Fear is the only thing that keeps people from doing stupid shit.
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Fear is the only thing that keeps people from doing stupid shit.
marchplumber
Member
Let's review with a simple, factual checklist.
7663 confirmed cases as of today. But the President's press conference talked about how the current number is under reported and we will begin to see big jumps in the numbers now that high speed testing results are becoming more widely available. I would think a 10x increase in reported cases is reasonable within a week if the testing is accomplished. So far all the testing promises have been over-promised and have under-tested.
Here is 3 examplse of what I mean
1- putting on a blindfold and running back and forth across the freeway
2- liquidating all you assets and buying lottery tickets
3- going into the woods and poking a bear with a stick
these examples also correlate to stupid so thats why God gave us fear.
Give me 3 examples of what you are talking about.
Bannedjoe
Well-known member
Not trying to play devil's advocate, or even be a smart ass, but if everyone could be tested right now, how would that change anything?
The sick will still be sick, and the infected will still be infected.
What will they do, dig a big hole and shove them all in?
Imprison them all until a vaccine is developed and becomes widely available?
The sick will still be sick, and the infected will still be infected.
What will they do, dig a big hole and shove them all in?
Imprison them all until a vaccine is developed and becomes widely available?
NorthernRedneck
Well-known member
Be prepared for an influx of Canadian snowbirds heading north in the next couple weeks. Mine were in Arizona for the winter and were supposed to be coming back mid April. They left today. My wife's parents also winter there. They're leaving monday. This is all due to coronavirus
tiredretired
The Old Salt
Let's go with your assumption. Sounds reasonable enough at this point.
Currently we have 8000 reported cases in the US with 124 deaths. .015% death rate.
If we had testing right now and the reported cases became 80,000 with 124 deaths. .0015% death rate.
Wouldn't this death rate be lower than the conventional flu we see every year or at least very close to it?
I think there is one more component to calculating that. How many folks are in ICU with it right now. The numbers of infected are recent and it takes a few weeks to a month to die from it.
Refugee admissions suspended-
The Trump administration has suspended refugee admissions until April 6 due to the coronavirus outbreak, a State Department spokesperson says.
The Trump administration has suspended refugee admissions until April 6 due to the coronavirus outbreak, a State Department spokesperson says.
They may have trouble doing it. My S-I-L is trying to get back to East Texas from Georgia but all her usual campgrounds and State Parks are closing or have closed their campsites. Some of the rattier places may still be open and good enough for an overnight otherwise it's going to be Walmart and Cracker Barrel car parks.
1- you will know how many sick in your area so you know if its safe or to stay home
2- if things get too bad, it has been done before, think war time
3- and yes if it gets bad enough you could find yourself locked up in a FEMA camp if you don't have some place to go away from people with supplies. I know that sounds harsh but there are people dead all around the world, the US is in lock down along with everyone else, the stock market is crashed down to 2015 levels, grocery stores are sold out, lots of people are out of work and pretty soon won't have the money to buy it anyway. I have never seen anything like this before have you? Its not just the illness. I hope I helped to answer you question.
marchplumber
Member
m1west,
Fear is a natural reaction to events beyond the control of the individual. "Boogie monster", unemployment, loss of family member, etc etc......normal everyday "fears"
What I am speaking of is the irrational fear that people experience in times of "uncertainty"
FIRE!!!! People, IN FEAR stampede for the door.............many are trampled, killed and injured unnecessarily........calm, rational thought............get to doors quickly and orderly.
Fear of "not getting enough" equals irrational hording.............from empty shelves and unnecessary shortages...........(remember the MOBS at the front doors of stores on past Black Fridays??? Willing and able to hurt ALL who got in their way to the best deal or cabbage patch kid???)
Fear causes the inability to make coherent decisions based on facts, not feelings. Feelings are NOT facts, but they are powerful. Fear of the "unknown" has kept many trapped in horrendous relationships and situations. The Fear to change??? That's a big one. Has been said that change is painless, it's the resistance to change that hurts like a S.O. B.
I meant that people should calm their fears. Face the facts. Move forward in a "kind" and helpful way INSTEAD of screaming and running like a herd of sheep, pushing, pulling, and trampling whatever/whoever is ahead of them for FEAR that they won't "get theirs"..............
Self-sacrifice...................courage...................common sense...............determination to do the next right thing, no matter what others do...........defend the weak, uphold the law, stand for what you believe in...............
Now? Is a time to show the world TRULY what we are made of, nationally and locally.....................
Hope this helped.
Fear is a natural reaction to events beyond the control of the individual. "Boogie monster", unemployment, loss of family member, etc etc......normal everyday "fears"
What I am speaking of is the irrational fear that people experience in times of "uncertainty"
FIRE!!!! People, IN FEAR stampede for the door.............many are trampled, killed and injured unnecessarily........calm, rational thought............get to doors quickly and orderly.
