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The Jesus bed connection.

Learning God's Language

Destined to Language

Or

What's Unknown Becomes Important
Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
Commandments are advice as to behavior which promotes and maintains peace among men. They are rules that keep you on the good side of what God is doing. To understand what is meant, what is being said, when one reads or hears the words of the first and great commandment, you must interpret the correct definition for each of the words arranged, purposefully intending the inspiration of a specific thought. Only when you get the definitions correct, can you receive the intended thought. And your definition for the word "God" must agree with the definition the author of the statement had in mind.

People Are Different Approaches at Life by God.
Let's see how I would try for the meaning of the first and great commandment. And for the definition of the word "God", refer to the statement, " In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God". Word = God. The word was God. Man's relationship with "words" is his relationship with God. So let's see if this definition makes sense used in the statement. Thou shalt love the word with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Using this method of interpretation, the subject of the statement reveals itself as man's connection with language. That would make it similar in nature to the statement telling of God instructing Adam that he should name the animals. They become messages from wise men claiming to have noticed, that in God's creation,man's role has to do with words and language. A conscious access to the past and future has learned to be uniquely accomplished through the use of language. Books lose their intended value where their language cannot be understood.

Some have interpreted what Jesus referred to as the second, to mean, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". What would benefit others most, to do unto them? Teach them. To share with them through teaching. All of God's creations intrinsically teach of their creator. Mankind seems to have been asked by God to become progressively proficient in, and conscious of "teaching". For all the previous generations to share their thoughts with the present, requires the use of language. And to maintain language, requires teaching. Destiny has mankind becoming more and more a race of, a species of, teachers. Advice from those who have noticed this suggest that we except it as God's will. Each generation is asked to progress in its efforts towards teaching, allowing language to increase what it can offer. So it seems mankind is destined to developing his language skills, or get in trouble with God. But what gets taught and learned is unknown as of yet.

All knowing, probably requires all learning. And, might just be what God has each person, in each and every generation, helping him achieve.

Alan
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Alan, you have missed it again. The Word is referring to Jesus. The Word spoke in prophecy. If you will notice in the Scripture Word is capitalized.

" 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.
3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men."
 
Tractors4u said:
Alan, you have missed it again. The Word is referring to Jesus. The Word spoke in prophecy. If you will notice in the Scripture Word is capitalized.

" 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning.
3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men."
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I wonder if he will get it this time............doubt it!
 
alanejackson said:
Learning God's Language

Destined to Language

Or

What's Unknown Becomes Important

Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Ecclesiastes 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Commandments are advice as to behavior which promotes and maintains peace among men. They are rules that keep you on the good side of what God is doing. To understand what is meant, what is being said, when one reads or hears the words of the first and great commandment, you must interpret the correct definition for each of the words arranged, purposefully intending the inspiration of a specific thought. Only when you get the definitions correct, can you receive the intended thought. And your definition for the word "God" must agree with the definition the author of the statement had in mind.

People Are Different Approaches at Life by God.

Let's see how I would try for the meaning of the first and great commandment. And for the definition of the word "God", refer to the statement, " In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God". Word = God. The word was God. Man's relationship with "words" is his relationship with God. So let's see if this definition makes sense used in the statement. Thou shalt love the word with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. Using this method of interpretation, the subject of the statement reveals itself as man's connection with language. That would make it similar in nature to the statement telling of God instructing Adam that he should name the animals. They become messages from wise men claiming to have noticed, that in God's creation,man's role has to do with words and language. A conscious access to the past and future has learned to be uniquely accomplished through the use of language. Books lose their intended value where their language cannot be understood.

Some have interpreted what Jesus referred to as the second, to mean, "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". What would benefit others most, to do unto them? Teach them. To share with them through teaching. All of God's creations intrinsically teach of their creator. Mankind seems to have been asked by God to become progressively proficient in, and conscious of "teaching". For all the previous generations to share their thoughts with the present, requires the use of language. And to maintain language, requires teaching. Destiny has mankind becoming more and more a race of, a species of, teachers. Advice from those who have noticed this suggest that we except it as God's will. Each generation is asked to progress in its efforts towards teaching, allowing language to increase what it can offer. So it seems mankind is destined to developing his language skills, or get in trouble with God. But what gets taught and learned is unknown as of yet.

