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Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry

Doc said:
Some good news. I pray it is accurate.
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Entire article here: https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

It might ask you to sign up but you can refuse and still see the article.
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So one of the charts really caught my eye.

Look the USA is very low on the list, and has barely surpassed China. WOW that looks like great news. Right?

But this is very misleading and could confuse people and lead them toward complacency. China has had a FAST moving virus among their population for 4+ months. We are just getting started here in the USA. But you look at this chart and think wow we are in great shape while Europe is burning down.

Very misleading. Very.
 

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Doc said:
Some good news. I pray it is accurate.
From a very long article with lots of charts and graphs. This was recommended to me by someone in the medical field.

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A low probability of catching COVID-19
The World Health Organization (“WHO”) released a study on how China responded to COVID-19. Currently, this study is one of the most exhaustive pieces published on how the virus spreads.
The results of their research show that COVID-19 doesn’t spread as easily as we first thought or the media had us believe (remember people abandoned their dogs out of fear of getting infected). According to their report if you come in contact with someone who tests positive for COVID-19 you have a 1–5% chance of catching it as well. The variability is large because the infection is based on the type of contact and how long.

The majority of viral infections come from prolonged exposures in confined spaces with other infected individuals. Person-to-person and surface contact is by far the most common cause. From the WHO report, “When a cluster of several infected people occurred in China, it was most often (78–85%) caused by an infection within the family by droplets and other carriers of infection in close contact with an infected person.
Entire article here: https://medium.com/six-four-six-nine/evidence-over-hysteria-covid-19-1b767def5894

It might ask you to sign up but you can refuse and still see the article.
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No offense Doc, but I gotta tell you, at this point, anything the WHO says is suspect. They are part of the UN and I would no more trust them with my life than I would a Democrat.

Stay the course people. We will get through this. We are Americans and that is what Americans do.
 
norscaner said:
Really folks listen to your leader ...its gonna be terrific...the best ever ...He has your health in his hands
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You know what, the guy is the president, not your Mommy.
He's just a man, and I'm guessing he's doing the best he can with what he has to work with.

If you could do better, you should sign up for the job.
 
Bannedjoe said:
You know what, the guy is the president, not your Mommy.
He's just a man, and I'm guessing he's doing the best he can with what he has to work with.

If you could do better, you should sign up for the job.
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What he said!!!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Thats the trouble now Joe, these snowflakes want a mommy to tuck them into bed each night and kiss em on the cheek and tell then its all rainbows and lollipops.

The whiners are not the ones that is going to get the job done. It's the doers.
 
After the initial buying panic our grocery got most everything restocked except TP. I can't figure why the people of our area, county population 7,000, can't seem to buy enough TP. What amazed me was I went to our vets yesterday to buy dog and cat food. Bought the last large bag of each and they said so far they can't get any more bags that size. I don't think the panic buying is crazy, it's absolutely stupid!!
Mike
 
mla2ofus said:
After the initial buying panic our grocery got most everything restocked except TP. I can't figure why the people of our area, county population 7,000, can't seem to buy enough TP. What amazed me was I went to our vets yesterday to buy dog and cat food. Bought the last large bag of each and they said so far they can't get any more bags that size. I don't think the panic buying is crazy, it's absolutely stupid!!
Mike
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Talking to a friend today on the phone and he told me there is a sign at the local Costco saying they will NOT accept returns on hoarded items. I assume they are referring to TP. :th_lmao::th_lmao:
 
TiredRetired said:
You stay safe PG. We have locally 6 health care workers at a nursing home test positive. Things are not getting better right now. Not a bit.

Positive attitudes right now are needed by all.
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Thanks dear, we're doing all we can.
Yes! Positive alllll the way.
:smile:
 
mla2ofus said:
After the initial buying panic our grocery got most everything restocked except TP. I can't figure why the people of our area, county population 7,000, can't seem to buy enough TP. What amazed me was I went to our vets yesterday to buy dog and cat food. Bought the last large bag of each and they said so far they can't get any more bags that size. I don't think the panic buying is crazy, it's absolutely stupid!!
Mike
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I think the toilet paper thing is stupid and way out of control.
Some of these people are just buying it like crazy because they know it's THE THING right now.
 
norscaner said:
Really folks listen to your leader ...its gonna be terrific...the best ever ...He has your health in his hands
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The president is attempting to calm a nation of people in hysterics and panic (well, some - not all).
I'm listening to the Ohio Department of Health and the governor and local leaders.
 
I took the backroad to the post office yesterday.
It's about 20 miles of sometimes/sometimes not maintained roads (each direction).
I saw these guys on it, I've heard they're edible too!:smile:
Though I don't think I could ever blast a wild Burro.
 

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I picked up a bottle of tylenol the other day when I was picking up some prescription meds for my daughter. It was the last one they had. We normally use ibuprofen.
 
Kind of amazing.
It wasn't all that long ago during another major crises/panic/scare that no one would go within 100 yards of a bottle of Tylenol.
And it's still unknown who was responsible that.
 
