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Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry

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China doesn't want help from outsiders


https://www.foxnews.com/health/us-health-officials-on-coronavirus-outbreak
China spurned CDC offer to send team to help contain coronavirus: US Health Secretary
Madeline Farber23 hours ago

...

During a Tuesday news conference which included U.S. Health Secretary Alex Azar, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Robert Redfield, National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Disease (NCIRD) Director Nancy Messonnier, and National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) Director Anthony Fauci, officials said the outbreak is a "potentially very serious public health threat" in the U.S., but the current risk to Americans remains low. To date, there are five confirmed cases of the novel virus in the U.S.

Azar said the U.S. has made repeated offers to send a team of CDC officials to China to help with the outbreak response. The offer was first made on Jan. 6, he said, adding U.S. officials have continued to urge more transparency from the country as the disease spreads.
 

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Better get your water jugs ready ... https://www.thesun.co.uk/travel/10844438/coronavirus-desperate-passengers-plastic-bottles-helmets/

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British Airways also suspended commercial flights to China.
 

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Google is temporarily shutting down all China offices due to coronavirus outbreak
Including offices in mainland China, Hong Kong, and Taiwan.
 

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What is interesting is that this Quarantine started last week.

But only today we are seeing the flights cancelled. And reports are that some airlines are not cancelling flights into/out of these regions in China. And we know that some trains are running passengers into/out of the quarantine areas currently. And some airlines have announced FUTURE cancellations but are still flying into these areas.

So is it a QUARANTINE at all?


As of 9:50am ET today: Germany's Lufthansa and American Airlines are the latest airlines to suspend flights to China. American is cancelling flights from LAX to Shanghai and Beijing beginning Feb. 9 through late March. Other airlines that have cancelled some or all flights to China since earlier this morning include Air Canada, Lion Air, Seoul Air and a handful of others around the world.

Asiana Airlines Jeju Air Jin Air Co Finnair Oyj Lion Air Jetstar Airways’ Singapore Ops and Air Macau have also cancelled flights.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...s-all-flights-china-virus-spreads-middle-east
 

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So in addition to questioning if there is actually any actual quarantine we can now ask how many lies are coming out of the Chi-Coms :hammer:

Clearly the Chinese commies have caused this problem to explode by having an inefficient reporting system due to their communist layers. No doubt the Chi-Coms will also claim glory when this is finally resolved by claiming their central planning and massive crackdown on travel (which we also know is a lie) will have contained the contagion.

This seems to be closer to the information that I've been getting from some of my friends in other parts of the world.

Reporters Claim They Have Proof China Lying About Virus Death Toll

Update (1650ET): Several epidemiologists have suggested that many of the deaths caused by the coronavirus that surfaced in Wuhan last month have probably 'slipped through the cracks' - either having been misdiagnosed or deliberately attributed to something else. Many suspect that Beijing is concealing the true extent of the outbreak. And now, one reporter claims that a Chinese media organization has found proof.

The East Asia Correspondent for DW cited reports in a tweet claiming that health officials have been secretly moving some bodies directly from the hospital to the crematorium.


Also, one thing that #China is hiding is the number of death caused by the virus. Credible Chinese media outlet @initiumnews interviewed people working at local cremation centers, confirming that many dead bodies were sent directly from the hospitals to the cremation centers...


Also, one thing that #China is hiding is the number of death caused by the virus. Credible Chinese media outlet @initiumnews interviewed people working at local cremation centers, confirming that many dead bodies were sent directly from the hospitals to the cremation centers...


Meanwhile, research published in the Lancet, a medical journal, claimed the true mortality rate is closer to 11% (the official rate is 2%-3%).

