Leni
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I agree. I can't see Navy Seals using herion and overdosing on it. That just doesn't fit the image.
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The missing 777 jet .
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I agree. I can't see Navy Seals using herion and overdosing on it. That just doesn't fit the image.
Until they get some actual news of what happened to #370 I wish all the news media would just tone down all the theories and speculation. In the last 10 days I've seen an endless line of "experts" spouting their theories and speculation and I don't think I've seen the same one twice. Enough already!!
Mike
Mike
Here's some more Twilight Zone stuff:
http://mh370shadow.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-ELECTRONIC-WARFARE-and-radar-defence-company
This bird's end most likely didn't happen yet. A crash of almost any sort, including blowing up/burning up in the air would have reulted in plenty of floating debris that would have been found by now.
If everybody somehow died in the thing, and the plane all by itself did a Skully landing, it could have entually sunk with no debris/floatsum.
Other than that, something should have been found by now.
Is somebody weaponizing this bird?
Avoid 777s until they find this bird.
http://mh370shadow.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-ELECTRONIC-WARFARE-and-radar-defence-company
This bird's end most likely didn't happen yet. A crash of almost any sort, including blowing up/burning up in the air would have reulted in plenty of floating debris that would have been found by now.
If everybody somehow died in the thing, and the plane all by itself did a Skully landing, it could have entually sunk with no debris/floatsum.
Other than that, something should have been found by now.
Is somebody weaponizing this bird?
Avoid 777s until they find this bird.
bilbo
New member
An editorial in todays Dallas Morning news on a point that I had not thought of.....
As a professional pilot, I want to thank CNN for its nonstop lessons on how to hijack a 777. While discussing Flight 377, talking heads point out in depth exactly which switches should be turned off. They give lessons on how to program the computers and how to turn the aircraft.
You just cannot guess how the bad guys can use this material against us.
The true reason is that as long as they are giving hijack lessons, they can ignore the plethora of scandals that revolve around Obama.
Don't you just LOVE CNN?
As a professional pilot, I want to thank CNN for its nonstop lessons on how to hijack a 777. While discussing Flight 377, talking heads point out in depth exactly which switches should be turned off. They give lessons on how to program the computers and how to turn the aircraft.
You just cannot guess how the bad guys can use this material against us.
The true reason is that as long as they are giving hijack lessons, they can ignore the plethora of scandals that revolve around Obama.
Don't you just LOVE CNN?
http://mh370shadow.com/post/79838944...ing-sia68-sq68
This is one of Waybomb's posted links. I find it to be not only possible but probable as well. What better way to hide a plane than to tail another that has it's trasnponder on. I think this trick was used in a movie some time ago as well...
The plane the writer suggests, was fallowing a heading up towards certral Europe, and past many places that Flight 377 could have landed at. Not only that but the list of potential USA haters is quite high in that region of the world.
This link is IMHO worth the read if you have not yet.
Anyone see a real fault in this guys story and logic?? There maybe other motives, but this maybe how the plane actully disappeared.
Regards, Kirk
This is one of Waybomb's posted links. I find it to be not only possible but probable as well. What better way to hide a plane than to tail another that has it's trasnponder on. I think this trick was used in a movie some time ago as well...
The plane the writer suggests, was fallowing a heading up towards certral Europe, and past many places that Flight 377 could have landed at. Not only that but the list of potential USA haters is quite high in that region of the world.
This link is IMHO worth the read if you have not yet.
Anyone see a real fault in this guys story and logic?? There maybe other motives, but this maybe how the plane actully disappeared.
Regards, Kirk
Does anybody think they will change transponders in it or reprogram it to emit a different frequency? Then the pilot tells New York City it is from, say, Great Britain, fuels back up and heads for, say, Los Angeles. Then what. Bombs on Chicago, Omaha, Denver and so forth. Or a few EMP missiles.
Meanwhile, NSA is monitoring the Tea Party.
Meanwhile, NSA is monitoring the Tea Party.
I worked in aviation electronics years ago so my knowledge may be rusty.
The transponders are programmed based on communications between the aircraft and the people on the ground and is very common (changed once or more on every flight).
The aircraft announces itself to an area on the ground then the ground tells them what to "squalk". The "squalk" is a 4 digit number they're to code into their transponder then they're recognized in that airspace under that number.
There are reserved codes for military and to broadcast a duress call. E.g. if the pilot codes 7500 regardless of air traffic control directions on code, that means hijack. 7600 denotes aircraft radios have failed and 7700 is an emergency.
Oh hell, I'm rusty. More can be found on the internet. Here's an example.
http://quest.arc.nasa.gov/aero/virtual/demo/communication/youDecide/Transponder.html
British Airways was the first airline to take delivery of 777 jets. My brother in law was in the first group of pilots to fly the BA 777 jets and is the most senior BA 777 pilot. That makes him the most senior pilot flying 777 jets in the world.
When I chatted with him his thought is that the aircraft is on the bottom of the sea.
