Sex harassment payoffs dug up on Cain for Monday headlines

[joec]

Think book tour and higher speaking fees with perhaps another TV show in his future. He has not setup much in the way of state level support needed or seemed to have even given it much thought. Popular vote means nothing in this country as it comes down to the state levels which as I said he hasn't seemed to figure it out yet.

 

[pirate_girl]

He is very well favoured here in Ohio... and that's a good thing.
His rise here has been as they say, meteoric.

 

[joec]

Being popular doesn't mean they will come out to vote for him when it counts either. They need the local base to mobilize with the get out the vote crowd. He simply hasn't done much of this todate and the first primary is about a week away so it is kind of late. Remember Rudy Giuliani he was the odds on favorite by a lot at this time and didn't win a single state.

 

[Catavenger]

How about if they just go after his "9-9-9" plan instead?

 

[pirate_girl]

Live feed (today) from The National Press Club

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/31/herman-cain-live-at-the-national-press-club/

 

[FrancSevin]

Being popular doesn't mean they will come out to vote for him when it counts either. They need the local base to mobilize with the get out the vote crowd. He simply hasn't done much of this todate and the first primary is about a week away so it is kind of late. Remember Rudy Giuliani he was the odds on favorite by a lot at this time and didn't win a single state.[/quote]

Some of us have noticed that Herman Cain has done very little in the normal old and expected ways. I have yet to be able to connect that to a lack of being serious about the White House.

Seems to me at this point of the campaign, Cain's obvious position in the front negates any criticism about chances for success, when using his method of getting there.

Quote Joec ; "Think book tour and higher speaking fees with perhaps another TV show in his future. He has not setup much in the way of state level support needed or seemed to have even given it much thought. Popular vote means nothing in this country as it comes down to the state levels which as I said he hasn't seemed to figure it out yet. "
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As for the question of his seriousness,,,,,Are you frickin serious?

 

[tiredretired]

Being popular doesn't mean they will come out to vote for him when it counts either. They need the local base to mobilize with the get out the vote crowd. He simply hasn't done much of this todate and the first primary is about a week away so it is kind of late. Remember Rudy Giuliani he was the odds on favorite by a lot at this time and didn't win a single state.

Well Joe, it's now painfully obvious those on the left do not agree with you. They would not be attacking him so early if they though for one moment he was not a serious contender.

Yes I believe it is those on the left that are doing this. Romney & Perry would not be that stupid right now. The far left does not care how stupid they sound or look.

 

[joec]

Well Joe, it's now painfully obvious those on the left do not agree with you. They would not be attacking him so early if they though for one moment he was not a serious contender.

Yes I believe it is those on the left that are doing this. Romney & Perry would not be that stupid right now. The far left does not care how stupid they sound or look.

Actually I've not seen much on the left attacking him except on his 999 plan as the fact he knows nothing about foreign policy at all. Oh and to me the left doesn't really seem that worried about any of them running at this time for that matter.

 

[Melensdad]

Actually I've not seen much on the left attacking him except on his 999 plan as the fact he knows nothing about foreign policy at all. Oh and to me the left doesn't really seem that worried about any of them running at this time for that matter.

Just my take on this election but the candidates who know nothing at all about foreign policy include:

• Obama
• Romney
• Cain
• Santorum
• Bachmann

The candidates who know SOMETHING (but maybe not much) about foreign policy include:

• Perry
• Paul
• Huntsman (but I'm not sure if he is still in the race)

 

[joec]

Just my take on this election but the candidates who know nothing at all about foreign policy include:

• Obama
• Romney
• Cain
• Santorum
• Bachmann

The candidates who know SOMETHING (but maybe not much) about foreign policy include:

• Perry
• Paul
• Huntsman (but I'm not sure if he is still in the race)

Actually only two do know not only something but quite a bit. Huntsman and Newt a distant second but at least knows a bit more than the rest. I'm not sure about Paul but know what he wants won't work any more. Perry I seriously doubt he knows much about anything including his own state. Huntsman and Newt have zero chance as they are qualified and this is true of both parties when an incumbent is not running. The incumbent will always be a step ahead here unless they run against an acting secretary of state, head of the CIA etc.

 

[FrancSevin]

Just my take on this election but the candidates who know nothing at all about foreign policy include:

• Obama
• Romney
• Cain
• Santorum
• Bachmann

The candidates who know SOMETHING (but maybe not much) about foreign policy include:

• Perry
• Paul
• Huntsman (but I'm not sure if he is still in the race)

Ron Paul is a Xenophobe whilist Perry is a boistrus ill mannered Texan. Now, I know Texas is a whole nuther cuntrie, but his foriegn politicy experience is,,,,,, what?

Jon Huntsman is still in the race but eating everyones's dust. I think he may end up in the cabinet somewheres or reposted to China as Ambasador.

He is basically Romney Lite. White House is not in his future.

You have the other five well surmised.

For myself, I wonder why so many put any emphasis on forign policy matters in the next election cycle. Truely, foreign policy does matter, but right now most of the world would prefer to light their own wild fires. And I would guess most American voters would be just fine with that.