If they're lying about the death toll, then it's likely they also know the true number of infections is much higher than the 'official' number. .
LINK =>https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...s-all-flights-china-virus-spreads-middle-east

The LANCET medical journal, which is showing 11% mortality, and various rates for serious complications. LINK => https://www.thelancet.com/pb-assets/Lancet/pdfs/S0140673620302117.pdf
 

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This whole thing is frightening for the people over there.
I pray it doesn't spread to other nearby countries or enter our country via the larger cities.
Right now, I truly believe it's controlled and will continue to be.
That might be too much positive thinking, but I think it's reaching the level of mass panic when it doesn't necessarily need to be.
 

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This whole thing is frightening for the people over there.
I pray it doesn't spread to other nearby countries or enter our country via the larger cities.
Right now, I truly believe it's controlled and will continue to be.
That might be too much positive thinking, but I think it's reaching the level of mass panic when it doesn't necessarily need to be.

Thailand has already admitted they can’t contain it.

I think it’s already out of control.

I pray that it is just not any more fatal than a normal seasonal flu strain. And unfortunately the seasonal flu actually kills a lot more people than most realize. China’s bureaucracy is the real killer/culprit.

We already seem to have human to human transmission of the disease.

There is no way this hasn’t been going on for a month longer than China claims.

Link — https://apnews.com/a980aeb44b3840341c674a6e67c19da6

Meanwhile, the World Health Organization’s emergencies chief said the few cases of human-to-human spread of the virus outside China — in Japan, Germany, Canada and Vietnam — were of “great concern” and were part of the reason the U.N. health agency’s director-general was reconvening a committee of experts on Thursday to assess whether the outbreak should be declared a global emergency.
 

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And the news this morning doesn't look any better.

Russia has now CLOSED its border with China. Both Russia and the Czech Republic were added to the list of nations that have halted granting Visas to Chinese citizens. An Italian cruise ship is docked and LOCKED DOWN in France with 2 sick and suspected of having the Kung Flu virus. Former leaders of the World Health Organization have criticized WHO for not calling this a global pandemic emergency a week ago.

Regarding the so-called quarantine, more proof that does not exist. The Philippines and Indonesia remain totally open to Chinese tourists/travel, and both of those nations also allow open travel to multiple destinations in North America, Australia, the Middle East, India and South America. Again, there is no real containment. There is no REAL quarantine in place.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...ip-due-virus-scare-russia-closes-border-china

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc...ho-declare-coronavirus-outbreak-international

“I believe that they had Sars-based responses, which is not adequate for this virus,” he said. “Probably when they realised the difference, there were already too many cases that originated from mild or asymptomatic cases.”

A new study by Chinese scientists has suggested the period between exposure to the coronavirus and symptoms could be as long as 5.2 days, and that it varied among patients.

The team studied the first 425 people infected with the new coronavirus, and their findings supported a 14-day observation period for people who might have been exposed to it, according to the research published in the New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday.

China’s National Health Commission on Sunday said the virus was contagious even in its incubation period, which lasted up to 14 days.

Amesh Adalja, a senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Centre for Health Security, said other countries needed to “scale up” their disease prevention efforts, and a WHO declaration could help to tackle the epidemic.

“At this point, a de facto emergency exists, however the declaration may mobilise more resources to combat the outbreak,”​
he said.​

and

-- Following several unconfirmed scares, India has confirmed its first case of the novel coronavirus. That means all three of the world's most populous countries have now confirmed at least one case of the virus.

And that list could soon expand. Brazil, the world's fifth most-populous country, reported three suspected cases yesterday. Malaysia has confirmed at least 8 cases. Reports that a Thai woman died of the virus on Kolkata were never confirmed.


-- Earlier, the White House said it had launched a task force that will meet daily to oversee the response to the coronavirus outreak that has resulted in at least five confirmed cases in the US, NBC reports. However, an expert who appeared on CNBC Thursday morning pointed out that the administration is a little behind the 8-ball.

If the administration wasn't so bogged down with impeachment, maybe Trump would have more time to focus on the virus response?


-- Update (0710ET): Airline employees are putting their feet down and demanding that their bosses halt flights to China, as more than a dozen airlines around the world have already done.