Fear of "not getting enough" equals irrational hording.............from empty shelves and unnecessary shortages...........(remember the MOBS at the front doors of stores on past Black Fridays??? Willing and able to hurt ALL who got in their way to the best deal or cabbage patch kid???)
Fear causes the inability to make coherent decisions based on facts, not feelings. Feelings are NOT facts, but they are powerful. Fear of the "unknown" has kept many trapped in horrendous relationships and situations. The Fear to change??? That's a big one. Has been said that change is painless, it's the resistance to change that hurts like a S.O. B.
I meant that people should calm their fears. Face the facts. Move forward in a "kind" and helpful way INSTEAD of screaming and running like a herd of sheep, pushing, pulling, and trampling whatever/whoever is ahead of them for FEAR that they won't "get theirs"..............
Self-sacrifice...................courage...................common sense...............determination to do the next right thing, no matter what others do...........defend the weak, uphold the law, stand for what you believe in...............
Now? Is a time to show the world TRULY what we are made of, nationally and locally.....................
Hope this helped.
I hear what you are saying, I think we are kind of saying the same thing
Fear 1-5 level keeps you safe
Fear 6-10 level= panic and I agree panic helps no-one
Is that what we are saying?
At this minute, this virus is great.
I had to change the title to a car I just bought plus re-up my driver's license.
I went in last Wednesday, the place was packed, and the lady at the counter asked if I'd like an appointment in a week. I said sure, figuring I might only have to wait a half hour instead of the posted hour and half that day.
Well holy Jesus - I went there today, and the only people allowed in were those with appointments! They let me in, went up to the best looking counter girl and out in less than ten minutes! The place was a ghost town, but open!
BTW - she was still a bitchy government employee.
I had to change the title to a car I just bought plus re-up my driver's license.
I went in last Wednesday, the place was packed, and the lady at the counter asked if I'd like an appointment in a week. I said sure, figuring I might only have to wait a half hour instead of the posted hour and half that day.
Well holy Jesus - I went there today, and the only people allowed in were those with appointments! They let me in, went up to the best looking counter girl and out in less than ten minutes! The place was a ghost town, but open!
BTW - she was still a bitchy government employee.
marchplumber
Member
I was speaking of irrational fears.............unfounded, unsubstantiated, mass driven.........
NorthernRedneck
Well-known member
They don't do campgrounds when they're traveling. Dad's a 40+ year retired truck driver. Any truck stop or Walmart parking lot works for them. Their biggest concern is the border being closed when they get there.
So are you saying the whole corona virus response , shutting down schools, quarantine, restricting travel etc. is overblown, irrational panic etc.?
marchplumber
Member
No, nowhere did I say that.
tiredretired
The Old Salt
Yep. Won't be seeing many Qubers making the trip south this year I'll bet.
NorthernRedneck
Well-known member
That's what I thought too. No clear indication that if you're a Canadian stuck down in the states if they'll let you cross at the border. I imagine they'd allow you to return to your home country. The same goes for Americans stuck in Canada.
NorthernRedneck
Well-known member
Italy had 475 deaths in one day from the coronavirus. And they also saw the numbers rise by 4207 people infected in single day indicating that this isn't slowing down.
Our kids are struggling to understand. It's march break. They want to see their friends. They want to have sleepovers. My wife's children from her first marriage want to see their dad. Our foster daughter who we're in the process of adopting wants to see her grandpa and sisters. They just don't get the seriousness.
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Our kids are struggling to understand. It's march break. They want to see their friends. They want to have sleepovers. My wife's children from her first marriage want to see their dad. Our foster daughter who we're in the process of adopting wants to see her grandpa and sisters. They just don't get the seriousness.
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Jim_S
Gone But Not Forgotten
Our small town is taking precautions.
The banks have closed their lobbies, some of the restaurants are drive through only and my Doctor has canceled Office hours except for emergencies. I have a phone appt to discuss test results.
There are 95 reported cases in Texas with three deaths. One in Matagorda County SW of Houston, one in Collin County north of Dallas, and one in Tarrant County, Ft Worth.
We’re 100 miles from Ft Worth, maybe 120 from Dallas.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/03/18/third-texas-death-linked-new-coronavirus/
The banks have closed their lobbies, some of the restaurants are drive through only and my Doctor has canceled Office hours except for emergencies. I have a phone appt to discuss test results.
There are 95 reported cases in Texas with three deaths. One in Matagorda County SW of Houston, one in Collin County north of Dallas, and one in Tarrant County, Ft Worth.
We’re 100 miles from Ft Worth, maybe 120 from Dallas.
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/03/18/third-texas-death-linked-new-coronavirus/
Now governor DeWine is saying every business no matter how large or small need to take the temperature of all workers, before/upon starting a shift.
How is that going to happen?
How is that going to happen?