The next president needs to address matters here at home. Let him, or her, assign those other tasks to experts who can bring intelligent and measured advice to the White House.

We already have an Egomaniac Prez trying to do everything himself. Trying to prove to the world his, and only his, acedemic solutions will work. The US is so far, not doing so well with that.

I hope we get a candidate, and then a president, who will concentrate on the issues that effect Americans at home. One that will make us stronger, and prouder, and again the leader of the free world by example and strength.

Not Rhetoric and apolgies.

And end our anemic, narccisitict, capital sucking, spendthrift, economy.

Then, matters of foreign policy will matter.

 

[RedRocker]

Hey, what's wrong with boisterous ill mannered Texans?
Perry has shown the world what most conservative Texans
have know for some time, all hat, no cattle.

 

[FrancSevin]

Hey, what's wrong with boisterous ill mannered Texans?
Perry has shown the world what most conservative Texans
have know for some time, all hat, no cattle.

I like boisterous ill mannered Texans. I think they represent American values better than Prius driving limp wizards (or is that wimp lizards) from New England where we started.

But, I'm not sure it properly represents a good foreign policy.


Truth be told;
Diplomats have likely killed more of our Boys and girls than rough mannered politicians. So I could easily yield that position.



franc

 

[pirate_girl]

He was on "On The Record" with Greta tonight.
Just watched a bit of it toward the end.
I am beginning to feel somewhat strange about this entire deal.
Not saying I am losing faith in Herman Cain.. just sayin'..

 

[joec]

I did predict this as when there smoke there is usually a fire. I expect he will be down there with Bachman soon. The press regardless of what most think tend to tear down front runners if they can regardless of parties. Look at what they did to Hillary in 2008 elections. McCain in 2000 when running against Bush. The press regardless of which ones go for the shiny objects and party means little to them, they are all about the get. The turned on Bill Clinton also and they have on Obama, once you get to this level you are fair game for them.

 

[pirate_girl]

I did predict this as when there smoke there is usually a fire.

I am not saying I think he was actually guilty/involved or should be stomped on because of the interview with Greta.. it simply is putting another spin on the news at hand.
Looking back on Franc's post.. I do believe he shouldn't be going on every newsie show attempting to prove his not being involved, was possibly involved, maybe he was involved, but can't remember.
I do have a "heart on" for Herman Cain, but if these allegations prove to have some substance and blow up back in his face with proof and scandal, I will simply turn away from my support of him.
Hopefully, that won't happen.
I like the man a great deal.

 

[joec]

I am not saying I think he was actually guilty/involved or should be stomped on because of the interview with Greta.. it simply is putting another spin on the news at hand.
Looking back on Franc's post.. I do believe he shouldn't be going on every newsie show attempting to prove his not being involved, was possibly involved, maybe he was involved, but can't remember.
I do have a "heart on" for Herman Cain, but if these allegations prove to have some substance and blow up back in his face with proof and scandal, I will simply turn away from my support of him.
Hopefully, that won't happen.
I like the man a great deal.

I have come to realize the more one denies something like this the more likely they are to be guilty. Just my take and it doesn't say a lot about his dealing with problems or his business sense either. As he was told about the article 10 days prior to it being published as the author asked him for his side. It is my understanding that the authors of the article pretty much documented it an he declined to even ignoring it until the story broke.

That alone should knock him off any serious persons list for President of the United States. At the very least he would have one coherent explanation ready when asked but I've heard about 5 different statements from him today on various news shows. Now regardless of it being true or not it raises serious questions about his ability to deal with breaking situations.

 

[ki0ho]

I don't think it is all just the press...think he is giving the bummer heart burn...who IMO has had more than a free ride from the press.....or many even help in covering up
so we shal see.....

 

[RedRocker]

Personally I'd like to hear what he is accused of. It's pretty easy to say "you did a bad thing twenty years ago", now explain what happened! I think they're fishing, just like with Clarence Thomas, throw a little sex scandal in the mix to turn people off. Libs can't stand a conservative black man, it really fucks up their perception of what "Place" black folks are sposta occupy. You realize me saying to a woman at work that she looks nice today can be considered sexual harassment? I'll give Herman the benefit of the doubt, going back twenty years with some obscure accusation is pretty frikken weak as far as scandals go. Herman's biggest flaw is he's not hip to all this political blood letting, I personally like that trait in a man. We'll see, compared to John Edwards this accusation is fluff and nobody raised an eyebrow over that deal.

 

[Doc]

Cain beat Perry in Texas!

Cain beats Perry in Texas according to U of T Poll
Perry thought if he can make it in Texas he can make it anywhere. His first rude awakening was to find that presumption untrue.

But his latest realization must be an unimaginable humiliation, as a University of Texas Poll finds Cain opening a can of whip-ass on the Texas Governor in his home state.