All knowing, probably requires all learning. And, might just be what God has each person, in each and every generation, helping him achieve.

Alan
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Ah, what tractor did you fall off of as a boy and hit your head? Not being mean, but you have no clue really about the Word. Sounds like some kind of cult teaching to me.
 
Tractors4u said:
Alan, you have missed it again.
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Or you have.

Matthew 19:16-22
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. 18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, 19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. 20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? 21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. 22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Jesus saw that this guy was just trying to kiss butt.

My studies indicate there is enough evidence documented in history associating Christians with the use of furniture, and from the study of vocabulary growth, to warrent our revaluation of preconceived interpretations. In other words, I have found some data strongly linking Jesus with the common man's usage of furniture as a health aide.

If fiction has played any part in our history, this record should tell of it. I think the Bible is one of our/mankind's best continuing efforts toward recording history. Sometimes, what we first categorized as fictional, becomes known as part of our reality through understanding and application. It is the perspective from which it is presented that invites skepticism. Over the years, those that have helped compile the information included in the Bible may have had a fictional perspective toward life after self analysis, but who doesn't. The facts are the important parts, the rest can be misleading, purposefully.
 
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Or you have.


My studies indicate there is enough evidence documented in history associating Christians with the use of furniture. - I have found some data strongly linking Jesus with the common man's usage of furniture as a health aide.
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Care to elaborate on this?
 
When History is Missing

To Progress Humanity

Or

A Position in Politics

There's a big piece of history missing in your memory if Jesus is famous for the bed, yet you're not aware of this information. Lacking this information in your decision process, keeps you in the dark, and your educated/uneducated guesses reflect this. How important is it to be aware of Henry Ford and his efforts, his reasoning behind making cars available to anyone, and everyone, equally? A theme in history, a course/directions recommended, you remain unaware of due to your lack of education. The reasoning behind Jesus's efforts toward getting everyone in the bed, should be causing you to make different decisions, choose representatives that think differently. The people around you during your daily activities would be behaving differently toward one another. There would be less of a caste system mentality pervading our society. People would be more prone to include the well-being of others as factors in their decision process. Because of what they had learned/experienced in their history, people would live and work more in harmony with each other.

Because we have become/are satisfied with a society which maintains and facilitates the progress of inequality/"the haves and have-nots", in order that we may become so, history has had to be hidden, especially the parts teaching sharing between all people. Subsequently, instead of some becoming "haves", and others becoming "have-nots", we've lost our link with humanity, history. With our media concerned only with making superstar politicians, the lessons offered by history just don't get the ratings, just won't sell today's products. Because the attention of today's generation has become solely focused on themselves, the really wise, who have been recorded in history, are not able to have their effect, as intended.

It's like going 2000 years in the future, and you look around and see temples everywhere in the name of Henry Ford, but no one that you speak with seems to know anything about the car. Too many people have traded their/our history for positions in political corporations. Rather than studying and learning, this generation has decided to play/depend on politics instead. In order to do this, those who have lived in the past must be robbed of their rightful position and influence, and so must those of the future. In order to see what we really look like, our mirror must reflect the past and future as well as the present.

Would free speech lead people to the truth? Would it have caused the people to choose Jesus rather than Barabbas?

John 18:40 Then cried they all again, saying, Not this man, but Barabbas. Now Barabbas was a robber.
Alan
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I still don't see any historical backing for your belief. Jesus was not sent here to build beds. He was sent to save souls. Which do you think is more important.
 
Tractors4u said:
I still don't see any historical backing for your belief.
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying there's a god like Zeus. What I'm saying is, the cause and effect of words, in our lives, is attributed to the god of Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, in the old writings.

What I have found, is that if you were to do historical research on the bed, and how we came to be using it, the accountings recorded in the New Testament then begin to make some sense, and can be found to be very helpful/useful in your quest for understanding. I'm talking history not religion.

John 11:1Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha. 2 (It was that Mary which anointed the Lord with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick.) 3 Therefore his sisters sent unto him, saying, Lord, behold, he whom thou lovest is sick. 4 When Jesus heard that, he said, This sickness is not unto death, but for the glory of God, that the Son of God might be glorified thereby.
 