Air France cabin crew unions have demanded Air France stop flying to China, Reuters reports.

"Air France is monitoring the rapidly evolving situation in real time. The health and safety of its crew remain the absolute priority," said Air France-KLM.

We've heard whispers of employee discontent before. But expect to see more to forcefully object.

* * *

-- National health officials in Beijing announced a slew of new cases and virus-related deaths early Thursday morning (nearly 8,000 have been sickened, another 12,000 cases are suspected, and roughly 170 have died), but since then, things have been quiet.

If the recent past is any guide, this would suggest another dump of new cases and deaths is in the offing.

Three new cases were confirmed in Vietnam overnight. But in terms of news flow, most of the drama during the early hours of Thursday centered around Italy and Russia.

-- With the WHO set to reconvene its emergency committee in Geneva on Thursday for the third time in a week, experts are calling on the supra-national organization to label the outbreak a "public health emergency of international concern," or PHEIC - the official designation of a global pandemic.

The 16 independent experts on the WHO’s emergency committee will advise Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus on the decision and give recommendations for managing the outbreak. Earlier this week, Tedros met Chinese President Xi Jinping in Beijing earlier in the week to discuss the situation. Twice last week, the WHO decided to hold off on declaring a public health emergency, saying it was "too soon," according to the SCMP.

Hitoshi Oshitani, a former regional adviser on communicable disease surveillance and response at the WHO’s Western Pacific office, told the SCMP that there is an "imminent risk" of a dangerous global outbreak.

"I think the WHO should have declared a public health emergency of international concern earlier. They are supposed to declare PHEIC based on a risk of international spread. There was already significant risk of international spread one week ago," Oshitani said.

Oshitani added that controlling this new coronavirus is proving more difficult than suppressing the 2003 SARS outbreak, largely because the virus can spread via individuals who are infected, but exhibit few - or no - symptoms.

"For Sars, patients were infectious only when they developed very severe illness. But for this virus, patients are likely to be infectious even during the incubation period. If so, rapid isolation is not enough to contain the virus," he said.

SARS infected 8,000 people and killed 813 worldwide. The coronavirus outbreak has already surpassed SARS in terms of the number of cases in China. Globally, the virus has already effectively tied SARS for the number of confirmed cases, though if skeptical epidemiologists are correct, the true number of cases has already far surpassed the total for SARs.

A number of evacuation missions have been completed, as the US and Japan have flown citizens trapped in Wuhan to safety. However, Japanese officials discovered that several citizens on the flight were infected with the virus, leading to a mass quarantine. UK officials said that citizens evacuated from Wuhan must agree to spend two weeks in quarantine after returning to the UK.



-- About 6,000 passengers and crew aboard the cruise ship "Costa Smeralda," owned by the Carnival Corporation, have been confined to the vessel on Thursday amid new fears that two Chinese passengers are suspected of having coronavirus, reported Reuters.

Two Chinese tourists, traveling from Hong Hong and, originally, from Macau, have been placed in "isolation in separate rooms of the ship's sanitary space," said local media outlet, ANSA. ...

"The cabin of the Hong Kong couple on the ship has been isolated and they are closed there with the doctors. They told us that it is the woman who has a very high fever, while her husband is visiting him as a precaution. We arrived in the morning, returning from Palma de Mallorca. Of course, we are a bit worried. From the ship, apart from the doctors, no one goes down and no one goes up. Someone, who has only the flu, remained in the cabin. It is a vacation that risks ending like a nightmare, we hope to go down soon," a passenger of the ship told ANSA...

Reuters notes that all passengers have been confined to the ship as tests are underway to determine if the two Chinese tourists have coronavirus...

Now the cruise company has a difficult decision to make: those infected with coronavirus may not exhibit symptoms of the virus during the 7-10 day incubation period but can infect others at high rates. This means if the Chinese tourist test positive, they might have infected the entire ship. That many cases will likely overwhelm Italy's ability to rapidly respond.



