Out of curiosity, I checked his profile. Had to google "define advogado" and translate the result. As I guessed, that is spanish for lawyer. It is obvious he made his living defending spanish-speaking people.
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WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA?
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Out of curiosity, I checked his profile. Had to google "define advogado" and translate the result. As I guessed, that is spanish for lawyer. It is obvious he made his living defending spanish-speaking people.
REDDOGTWO
Unemployed Veg. Peddler
Bulldog1401
Anybody seen my marbles?
Could you try a little harder to insult him? If this is an example of your
prowess as a litigator, I'm not impressed.
Well said.
And he has proven "beyond a reasonable doubt, ladies and gentlemen" that a law degree doesn't always equal intelligence!!
paul webster
Banned
Actually this has become quite stupid, Advogado, is purtugese for Lawyer not spaish, and I am a retired criminal Lawyer for all your information, and NO, a illegal can not file a suit against you, its like force majur" so for you non believers here goes, they can file a Class action law suit only to have it dismissed faster than some of you can pull your trigger finger and execute them, I just believe in peoples rights to due process of law.... sorry guys the good OLD boys shoot and ask questuions later does not work with me, but if thats how you guys think its your RIGHT, I am just stating the facts no matter if either of us like them, maybe we all need to write our congressman/woman..... good day....
REDDOGTWO
Unemployed Veg. Peddler
Very interesting debate, it does not mean that we like it or that we like the way that our elected officials enforce our laws.
That is one of the problems in our country 300,000,000 people and each has an opinion on how things are run and they are all different.
That is one of the problems in our country 300,000,000 people and each has an opinion on how things are run and they are all different.
fogtender
Now a Published Author
No, there is one Constitution, and some peole read it differently or not at all, mostly the guys we elected to govern....
Deadly Sushi
The One, The Only, Sushi
Is this STILL going on? He is probably using your retorts to defend the damn illegals. 
What else can one say? Illegal is.... illegal. Hey If they can put a 20 year old kid in jail for having sex with a 16 year old.... one can only hope they can do something about illegals that are leaches on our tax money.
What else can one say? Illegal is.... illegal. Hey If they can put a 20 year old kid in jail for having sex with a 16 year old.... one can only hope they can do something about illegals that are leaches on our tax money.
paul webster
Banned
No I am not defending anyone, I am retired now, got tired of the BS, now I am just a fly fisherman.......but everyone has rights,its in our constitution, just a thought.....
Bobcat
Je Suis Charlie Hebdo
The U.S. Constitution gives every U.S. citizen rights, not foreigners. If you feel otherwise, you would have to accept that every resident of China, every tourist from another country, any foreign diplomat can come here and vote for president of the U.S. Maybe you're thinking of the Declaration of Independence which makes a more gerneral statement of human rights? 
paul webster
Banned
You raise a good point, BUT if they were trafficed in illegally by the coyotes for money,then they have right under a T visa, which raises your point again, illegal but they have rights ??? I am not confused, but maybe tired, but you have a valid point, I on the other hand believe We are a country of equal and non transpaent ideals, but that is another subject...
RedRocker
Active member
The U.S. Constitution gives every U.S. citizen rights, not foreigners. If you feel otherwise, you would have to accept that every resident of China, every tourist from another country, any foreign diplomat can come here and vote for president of the U.S. Maybe you're thinking of the Declaration of Independence which makes a more gerneral statement of human rights?
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Bobcat
Je Suis Charlie Hebdo
The mere act of entering the country illegally with the aid of a coyote does not merit a 'T non immigrant visa'. Human trafficking by force, fraud, or coercion must be involved (they didn't enter by choice). If you paid a coyote to take you across, then you are not eligible for the visa. The T visa was mainly created for victims of slavery and the sex trade.
Once a T visa is obtained, that still grants no rights under the Constitution. It merely allows a road to citizenship, and other than that, still not much different than a tourist visa and much less than a green card.
After an 11 month hiatus you return to to breathe new life into what must now be the longest running thread in FF history. The fly fishing must have been really good this year to have kept you from stirring the pot since January or perhaps this is just your cold weather pastime.
As a fly fisherman you have no doubt "played" many a fish until the point of exhaustion so that you could land it but rather than dispatching it and adding it to the creel, you obviously practice catch and release and are casting for the same fish again using the same bait.
It'll be interesting to see if the same fish do indeed bite again.
Oh, by the way, I think you're
Bobcat
Je Suis Charlie Hebdo
Hey, hasn't your green card expired yet?
They took it back when they gave me my citizenship papers and the right to apply for a US passport.