I am finished playing with you. You are an amusing fellow and you would be a blast to hang out with at a frat party though. I have searched the internet for "Jesus Bed" and Alanejackson and it appears that you spend all and I mean all of your time posting this dribble to countless internet discussion forums and you cite no evidence what so ever to support your claims. If Jesus's mission was to get people off of the ground, don't you think the Bible would have put a little more ephasis on the subject instead of the salvation part? In each and every one of the forums that you have posted this, you still come back with your Henry Ford analogy and nothing else. Clear your mind, bring some supporting evidence to the table and maybe I will be intrigued enough to shoot your argument down again.
 
Tractors4u said:
I am finished playing with you. You are an amusing fellow and you would be a blast to hang out with at a frat party though.
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Brents have you found the "IGNORE" feature here on the Forums? :bonk: If you select it then none of the posts by the person you choose to ignore will ever show up on your screen. This thread has caused more people to use the ignore feature than all other threads by all other users combined.
 
The diary of Samuel Pepys 1667- 1669. I think the last name spelling may be off. It was a book on tape I got from the library. I recorded the part that tells of his brother passing out. In the diary Samuel describes the account as him "falling down all along the ground dead, which gave me a great fright." He meant not conscious.

When I tell people about my idea of the astronauts taking a magnetic field up in space with them. Some people say; you need to prove that. They start backpedaling because they begin to see the implications. Then I tell them about Jesus and the bed. And I asked them, how could I prove that, short of a time machine. Either you see it or you don't. I figure the ones that can't see it, will if they keep studying, seeking the truth.
 
Tractors4u said:
and you cite no evidence what so ever to support your claims. In each and every one of the forums that you have posted this, you still come back with your Henry Ford analogy and nothing else.
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alanejackson said:
:idea: This holiday, think and remember. 1. Before the word sleep became part of our vocabulary, the word dead was used, meaning not conscious. The word dead covered all the conditions for being found not conscious. People 2000 years ago, not yet having the word sleep, would have described what the carpenter Jesus was doing as raising the dead. With hindsight, through the study of history, we can now see and understand that Jesus was raising the sleeping, by giving them beds. 2. The manger, 3. praying before going to bed, 4. and the spread of furniture with Christianity, all points to Jesus being responsible mass utilization of the bed, 5. in the same way Henry Ford is famous for the automobile. Jesus was not first with the invention of the bed, but he was first to realize everyone needs to sleep up off the ground. In this way, Jesus gave us life more abundant, much more healthier.
Alan
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Mr 12:24 - Jesus answered and said to them, "Are you not therefore mistaken, because you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of God?
 
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A rose by any other name, is still a rose.
A word, no matter what the language, the meaning remains the same.

Each word in our/man's vocabulary had to have had a date when it was first used, right?

Our/Man's vocabulary started out with one word, when another was added, and words are still being added today, right?

That's the way each of us got our personal vocabulary, right?

The word dead was used in place of the word sleep, before the word sleep was a word in man's vocabulary, right.

The New Testament was written so that when I ask people, "who in history is famous for the Bed?", they will say "Jesus", right?


The scripture says people were dead, I agree. But if a person does not get the definition for the word "dead" right, he does not get the story right. His statements will then disagree with the true intentions of the scripture/Bible/author, and be recognized as misleading others astray.

The few literate people did have/use the word sleep. But many did not.
The word dead, when said a certain way, may have meant sleep. To change to using the word "sleep" instead of the word "dead", could have been like the US changing to the metric system.

What ever the many reasons, many people are using the word dead when a person is discribed as having been not conscious. It makes the stories confusing. But at the same time emphasizing/spot-lighting vocabulary growth. Something most people don't seem to take into account, when getting history from old writtings. Something a person must do to be correct.

I claim that in Mankind's vocabulary, as it has grown over the years, there was a time when the word sleep had not been introduced yet. And this is true for each word of mankind's vocabulary.

"Dead", was at one time, the one word used to discribe all the states of being not-conscious. And mankind's vocabulary was much less descriptive, especially the written word.

I am not saying Jesus was first with the word sleep, or with the bed. But that the New Testament has begun to present itself as an historical account of Jesus's efforts toward the mass-utilization of both the word sleep, and the bed. I think that from his studies of the Old Testament, Jesus learned this was important, and needed to be done/fulfilled.