While he has not yet formulated a theory on why the aircraft is down there, that is his theory. It could be a cargo fire that exploded. It could be terrorism that cause it to explode. It could have been flown directly into the sea? ????????
When I chatted with him his thought is that the aircraft is on the bottom of the sea.
While he has not yet formulated a theory on why the aircraft is down there, that is his theory. It could be a cargo fire that exploded. It could be terrorism that cause it to explode. It could have been flown directly into the sea? ????????
I see. I pictured a transponder frequency as being unique to plane. Kinda like a license number on a car. If I'm understanding this correctly, a pilot can easily give a false identity.
Or in this case, no identity at all.
Right. But then put a different transponder in the plane or alter the frequency and paint the plane to make it look like it's from a different country. Then put bombs on it and...........
Dargo
Like a bad penny...
Ha, I found it!
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BigAl
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Leni
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Thank you Big Al.
I think that Joey knew all along that this is the way it would end up. He has not called us today. I'm sure that he will call in the next few days. We will do our best to console him but that will not be even the begining of what he and everyone else needs.
May God bless them and keep them. World without end.
I think that Joey knew all along that this is the way it would end up. He has not called us today. I'm sure that he will call in the next few days. We will do our best to console him but that will not be even the begining of what he and everyone else needs.
May God bless them and keep them. World without end.
Do you mean while it was in the air or the debris they're seeing now on the ocean surface?
I heard this question answered on the news a couple days ago and here's what I recall. Basically, it's in an area not looked at by the satellites. Normally there's nothing there so it's not in the satellites normal orbit or programmed imaging routines.
Both is what I question.
Thanks for the information but I do wonder if it is an excuse. I think they would want to know about aircraft and ship travel everywhere. Sorry for my thoughts on conspiracy, but I don't trust them one bit.
jimbo
Bronze Member
THE LATEST !!!! Supposenly it crashed in the ocean even thought they have no pieces of the crash to support this conclusion . I smell a cover up . Does this seem like a lame ass excuse to anyone else ?
Sounds like a lame ass excuse to me. Malaysian official gets up and states that plane crashed. Fails to include answers to a couple of basic questions like when, where, how, why, and who.
With over two weeks gone by and no data, not even a nut job group claiming responsibility, or someone offering to return the passengers for ransom, the chances are the plane did crash somewhere. We may never know.
The only way this bird is under water is that somehow it did a Skully landing with everybody aboard dead, and then sunk slowly, so there would be no floating debris.
Otherwise, there are over 200 floating seat bottoms, all sort of plastic, and all sorts of other stuff, floating out there. If it hasn't been found, the plane did scenario 1, or is on the ground somewhere. Maybe in pieces, or as an airworthy aircraft.
I don't buy that it's at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, just because.
Otherwise, there are over 200 floating seat bottoms, all sort of plastic, and all sorts of other stuff, floating out there. If it hasn't been found, the plane did scenario 1, or is on the ground somewhere. Maybe in pieces, or as an airworthy aircraft.
I don't buy that it's at the bottom of the Indian Ocean, just because.
Gunsrus
Active member
Well, I don't want to sound too pessimistic, but it sounds like an assassination of a group of people, or even maybe only one person and the others had to go because witnesses weren't wanted. 239 people is a stiff number. I'd like to believe there was more than one individual that this assassin, or band of assassins, wished to bump off.
Somewhere out there, Les Abend, a giga-hour pilot and a contributing writer to Flying Magazine kinda described his theory, which is similar to my Skully landing idea.
Somebody mentioned it to me this am, but heck if I can find it.
Started a small electrical issue, pilots donning O2 masks, fire getting worse, in the course of this, the pilots made the change to return to closest airport and set altitude at around 10,000.
Fire got worse, pilots ran out of air. Everybody dead in a plane on autopilot.
Plane over flew the emergency field, or maybe all the waypoints were not entered before the crew succumbed.
At 10,000 feet, fuel burn is much higher than at 350.
He thinks they are looking in the wrong place. Should be not as far away, and off fixed course.
As the plane runs low on fuel, an engine shuts down. The other engine is still on throttle, so the plane goes into a slow circular descent.
Finally, the other engine dies at a much lower altitude.
At this point, Les says the plane impacts, and there should be a debris field. But not like an impact straight down from 350.
Somebody mentioned it to me this am, but heck if I can find it.
Started a small electrical issue, pilots donning O2 masks, fire getting worse, in the course of this, the pilots made the change to return to closest airport and set altitude at around 10,000.
Fire got worse, pilots ran out of air. Everybody dead in a plane on autopilot.
Plane over flew the emergency field, or maybe all the waypoints were not entered before the crew succumbed.
At 10,000 feet, fuel burn is much higher than at 350.
He thinks they are looking in the wrong place. Should be not as far away, and off fixed course.
As the plane runs low on fuel, an engine shuts down. The other engine is still on throttle, so the plane goes into a slow circular descent.
Finally, the other engine dies at a much lower altitude.
At this point, Les says the plane impacts, and there should be a debris field. But not like an impact straight down from 350.