I'm one of the resentful minority who went through all the rigmarole to get a Resident Alien Card and then Citizenship and think that anyone who wants to live in this country, and who can blame them for that, should do the same thing.
paul webster
Banned
its to cold to fly fish here now SO I have to stir the pot alittle, but I did not resurrect this subject, someone else did and it came to my e-mail, But as long as we are on the subject here goes, I dont know what I would know about immigration, I only went to court for over 26years, no matter what you guys and I say, just wait until Obama gets in there, then you will see some serious reform for ALL the immigrants, and yes they do have rights here no matter what WE say, try to call I.C E, ( thats immigration and customs enforcement, you will get a voice mail saying your illegal immigrant report will be investigated within 90-120 days, its a joke 
I do agree with alot of you guys BUT, if they go to court for anything less than a Felony charge, sad but true, they are getting out, period....and if they are here for 10 years, its a automatic visa and a GREEN card, remember, we as citizens made the rules ............
I do agree with alot of you guys BUT, if they go to court for anything less than a Felony charge, sad but true, they are getting out, period....and if they are here for 10 years, its a automatic visa and a GREEN card, remember, we as citizens made the rules ............benspawpaw
New member
mr webster wanted a post about all the good the mexicans are dooing here,so here goes
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paul webster
Banned
I am not even going to comment on that last reply, it has no merit or substance to the topic...........
benspawpaw
New member
sure it does if you are not a mexican or a person that has been affected by all of them otherwise cry a tear for them. i wish we could ship them all back. we could leave room on the bus for anyone that wants to go. are you packed yet?
paul webster
Banned
I guess it makes sense to someone like you who propobly has a 3rd grade education, and cant hold a logical conversation, and if you care so much then write your congressman or woman,or call I.C.E, depends on what state you live in,and if you need help I would more than willing to do the draft pro bono, if you know what that means...... good day... but President elect Obama and his cabinet will have the last say, so we will just have to wait and see what happens.
benspawpaw
New member
you dont live here in ga where i am from and see it every day. people losing jobs and homes because companies will hire the illegals to work because they dont use their benefits like americans do and they will work for less. they use welfare and cost us taxpayers more each day. i live in the carpet capital of the world and even tho it says made in america, its made by mexicans who dont have a right to be here. like i said if you feel so strongly for them move your ass to mexico and take a load with you. and by the way i finished tha 12th grade but i didnt go to college but that doesnt make you any better than me!
Paul Webster, you really get your jollies off doing this, don't ya?????? It must be a lot like our Sushi and all his "hot chick" sites. Enjoy while you can.
"I did not resurrect this subject" ..... yes you did!!!!!
post #218 - Waybomb - 1/28/08
post #219 - Paul Webster - 12/26/08
I forgot, you're a lawyer (retired), nuff said.
"I did not resurrect this subject" ..... yes you did!!!!!
post #218 - Waybomb - 1/28/08
post #219 - Paul Webster - 12/26/08
I forgot, you're a lawyer (retired), nuff said.
benspawpaw
New member
i must say that i let him, (paul webster) get under my skin. while i most of the time would say a person like him is not worth the shit it would take to make him stink, so i will shut up about this.love all around
paul webster
Banned
Benspawpaw, you need to ACT, I mean you need to report these companies that are hiring the illegals to the proper authorities, you need to take pictures if possible and report them to ICE,and to your local state governing labor agency, immigration and custome enforcement, homeland security will take action on these companies, you need to look up the web site for your state and report it, if they are hiring the illegals the companies will be severely reprimanded and fined, if you want help, pm me, good luck
benspawpaw
New member
after being insulted about my level of education by you i would not trust you to feed my dog.sorry as we say in the south, you done pissed in your corn flakes.and by the way the law enforcement agencies know about the illegals, there are too many bleeding heart idiots there to do anything.
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paul webster
Banned
just remember one thing ben, you started with the shit comments and other personal comments,i reciprocated, law enforcement has nothing to do with this subject either, not the police, state police , FBI, DEA, highway patrol, none of these agencies care at all, YOU need to do 1 of 2 things,#1 take the bull by the horn ALL THE WAY and file complaints with I.C.E and homeland security against these carpet and textile companies,and put your old John Henry on it, or #2 quit crying the blues about me defending some of these people, I am retired now, I hope the next thing you are not going to tell me is to free Leonard Peltier also.......... so take ACTIONS and do it....
paul webster
Banned
ok good night
benspawpaw
New member
webster you are not worth my time anymore. i will not lower myself to your level anymore. to the rest of the ff family please forgive me for getting so upset but when someone like webster insults a person he can only take so much. if we had been face to face i doubt very much he would have kept on talking because these kind of people need to hide somewhere like the internet since they are so small
paul webster
Banned
I see you cant hold a debate over a issue that neither you or I will ever win, I dont need to hide from anyone I am right here if you wish to talk to me in person some time, the subject is always open.....