-- Russia's newly appointed Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin on Thursday signed an order to close the country's border with the Far East to prevent the spread of coronavirus. Russia joins North Korea, becoming the second country to completely shutter its border with the world's second-largest economy. Although Russia hasn't provided details about the plan, Russia also border China, Japan and North Korea along the Far East.

Mishustin has also asked Deputy Prime Minister Tatyana Golikova to inform the population on a daily basis about the current situation and preventive measures, according to the Russian press.

Both Russia and the Czech Republic have decided to suspend the granting of visas to Chinese.



-- Meanwhile, villages and apartment complexes across China are "taking the fight against a deadly viral epidemic into their own hands," according to AFP.

Some areas are starting to look like something out of a sectarian conflict, complete with check points and makeshift barricades. Groups of locals have constructed makeshift barricades across access roads to keep potentially-infected strangers out.

In one residential compound in Beijing, "a motley stack of shared bicycles have been haphazardly woven together and wired to a wooden ladder, blocking a side gate and forcing visitors to register with guards at the main entrance."

With more than 50 million people still on lockdown, resentment against the ruling party has intensified, and more Chinese are speaking out on social media, according to the NYT: "We gave up our rights in exchange for protection," the user wrote. "But what kind of protection is it? Where will our long-lasting political apathy lead us?" That post was shared more than 7,000 times.
 

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The World Health Organization has declared a global health emergency.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/30/who-declares-china-coronavirus-a-global-health-emergency.html

WHO declares China coronavirus that’s killed 171 a global health emergency

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Published Thu, Jan 30 20202:43 PM ESTUpdated 7 min ago


The World Health Organization said the fast-spreading coronavirus that’s infected more than 8,200 across the world is a global health emergency — a rare designation that helps the international agency mobilize financial and political support to contain the outbreak.

The announcement comes just hours after the U.S. confirmed its first human-to-human transmission of the virus, which has killed at least 171 people in China and has now spread to at least 18 other countries.

Since emerging less than a month ago in Wuhan, China, the coronavirus has infected more people than the 2003 SARS epidemic, which sickened roughly 8,100 people across the globe over nine months. As of Thursday, there are at least eight cases in four countries, outside of China, of human-to-human transmission of the new coronavirus.
 

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I was just thinking... if you wanted to remove all the non native people from your country and didn't want it to seem like you were..... creating a deadly virus would do it, I've been reading about China and their recent purge of expats living there... seems a bit of a reach but then again... its China.
 

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There are several "Corona Viruses". It's a description of the viruses shape. SARS and MERS are 2 examples but there are also others of this type that just cause ordinary colds etc.

That's why the one that is in the news Now is called a 'Novel' Corona virus.
 

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There are several "Corona Viruses". It's a description of the viruses shape. SARS and MERS are 2 examples but there are also others of this type that just cause ordinary colds etc.

That's why the one that is in the news Now is called a 'Novel' Corona virus.

I noticed that the news changed from just the Corona Virus to the Novel Corona Virus over the last 36-48 hours. Thanks for the explanation.





Here in the USA surgical masks are in short supply as people stock up on masks. My brother, who is in the hospital supply business, says he cannot get enough masks for the local hospital chain that he works with because the supply line is facing shortages.

A quick check of HomeDepot.com and Amazon show their N95 dusk masks as either out of stock or dramatically over prices due to price gouging. N95 level masks were recommended by the CDC as appropriate. N95 masks are also used by construction workers who sand drywall, work with insulation, etc.