When asked whom they would vote for if the 2012 Republican primary election for president were held today, 27 percent of respondents chose Cain. Perry received 26 percent support, followed by Ron Paul at 12 percent, Mitt Romney at 9 percent and Newt Gingrich at 8 percent. Eleven percent said they are undecided.

more: http://participle.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/cain-beats-perry-in-texas-according-to-u-of-t-poll/
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[JEV]

I am not saying I think he was actually guilty/involved or should be stomped on because of the interview with Greta.. it simply is putting another spin on the news at hand.
Looking back on Franc's post.. I do believe he shouldn't be going on every newsie show attempting to prove his not being involved, was possibly involved, maybe he was involved, but can't remember.
I do have a "heart on" for Herman Cain, but if these allegations prove to have some substance and blow up back in his face with proof and scandal, I will simply turn away from my support of him.
Hopefully, that won't happen.
I like the man a great deal.

Simply turn away your support of him??? Would you give up on a marriage that quickly? Show me the pure and pristine candidate, and I will show you Jesus Christ. Neither will happen. The problem in this country is tha everything and everyone is a throw away. One simple blemish and it's into the bin with you. Would you walk from your child if they did something that embarrassed you? Then why walk from Hermain Cain? Have you never sinned?

No wonder we are in the shape we are. We all seek the unattainable perfection in others, as thought somehow we ourselves are perfect. It would be laughable if it were not so pitiful.

 

[tiredretired]

As a contractor working at the local IBM manufacturing plant, we were oriented that looking a member of the opposite sex for longer than 1.5 seconds (IBM employee) was considered leering and subject to immediate removal from the site. Which would most likely have resulted in the loss of my job. Zero tolerance. Seriously here folks. No BS.

Someone determines that I exceeded that time limit I was toast. This is the society we live in today. Not saying this is the situation HC is in but I have to wonder just what the hell he did that is so serious that it could jeporadize his bid. Our society today has evolved into a bunch a wimps that cry about anything with the slightest provocation.

Give em hell Herman!! Let the wimps step aside and go away.

 

[tiredretired]

Have you never sinned?

Wasn't it Jesus that said "Let those without sin cast the first stone" Regardless of your religious beliefs those are good words to live by, my friends.

 

[Cowboy]

Personally I'd like to hear what he is accused of. It's pretty easy to say "you did a bad thing twenty years ago", now explain what happened! I think they're fishing, just like with Clarence Thomas, throw a little sex scandal in the mix to turn people off. Libs can't stand a conservative black man, it really fucks up their perception of what "Place" black folks are sposta occupy. You realize me saying to a woman at work that she looks nice today can be considered sexual harassment? I'll give Herman the benefit of the doubt, going back twenty years with some obscure accusation is pretty frikken weak as far as scandals go. Herman's biggest flaw is he's not hip to all this political blood letting, I personally like that trait in a man. We'll see, compared to John Edwards this accusation is fluff and nobody raised an eyebrow over that deal.

I agree allthough I dont personally think he owes anyone any explanation. Like you said it happened over 20 years ago , why wait this long to try to tarnish his reputation .

If it was that offensive I am sure he would have been brought up on some kind of charges, after all I dont think he was a polotition at the time where he could just sweep it under the rug. Its only an issue of importance if the voters want to keep beleiving all the crap fed to us by the media.

Times were different then and without knowing the story who's to say it wasn't even brought on by the accusers. Coarse Lord knows no women ever flirt or wear provocitive clothing to entice reactions of us poor ole perverts.

 

[pirate_girl]

Simply turn away your support of him??? Would you give up on a marriage that quickly? Show me the pure and pristine candidate, and I will show you Jesus Christ. Neither will happen. The problem in this country is tha everything and everyone is a throw away. One simple blemish and it's into the bin with you. Would you walk from your child if they did something that embarrassed you? Then why walk from Hermain Cain? Have you never sinned?

No wonder we are in the shape we are. We all seek the unattainable perfection in others, as thought somehow we ourselves are perfect. It would be laughable if it were not so pitiful.

Settle down Dough Boy, it's not quite that extreme..

 

[muleman]

Never did understand how something so long ago could have been so bad, yet was never brought to light till somebody got big money for telling it. When it all settles out you can bet somebody got paid for the dirty laundry.

 

[pirate_girl]

Let the digging continue.
I doubt "they" are going to find much more of anything to try to use against his character and judgement.

 

[joec]

The problem is we (as voters not me in particular) has set a standard for office that most can't live up too today. We see a lot of qualified people that won't do it as it has gotten like a Miss America beauty contest for many. Things like religion, private life and such really shouldn't play into it other than honesty and a willingness to tell the truth even if it hurts. As I stated from the start I could care less what they do in private as long as they do the job they are hired to do. But we no longer live in that world, we live in a world of judgments placed on every single thing a candidate does and often blown way out of proportion. There was a time when a presidents private life was private and the press refused to touch it.

 

[pirate_girl]

The thing, it seems.. that led to all of this was Mr. Cain making a gesture while standing close to a young woman, telling her that she was about the same height as his wife,as he demonstrated that with his hand open under his chin.

Oh my goodness, how rude and indecent!
/sarc off..