Bannedjoe said:
I took the backroad to the post office yesterday.
It's about 20 miles of sometimes/sometimes not maintained roads (each direction).
I saw these guys on it, I've heard they're edible too!:smile:
Though I don't think I could ever blast a wild Burro.
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Edible? Sure, but I'll bet the meat is tougher than a boiled owl. Of course in a SHTF situation boiled oil looks damn good, right? :th_lmao:
 
pirate_girl said:
I don't know if we touched upon this here or not.
Ibuprofen.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...e-coronavirus-make-symptoms-worse/ar-BB11pDKG
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And now the WHO, which initially agreed that we should not take Ibuprofen, says it is OK to take Ibuprofen.

So now it is apparently OK to take Ibuprofen, according to Columbia University and WHO.

https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Should-you-take-ibuprofen-if-you-have-COVID-19-15143646.php

WHO reverses advice on ibuprofen and COVID-19:
Should you take it?
WHO spokesman Christian Lindmeier said that while UN health experts are investigating the matter, “we recommend using rather paracetamol [acetaminophen], and do not use ibuprofen as a self-medication.”

But a day later, WHO reversed itself.

"Based on currently available information, WHO does not recommend against the use of ibuprofen,” the organization tweeted.

Angela L. Rasmussen, Ph.D, an associate research scientist at the Columbia University Mailman School of Public Health Center for Infection and Immunity, told Healio Primary Care that “there is no current evidence that ibuprofen specifically impacts COVID-19 disease severity.”​
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History Will Remember
 

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Or..

A nasal aspirate. This involves injecting saline solution into your nose, and then removing the sample with gentle suction.

A tracheal aspirate. A thin, lighted tube called a bronchoscope will be put down your mouth and into your lungs, where a sample will be collected.

A sputum test. Sputum is a thick mucus that’s coughed up from the lungs. If you have a mucousy cough, you may be asked to cough up sputum into a special cup, or a special swab may be used to take a sample from your nose.

A blood sample. This is just like a standard blood test: A healthcare professional will take a blood sample from a vein in your arm.
 
Melensdad said:
And now the WHO, which initially agreed that we should not take Ibuprofen, says it is OK to take Ibuprofen.

So now it is apparently OK to take Ibuprofen, according to Columbia University and WHO.

https://www.sfgate.com/science/article/Should-you-take-ibuprofen-if-you-have-COVID-19-15143646.php
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Thanks Bob.
There are a lot of suggestions/cautions right now on many things.
More recently the use of copper being a good thing, whether it be cooking utensils, supplements or anything at all copper.
If taking a supplement, make sure there is zinc to back it up.
Right now there is a study going on about the use of melatonin in the elderly, particularly touching upon how it has a positive impact on lung issues both in those who've had prior concerns as well as it being a protective factor.
 
The thing I've read and heard about ibuprofen is it's hard on the stomach and liver. whether it's fact or not I don't know. We've used acetaminifen(sp) for years and don't seem to suffer any ill effects.
Mike
 
People, just be careful, is all I ask, when it comes to the WHO. They are NOT our friends. Maybe at one time they were, but as part of the UN that hate our guts, they hate our beliefs and it would be very wise to take whatever they say with a grain of salt. If you choose to trust them, verify, in the words of Ronald Reagan. What does the CDC say about Tylenol v. Ibuprophen I wonder.

Case in point.

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A nasal aspirate. This involves injecting saline solution into your nose, and then removing the sample with gentle suction.

A tracheal aspirate. A thin, lighted tube called a bronchoscope will be put down your mouth and into your lungs, where a sample will be collected.

A sputum test. Sputum is a thick mucus that’s coughed up from the lungs. If you have a mucousy cough, you may be asked to cough up sputum into a special cup, or a special swab may be used to take a sample from your nose.

A blood sample. This is just like a standard blood test: A healthcare professional will take a blood sample from a vein in your arm.
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Thanks PG.
That explains the increased high demand for our Low Absorption 6MM swab.
We had no idea it was for nasal sampling.
 
Some things just do not seem to be adding up, people.

The US coronavirus mortality rate dipped to 1.25% on Sunday using deaths (396) divided by confirmed cases (38,167).

The mortality rate for the coronavirus in the US continues to fall as more and more Americans are being tested.

12 days ago the US coronavirus mortality rate was 4.06

Today the mortality rate is down to 1.25%!

4.06% March 8 (22 deaths of 541 cases)
3.69% March 9 (26 of 704)
3.01% March 10 (30 of 994)
2.95% March 11 (38 of 1,295)
2.52% March 12 (42 of 1,695)
2.27% March 13 (49 of 2,247)
1.93% March 14 (57 of 2,954)
1.84% March 15 (68 of 3,680)
1.6% March 17 (116 of 7,301)
1.4% March 19 (161 of 11,329)
1.25% March 20 (237 of 18,845)
01.25% March 22 (396 of 38,167)

But this number may actually be much lower.

Hospitals and urgent care clinics are turning potential COVID-19 victims away on a daily basis. We all now know someone who was told not to come in to be tested because officials were only concentrating on the seriously ill.

That means the current mortality rate is SIGNIFICANTLY lower if you factor in ALL OF THE CASES that are not being reported, and where people are not feeling sick enough to be tested.

That number could be 6-7 times higher than the current number of 38,167 as a recent study suggests.

That puts the coronavirus mortality rate in the US at 0.1% to 0.2%. This is similar number to a flu virus.
 
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