And now for the morning update. Turning to ZeroHedge for the summary => https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/uk-confirms-first-cases-coronavirus-countries-ignore-who
UK Confirms First Cases Of Coronavirus As Countries Ignore WHO
Summary:

  • UK confirms first two coronavirus cases after multiple scares
  • Confirmed cases in China rise to 9,692 from 7,700 a day earlier
  • Risk-off mood hits stocks
  • Impact of virus "not fully reflected" in rigged China PMI number
  • At least two-thirds of China's economy to stay shut.
  • Goldman disagrees with Ross, says virus blowback will wipe 0.4% off US GDP growth
  • 'The U.K. health department confirmed two cases of coronavirus in England on Friday, while the U.S. and Japan advised citizens to avoid traveling to China.
  • Hong Kong schools shuttered until March 2
  • Singapore closes borders to Chinese travelers, first southeast Asian nation to do so.
  • 43 airlines cancel flights to China
  • France successfully evacuates citizens
  • 1,000 suspected virus cases 'under observation' in India
* * *

Update (0650ET): India has only confirmed a single case of the virus, and the victim's condition is said to be improving, But the Guardian just noted that there are 1,000 people under observation in various parts of Kerala. 15 are in isolation wards in various hospitals.

Coronavirus: The confirmed cases around the world

Authorities were attempting to contact all the passengers who traveled on a flight from Kolkata to Cochin on Jan. 23 that the infected patient had been on, a day after she traveled from Beijing.

Meanwhile, earlier, Carrie Lam, Hong Kong's chief executive, offered some insight into the WHO's insistence that countries don't need to curtail travel to China, when she insisted that a complete border closure is "not the right answer."

* * *

For a few hours on Friday, the global community will turn away from obsessively following outbreak news to acknowledge the UK finally leaving the EU. But with US stocks on track to open in the red once again now that the first cases have been confirmed in the UK after multiple scares, all other news on Friday will be more or less irrelevant.

* * *

Though the WHO insisted that restricting travel to China during the outbreak simply wouldn't be necessary, airlines and governments continued to cancel flights and tighten border restrictions. American Airlines has acquiesced to the pilots union, which filed a lawsuit demanding that flights to China be cancelled, and cancelled two of its routes. According to Business Insider, 43 airlines - Lufthansa, British Air, United, American, Air Canada, Air Seoul, Air France, etc. - have cancelled some or all routes to China, with some of the cancellations stretching out until late March. Most have cited a drop in demand as the reason as passenger plane traffic has plummeted. Russia has closed its border, Italy has cancelled flights to China, while the US and Japan have implemented the most urgent travel warnings advising citizens not to travel to China. Other governments, including the UK, have warned against travel to Hubei.

* * *

Singapore has also closed its borders to all Chinese travelers, becoming the first southeast Asian country to do so.

The number of cases and the death toll haven't budged from late Thursday in New York, when we filed our last update. However, speculation about underreporting by the Chinese government has intensified in recent days. Though the total number of cases of the novel coroanvirus outbreak has already surpassed the total from the entire 2002-2003 SARS outbreak.

* * *

Research suggesting (though not confirming) that the virus can spread asymptomatically - meaning that individuals are contagious before they're even aware they have contracted the virus.

Roughly half of Chinese will stay home from work next week, and indefinitely until the virus is contained, according to local officials. This is tantamount to two-thirds of the economy - the second-largest economy in the world - virtually guaranteeing that knock-on impact to global growth will be severe.

* * *

Now to the big news on Friday: UK health officials have confirmed two cases of the virus in England. The victims are being treated at a hospital in Newcastle.

BREAKING: two cases of coronavirus being treated at Newcastle's infectious disease unit.
  • New Gov advice: anyone coming back from China with respiratory symptoms should self isolate for 14 days.
  • Anyone coming back from Wuhan, with symptoms or not, should self isolate for 14 days.

* * *

As Beijing scrambles to contain the outbreak, the contagion has spread to all 31 of mainland China’s provinces, municipalities and autonomous regions, and at least 19 other countries or territories. After confirming its first cases on Thursday and cancelling all flights to China, Italy has declared a state of emergency to last six months.



