissing in the street is your criteria for judging a culture, we're pretty much fucked bro'.

No need to apologize for being blunt but at least be honest.
 
Where? And we don't have that problem here? If pissing in the street is your criteria for judging a culture, we're pretty much fucked bro'.

No need to apologize for being blunt but at least be honest.

I see no argument from you on the lack of common sense, though.: th_lmao::th_lmao: :thumbup:
 
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I haven't been to Italy but I recently got this from a family member who has:

In Italy, they live on top of each other and they kiss when they greet each other. And they live in small homes with multiple generations in one house.

Could this be a problem we won't see because of our social differences?
 
I’m in Bloomington, IN for a few days. It’s home of Indiana University with something around 40,000 students. The kids have already begun leaving campus for spring break. Went to the Kroger Supermarket a few blocks away and every shopping cart was in use. Parking lot was full. People looked serious and carts were stacked to nearly overflowing. Paper goods aisle was cleaned out. Goods like rice and beans and noodles were low. Canned soups and other canned goods low. But no crowds in the meats or frozen foods areas.

I bought 3 donuts and a box of frozen spring rolls.
 
I’m in Bloomington, IN for a few days. It’s home of Indiana University with something around 40,000 students. The kids have already begun leaving campus for spring break. Went to the Kroger Supermarket a few blocks away and every shopping cart was in use. Parking lot was full. People looked serious and carts were stacked to nearly overflowing. Paper goods aisle was cleaned out. Goods like rice and beans and noodles were low. Canned soups and other canned goods low. But no crowds in the meats or frozen foods areas.

I bought 3 donuts and a box of frozen spring rolls.

Great survival food right there. :th_lmao:
 
I believe now and have since this whole thing started that the Chinese have been dishonest.
Did they created this strain of virus to control their own population?
Did it spin way out of control and make it's way into other countries?
Something to ponder, isn't it?
What about the treatment of the Chinese people who were said to be dying in large numbers?
Did this really happen?
The Chinese doctor who the media were reporting as having died from the virus?
Some are now saying he in fact did not die at all.
On a global scale, I don't know what the hell to think about any of that now.
 
I see no argument from you on the lack of common sense, though.: th_lmao::th_lmao: :thumbup:

We both live in the USA and you think lack of common sense is a purely European trait. Surely not! Look around you.

Deand1, you are exactly right. The population density, for the most part, is much higher in most parts of Europe. People tend to live in smaller houses and apartments and much closer together.

It is part of the culture, especially in Latin countries, to greet friends and relatives with a kiss on one or both cheeks. That alone makes the transmission of the virus much easier but we do the same thing here, especially with family.

I have no idea where this thing is heading but I'm told that the Governor of Texas just made some kind of announcement. I better go find out what he's talking about because that does affect me.
 
Hopefully, this helps to bring more manufacturing back to the US. The chinese have poisoned our dogs with melamine, given us at least 2 pandemics, put cancer causing chemicals in our medications, and who knows what else. They would be doing us a favor by refusing to sell us their crap.
 
When Trump was asked if he was getting tested for Coronavirus, he should of said yeah, right after Biden gets tested for dementia.
 
Hopefully, this helps to bring more manufacturing back to the US. The chinese have poisoned our dogs with melamine, given us at least 2 pandemics, put cancer causing chemicals in our medications, and who knows what else. They would be doing us a favor by refusing to sell us their crap.

They would do us a favor if they just blew themselves up.
 
Hopefully, this helps to bring more manufacturing back to the US. The chinese have poisoned our dogs with melamine, given us at least 2 pandemics, put cancer causing chemicals in our medications, and who knows what else. They would be doing us a favor by refusing to sell us their crap.

I have friends who lost their dog due to the melamine. :hammer:

No telling what else they are doing/have done to all of us.

Getting them out of our supply chain is a good thing.
 
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Facts about COVID19:

1) It is a virus. Just like influenza (flu) is a virus. It is in family of Coronaviruses that cause colds but this strain of virus is more virulent. The disease from it is called COVID19. There is no shame in getting it. It is a virus.

2) Antibiotics do not work on viruses.

3) The best preventative medicine is healthy diet, exercising (yes seriously), and WASHING YOUR HANDS. A lot. This does not mean that splash of soap quickly run your hands under the water thing. This means a full 20 seconds, 2 rounds of singing the alphabet, washing hands and fingers with soap thing. Wash your hands every time you go to a new place, come home, go to a meeting etc.

4) DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE. I know we all do this and if you try not to consciously, you will find out you do it ALLLLLLL the time. so, back to #3, wash your hands!! If you wash your hands, then there are fewer germs on your hands and those germs have less chance of making contact with your mucous membranes.

