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Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry

Just got back from the grocery store. Went for bananas and stop at pharmacy.

The paper and sanitizing products are wiped out, shelves bare. Everything else seemed to be at least half full on the shelves. Was looking at people's shopping carts. No overflowing carts and most people appeared to be "normal" shopping.
 
Based on a speech by NY governor and Nj governor Murray and comments from others I would say inside the next 2 weeks the entire country will shut down for a period of time to flatten the curve.
 
That's what's happening up here in Canada. Trudeau just closed the borders to overseas travel.

https://trib.al/Z03YKNT

I think it needs to happen, Cut off all travel make everyone stay home for a month. It will be painful but it will have played out and gone, if we don't and it hangs around its just going to get worse and stay around longer effecting more people. Just do it, shut everything down.
 
If they try to park all the 18 wheelers that will start the revolution!!
Mike

They should keep commerce going. Air and truck commodities only with tag team deliveries not using truck stops, to warehouses for local deliveries then control retail outlets by only letting small amounts of people into the parking area and stores limiting purchases so everyone gets something.
 
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;2 then control retail outlets by only letting small amounts of people into the parking area and stores limiting purchases so everyone gets something.

That almost sounds communistic to me!! You'll love bernie's plan.
Mike
 
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I have this strange out of the world Orwellian feeling about the times right now.
Was discussing it earlier with my one son.
He says Mom, I don't ever remember feeling like this before.
Same here, kiddo..
 
I have this strange out of the world Orwellian feeling about the times right now.
Was discussing it earlier with my one son.
He says Mom, I don't ever remember feeling like this before.
Same here, kiddo..

I here you, I'm 62 and can not remember anything like this, closest thing I can remember were the riots in Detroit near where we lived in 68. I would rather face a walking dead situation than this at least you could see it coming.
 
I here you, I'm 62 and can not remember anything like this, closest thing I can remember were the riots in Detroit near where we lived in 68. I would rather face a walking dead situation than this at least you could see it coming.

Marty, for me it's not that I fear a horrible take off of this virus wiping out huge numbers of people in the USA as much as how it's changed the very fabric of our existence.
How we deal with others.
Stress levels are high for every damn situation and reason because of the uncertainty some are feeling.
 
Marty, for me it's not that I fear a horrible take off of this virus wiping out huge numbers of people in the USA as much as how it's changed the very fabric of our existence.
How we deal with others.
Stress levels are high for every damn situation and reason because of the uncertainty some are feeling.

For me its being a little scared and a little anxiety because I have never lived a Pandemic before and I don't know how it is going to turn out. Is this going to be every year now? I think if it goes away completely people will return to normal life like after the 1918 pandemic
But if it doesn't go away, is seasonal or your not immune after getting it,that will be a game changer.
 
We held our last session at our fencing club tonight. Closed the club until the Monday after Easter ... or later. My club is a non-profit. But clubs that rely on dues for income are going to be in trouble, just like a lot of other small businesses around the country. It's going to be tough. My club is trying to brainstorm with one of the for-profit clubs to keep them afloat, working to do live-streaming of workouts, etc for the members. While our club is recreational, we rely on some of the for-profit clubs for serious coaching and to help the handful of competitive members we have at our club.

The world has changed. Local businesses of all types are going to be in trouble. Amazon has been a threat to them for the past few years and now people are afraid to go into local stores and are turning to Amazon and the UPS brown truck to deliver goods to their porch.

Stores are being shut down by the government and may not survive. People are afraid. Hospitals may be overrun and medical staff will likely be exhausted for months and survive on caffeine. Mortgage payments? Food? Education? Childcare?
 
As for amazon can UPS,Fedex and USPS trust amazon packages to be virus free?? Yes, I believe there will be lots of small businesses going belly up but I think, in this respect, the chickens are coming home to roost.
Mike
 
As for amazon can UPS,Fedex and USPS trust amazon packages to be virus free?? Yes, I believe there will be lots of small businesses going belly up but I think, in this respect, the chickens are coming home to roost.
Mike

Reasonably? Yes. The virus can survive on hard surfaces like steel or marble for something like 9 hours, but some suggest 3 days. But on porous surfaces it survives for less time. That said, a package typically is in shipment for 24 to 48 hours under Amazon PRIME shipping and for much longer under USPS shipping.

So its unlikely that a package will carry Covid-19 and if it does it only carries it because the UPS or Postal worker is infected. Easy solution is to let the package sit on your porch overnight ... or spray it down this Lysol or a solution of household bleach mixed with water.
 
I'm done.
I've had it with this shit.

Freak the hell out if you want to with this year's great oh my god the world is over force fed mind fuck.

You get today.
That's it. Assuming you make it to bedtime.
If tomorrow comes, and you're present for it, yay, you get to start a new day.

You had yesterday, but there is no promise on any level for tomorrow.

Some people are getting sick.
Bummer.

A lot of people aren't.

You might as well focus on the fact that a gumball might fall from space and wipe out your favorite pacman character.

There is no sense in wringing your hands off worrying about something that may, or may not happen.

Go hide under a rock.
Collect toilet paper, or tree leaves if it makes you feel secure, but it won't stop you from getting run over by a bus tomorrow if that's in your cards.

Live with one foot in yesterday, the other in tomorrow, and you're just pissing all over today.

The world isn't ending.

Even if it is, you can't stop it.

Have fun until then, there's still the rest of today.
 
PA has closed all liquor stores effective last night. Went to the store yesterday. Checkout line went to the back of the store and started to wrap around. I just walked back out.

Went to the beer store. It's normally 1-2 people in there. The line was probably 20 people deep. I got some beer anyway. ;)
 
I was surprised when they announced the liquor stores were staying open. I guess they figured that liquor is an essential service for all those parents stuck at home with their kids. [emoji1787]
 
I just saw that our premier Doug Ford has declared a state of emergency in Ontario.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/mobile/o...of-emergency-amid-covid-19-pandemic-1.4856033

Edit: there's another article that says he's committing $300 million to opening more hospital beds and such to deal with the strain on hospitals.

"The premier also announced a $300-million “first stage” relief package, aimed at ramping up containment efforts.
The fund will go to providing 75 more critical care beds, 500 more acute care beds, 75 more COVID-19 response centres, purchasing more personal protective equipment and adding 1,000 more nurses and 50 more doctors to cover emergency response."
 
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Experts now think it could last up to 18 months coming in waves and to expect shortages.

I'm apt to think "Experts" rank right up there with engineers.
They have lots of ideas, but in reality many of their theories and applications just don't work in the real world, or at best, make things more difficult than they should be.

I'll just leave this here.
 

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Calm, attentive, thoughtful actions on the part of individual would go a LONG way......be responsible....help the helpless, hold up the weak, do the next right thing.....give up the "fear" and quit broadcasting it....one day at a time.....step up and be the person you always wanted to be!!
 
I'm apt to think "Experts" rank right up there with engineers.
They have lots of ideas, but in reality many of their theories and applications just don't work in the real world, or at best, make things more difficult than they should be.

I'll just leave this here.

Model predictions that have been posted are not too far off from reality and they did get us to the moon so if you can't do that maybe we should listen.
 
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