In some areas of China they are now using DRONES to spray disinfectant across cities to try to kill the virus. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/coronavirus-drone-army-deployed-spray-21399569

Does that mean the virus is now airborne?
Does that mean the virus can survive for long periods of time on hard surfaces?

The CDC says the virus can be transmitted in bodily fluids, and is much smaller than the droplets expelled by a cough but the droplets actually will be caught by a surgical mask, which is why there is a run on surgical masks. But now with China using drones to essentially spray cities with Lysol(?) one must ask how long the virus can exist on surfaces.

Coronavirus drone army deployed to spray disinfectant across China cities



China has deployed an army of drones to disperse disinfectant over villages and cities in the latest attempt to combat the spread of coronavirus.

Footage posted to social media in the coastal provinces of Jilin, Shandong and Zhejiang shows drones hovering in the air as disinfectant liquid is sprayed from their underside.

One of the objects is seen being led along a street by its operator behind, also spraying the liquid onto the ground. In the city of Heze, Shandong, one villager offered his personal drone which was able to disinfect an area of 16,000 square metres in a single morning.

It is not the first time authorities have been snapped spraying disinfectant, with images surfacing earlier this month of vehicles spreading the liquid. But it is thought the unmanned aerial vehicles are proving to be a much faster method of delivering public hygiene than traditional methods. Agricultural and police patrol drones have also been repurposed in China’s south-western Sichuan Province to release disinfectant in areas not otherwise easily accessible.

Crop protection officer Qin Chunhong, from the village of Longfu, Sichuan, reportedly disinfected his village on 30th January using his own drone.

He said: “Drones can cover a much wider area and achieve very good disease prevention results.

“As disinfectant is harmless to humans, it doesn’t affect anyone’s daily life.”
Full story at link => https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/coronavirus-drone-army-deployed-spray-21399569
 

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Yes, I know that.

Does Lysol kill the Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)?
Specific Lysol products have demonstrated effectiveness against viruses similar to 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) on hard, non-porous surfaces. In accordance with the EPA Viral Emerging Pathogen Policy, the following Lysol products can be used against 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV) when used in accordance with the directions for use.

https://www.lysol.com/healthy-home/understanding-coronavirus/
 

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As of yesterday morning, our own germaphobe President has put together a task force.
This from The Daily Mail.
Some comments are borderline smart ass, of course-- claiming the Donald has all the answers to save the world.
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Some quick info-graphics:
 

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OH CRAP! I read about how these types of things hit the young and old the most/worst. I just realized I'm old. I knew I was getting up there in years but never thought about diseases and such as I got older as I've always had a "well that doesn't affect me" mindset.
 

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Government orders quarantine of 195 evacuees from China due to coronavirus

by Kimberly Leonard | January 31, 2020 01:35 PM

The U.S. government has ordered a 14-day quarantine for the 195 passengers that were rushed out of Wuhan, China, to escape the spread of the coronavirus.

This is the first such decision to quarantine in the more than 50 years that the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has had such authorities. Officials said that it was the best way to keep people living in the U.S. from getting infected.

"We would rather be remembered for overreacting than under-reacting," Dr. Nancy Messonnier, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, said on a call with reporters Friday. The passengers were flown to a California military base on Wednesday and initially told they would face a delay of at least 72 hours.

The decision came as more than 9,800 people in China have been infected with the coronavirus and more than 200 have died. Officials are particularity concerned after a study published Friday in the Lancet showing that many people who have the virus aren't showing symptoms at all. That means the number of cases in China could be 10 times higher than estimated, and those people risk transmitting the virus to other people who would experience far more severe symptoms.

The passengers had been monitored before, during, and after they were flown to the U.S. They had been staying at the base voluntarily, though one tried to leave on Wednesday and was quarantined. Officials declined to provide more details about that person during Friday's press call.

Five people in the U.S. were infected with coronavirus after traveling to Wuhan, and a sixth got the infection from spouse. The U.S. told people not to travel to China at all after the World Health Organization declared a public health emergency over the virus on Thursday.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/government-orders-quarantine-of-195-evacuees-from-china
 

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So looks like all the major news media got this story wrong.