5) OK. Some science: Viruses, especially this one, live on surfaces. You touch the surface and then you put that little germ in contact with your mucous membranes which then the virus is like--'wee, a place i can live and replicate'...yeah, see we don’t want that. So keep your house and workspace clean and wipe down surfaces regularly.

6) OK..more science about viruses: Before people get obviously sick with a virus, they can have that virus in their body and not look or feel sick. So, if someone has the novel coronavirus and is lucky to be healthy, but let's say wipes their mouth and then touches the table at your local eatery. Or, they sneeze because that perfume in the mall is just too much, the virus from this NON-sick person finds its way to surfaces. Then you accidentally touch the surface with the virus and then you touch your mouth, nose, eyes-well back to #5 then. This is why viruses spread easily in large crowds and gatherings.

7) As the next few weeks come and go there will be more testing. The more we test, the more people will test positive. Consider this: if more people are positive but are not that sick or not sick at all, it means that the overall mortality rate will eventually be LOWER. So, try not to panic when you see more positive tests.

8)Do not go buy all the toilet paper at Costco. (RESPIRATORY illness people)

9) Do not be afraid to NOT shake people's hands. That’s a reasonable part of trying to keep each other safe. A smile and a head nod goes a long way.

10) Children do NOT seem to be at great risk. This is good. Folks over 60 or those with chronic disease (especially lung) ARE at higher risk. Consider this for loved ones and members of your community. (More science--this virus likes to go to the lungs, so those whose lungs that are already a bit burdened or older are going to be more affected by the virus).

11) DO THIS:
--buy enough food so that if you need to stay at home for 2 weeks or so you could.
-- work from home when it’s reasonable for you to
--avoid large meetings and gatherings.
--wash your hands A LOT (see above)
--cough and sneeze into your elbow
--DO NOT SEND A FEVERISH KID TO SCHOOL
--DO NOT GO TO WORK IF YOU HAVE A FEVER
--DO NOT RUN TO THE ER IF YOU HAVE A COLD
--If someone you spend time with has been tested and clearly diagnosed with COVID19, it means that you are at risk and should stay home.

Remember, the goals for all of us are:
1) not to get sick if possible.
2) keep others from getting sick!

--LAST THING HERE--this one is SO IMPORTANT. If and when they come up with a vaccine for this one, TAKE THE VACCINE. TAKE THE VACCINE. GIVE IT TO YOUR KIDS. AND, for heaven's sake, start or keeping taking the FLU Vaccine.

Oh yeah, one more thing... be nice to healthcare workers. They’re working harder than ever.

Help each other out and just be kind.
 
Sharing as this might be accurate. I'm not sure, but I've seen in more than one place drinking often so that your throat is not dry helps. so ....
 

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Borrowed - very good!
Facts about COVID19:

1) It is a virus. Just like influenza (flu) is a virus. It is in family of Coronaviruses that cause colds but this strain of virus is more virulent. The disease from it is called COVID19. There is no shame in getting it. It is a virus.

2) Antibiotics do not work on viruses.

3) The best preventative medicine is healthy diet, exercising (yes seriously), and WASHING YOUR HANDS. A lot. This does not mean that splash of soap quickly run your hands under the water thing. This means a full 20 seconds, 2 rounds of singing the alphabet, washing hands and fingers with soap thing. Wash your hands every time you go to a new place, come home, go to a meeting etc.

4) DO NOT TOUCH YOUR FACE. I know we all do this and if you try not to consciously, you will find out you do it ALLLLLLL the time. so, back to #3, wash your hands!! If you wash your hands, then there are fewer germs on your hands and those germs have less chance of making contact with your mucous membranes.

5) OK. Some science: Viruses, especially this one, live on surfaces. You touch the surface and then you put that little germ in contact with your mucous membranes which then the virus is like--'wee, a place i can live and replicate'...yeah, see we don’t want that. So keep your house and workspace clean and wipe down surfaces regularly.

6) OK..more science about viruses: Before people get obviously sick with a virus, they can have that virus in their body and not look or feel sick. So, if someone has the novel coronavirus and is lucky to be healthy, but let's say wipes their mouth and then touches the table at your local eatery. Or, they sneeze because that perfume in the mall is just too much, the virus from this NON-sick person finds its way to surfaces. Then you accidentally touch the surface with the virus and then you touch your mouth, nose, eyes-well back to #5 then. This is why viruses spread easily in large crowds and gatherings.