The New Testament teaches that 2000 years ago many people still were not using the word sleep yet. And many didn't think the bed was every important. But if you were trying to heal someone, then as today, the energy lost into the ground while sleeping on it, prevented, can be the difference between life and death.
 
>"I claim you are crazy because not ONE historian agrees with you."

This is a joke, right? But you have to study instead, to be educated, and have any personal understanding.

"Where's Harrison Ford??? This must be Blade Runner." - Altered State

No-wonder you're not able to learn anything, you're pure/100% politics, and nothing else! It's because of people thinking the way you do, (thinking they don't have to study to be right, just follow the many/the masses), that every new truth discovered is delayed on its way to helping mankind.

Reading the Constitution has become like looking through Galileo's telescope a couple hundred years ago. And like confessing to be a follower of Jesus a couple thousand years ago. What the Pope and his political parrots would describe as anarchy, the U.S. Constitution prescribes as Liberty. Galileo was excommunicated, kept under house arrest in an effort to prevent him from actually educating his fellow man, because those that would see him in possession of the truth would realize all the priests were just kissing butt, not really educated, not really recognizing the truth.

Religion collects ignorant people into something like a herd, and then threatens individuals with a stampede. And because religion can also stampede people to the voting both, we have career politicians kissing the ring of religion. They are the walking dead, which have given up in the race for knowledge, and now grasp at what safety there is in numbers. Their faith in the promise of education has died. The time and effort once spent to maintain a state of learning, is always welcome by the religious group, then used to trample the truth.

An important lesson from the story of Galileo is that, if Galileo is right, then all the priests are just kissing butt. They were serving politics rather than the truth. Their authority arose due to their awareness of, and agreement with, the group's propaganda rather than the truth. This time, if I'm right, and when you learn about it, death takes a holiday.
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Another, from another forum;

>"Darwinian medicine?"

Where did that term come from? What have you been told it means, it stands for?

Now, what does it mean if Jesus is famous for the bed, and everyone learns it, as they should have from reading the New Testament? If I am right?

>"The bed is evolutionary medicine. People that do not compensate for the height of the trees suffer health problems due to sleeping on the ground. Some agree the term "hell" means "the grave". So, getting people using raised beds is how Jesus and his followers were keeping others from an early grave."

So, why have "Darwinian medicine", if Jesus already pointed it out and used the idea to heal us, and it's recorded in hishory?

Why is/has history being/been asked to repeat itself, if it is already recorded as having happened, in history books as well as our lives?

Could the people that tried to get Jesus out of the way, be still at it today?
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Another,

>"So fine, oppose him, but why accuse him of having a mental illness? "

Trying to make me look bad, will not change the facts of history. But maybe you think they can be kept hidden from others by killing the messenger/ the real reader of history? Is that why you non-readers claim real-readers are crazy? Is that why ignorant people group together and claim educated individuals are crazy?

Maybe this is the reason you're all now shown to be wrong?

>" As I mentioned before, my experience in college has been that paying customers are less apt to throw away their grades, thus leading to a better learning environment, one I'm more interested in being a part of."

Matthew 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Paying customers are less apt to throw away their disinformation that they paid for, and now are shown to have over-valued, when they should.

Paying customers are less apt to throw away their information they paid for, and become less likely to share, information, with others freely.

A tuff pill for some to take maybe, but think about it. Could get US right with God again.
 
This is great. :yum: :yum: :yum:

I haven't seen or heard shit like this since the '60's.

Personally, I think it's an LSD flashback. I wonder where he's been for the last 45 years. Just what the world needs ... one more guru.
 
"Didn't mean to, mate. Maybe tomorrow, we can try again."

Alas poor Alan I think not. I am about to use the ignore button to send you into limbo for another 45 years. I hope your drug induced sleep is long and peaceful and you awaken to a brighter tomorrow or at least one based in reality.
 
thcri said:
Bet you won't :poke: :yum:
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LOL!! you dang brat!!

Honestly, what IS the deal with this thread???? :smileywac
Ohhhhhh I'll read it, I won't have much input.
It's like a Kerouac, Ginsberg, Timothy Leary and Lenny Bruce casserole.
Can't make sense of any of it..
It just seems to go on and on ...Ad nauseam, with no end in sight lol
 
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