7) As the next few weeks come and go there will be more testing. The more we test, the more people will test positive. Consider this: if more people are positive but are not that sick or not sick at all, it means that the overall mortality rate will eventually be LOWER. So, try not to panic when you see more positive tests.

8)Do not go buy all the toilet paper at Costco. (RESPIRATORY illness people)

9) Do not be afraid to NOT shake people's hands. That’s a reasonable part of trying to keep each other safe. A smile and a head nod goes a long way.

10) Children do NOT seem to be at great risk. This is good. Folks over 60 or those with chronic disease (especially lung) ARE at higher risk. Consider this for loved ones and members of your community. (More science--this virus likes to go to the lungs, so those whose lungs that are already a bit burdened or older are going to be more affected by the virus).

11) DO THIS:
--buy enough food so that if you need to stay at home for 2 weeks or so you could.
-- work from home when it’s reasonable for you to
--avoid large meetings and gatherings.
--wash your hands A LOT (see above)
--cough and sneeze into your elbow
--DO NOT SEND A FEVERISH KID TO SCHOOL
--DO NOT GO TO WORK IF YOU HAVE A FEVER
--DO NOT RUN TO THE ER IF YOU HAVE A COLD
--If someone you spend time with has been tested and clearly diagnosed with COVID19, it means that you are at risk and should stay home.

Remember, the goals for all of us are:
1) not to get sick if possible.
2) keep others from getting sick!

--LAST THING HERE--this one is SO IMPORTANT. If and when they come up with a vaccine for this one, TAKE THE VACCINE. TAKE THE VACCINE. GIVE IT TO YOUR KIDS. AND, for heaven's sake, start or keeping taking the FLU Vaccine.

Oh yeah, one more thing... be nice to healthcare workers. They’re working harder than ever.

Help each other out and just be kind.




THANK YOU DOC!!!!
 
I ran into one more I thought worth sharing: Corona Virus spread rate Italy and US to date.

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Covid-19 Update. Here is a graphic comparing the rate of rise of covid case numbers in US vs Italy. We are right on track to be where they are in 11 days (almost 20k cases), we’re even a bit ahead as of today. The gist of this is we should do everything we can to reduce the rate of transmission.

What we can all do to reduce the spread rate:

This is a simple matter of avoiding contacts as much as possible and especially avoiding groups, events, meetings.
 

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But Italy has less than 1/5 of the US population so to be equal, we should have 5-times the number.
They're also closer together.
Italy has average of 520 per sq/mi.
USA has less than 100 per sq/mi (not counting the land mass of Alaska).
 
Well here's how I figure it:
Hand sanitizer kills the virus.

The active ingredient in hand sanitizer is alcohol.
The active ingredient in Vodka is also alcohol.

I can wash my hands with vodka and I can drink it.
There's no way in hell I'm ever going to catch this virus.
 
Something to think about is if the warm weather does not kill it off it will get a lot worse and we will be dealing with it for more than 3 months just like China before it starts to go away.
 
I ran into one more I thought worth sharing: Corona Virus spread rate Italy and US to date.

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Covid-19 Update. Here is a graphic comparing the rate of rise...

But we are actually NOT testing enough.

I think once we start getting the tests available we may well see a big jump in cases. They only report 'confirmed' cases. We could literally have 10x that amount but we simply have no clue.
 
Well here's how I figure it:
Hand sanitizer kills the virus.

The active ingredient in hand sanitizer is alcohol.
The active ingredient in Vodka is also alcohol.

I can wash my hands with vodka and I can drink it.
There's no way in hell I'm ever going to catch this virus.

Well, I would say so far Trump's COVID-19 Panel's efforts to flatten the infection rate curve is working. So far so good I would say.

The European countries have really dropped the ball on this bigly and it looks like it will not be much longer for them to overwhelm their healthcare facilities and be in real deep shit.

Trump and his team seem to be doing a bang up job so far. Like I said, time will tell.
 
Well here's how I figure it:
Hand sanitizer kills the virus.

The active ingredient in hand sanitizer is alcohol.
The active ingredient in Vodka is also alcohol.

I can wash my hands with vodka and I can drink it.
There's no way in hell I'm ever going to catch this virus.

Not quite. Hand sanitizer, to be effective, has to be at least 60% alcohol. Vodka is only 40% alcohol. So washing your hands with vodka won't kill the virus but, alternatively, if you drink enough of the vodka you won't give a shit anyway. :thumbup:

Tito's vodka actually made an announcement on their web page telling people NOT to use their vodka in any home recipe for hand sanitizer because it's not concentrated enough. Straight moonshine would probably work.

We do seems to be edging ever closer to a total lockdown.
 
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