Looks like the governments reacted too late.

The predictions are pretty glum. The medical community is basically saying this is not contained and we are likely facing a worldwide pandemic in the making.

What they don't know is the mortality rate.

I would strongly suggest reading some of this report. => https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30260-9/fulltext
 

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Melensdad

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Feb 3 and its not under control.

Mortality rate of the typical seasonal flu was reported yesterday as 0.4
Mortality rate of the Novel Corona Virus, according to China is 2.0

In China they are burning now the bodies of those who have died, or who have suspected of dying, or who probably died rather than allowing traditional burial funerals.


TODAY SwissAir announced on Twitter: "Swiss flight LX15 from New York to Zurich reports a suspected coronavirus infection." The flight came from New York Airport JFK.

Zurich Airport has put a pandemic plan into effect, Swiss continues. Detailed information would follow. According to the airport website, flight LX15 landed in Zurich at 10:24 a.m. An Airbus A330 with the identification HB-JHG was in use. The flight also carried flight number UA 9715 in codeshare with United Airlines.

https://www.aerotelegraph.com/corona...g-aus-new-york

Yes we most likely just exported a case to the Swiss.


3rd Patient Tested For Coronavirus In New York As Pandemic Kills 362, With 17,388 Infected


Summary:

  • There are currently 17,388 confirmed cases worldwide according to the latest data out of China's CDC, and 362 global fatalities
  • Two confirmed cases have been reported in San Benito County in Northern California
  • (including the first death outside of China, reported in the Philippines).
  • China’s central bank will pump 150 billion yuan ($21.7 billion) into markets, and has banned short selling on Monday to prevent a sell-off.
  • First death outside China recorded in the Philippines
  • 24 countries reporting cases
  • Philippines, New Zealand join list of countries several restricting travelers from China
  • 36 French citizens evacuated from Wuhan show coronavirus symptoms.
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Update (2145ET): The potential coronavirus infection count in New York City has risen to three: that is how many people are currently being tested for coronavirus, according to the Health Department cited by ABC. The Health Department reports the patient has been hospitalized in New York Presbyterian-Queens, and is in stable condition.



As we reported yesterday, late on Saturday a person under 40 years old, who had spent time in mainland China, arrived in the city on Thursday and called 911 on Friday after feeling symptoms. Then, early on Sunday, a 60-year-old who displayed fever symptoms and shortness of breath was hospitalized at Flushing Hopsital Medical Center.

Officials say the patient being tested for coronavirus in New York City did everything right, and if that patient tests positive, the health department is ready to react.

"The symptoms were fever, cough and a runny nose. Like that simple. And they did the right thing for everybody else by coming in and getting care," said NYC Health Commissioner Oxiris Barbot, who added that an ambulance brought the patient to Bellevue Hospital.

Mayor Bill de Blasio said the patient did "exactly as they should have" by following the guidelines that New York City put out.

"Our radar's always set high, so we can screen these patients to stop it from affecting other people," said Patricia Tennill of Bellevue Hospital.

Officials report the testing will take 36-48 hours and depends on CDC testing capacity. The patient is currently stable.

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Update (1935ET): A second person is now under observation for coronavirus in New York City according to PIX11 News. The individual, hospitalized at Flushing Hospital Medical Center, is over 60 years old and is reportedly in stable condition.





And now we have new TSA guidelines with Homeland Security enforcing the rules.

No Chinese Nationals in most airports, they must be funneled through 7 major airports like Chicago, Atlanta, LAX, etc where supposedly they are prepared to deal with the virus infected travelers.

https://apnews.com/e0779ae774a9ef7c0dcd3baddbdcef1c

WASHINGTON (AP) — As the U.S. steps up its response to the coronavirus outbreak, the Department of Homeland Security is warning airline passengers that their flights may wind up rerouted if officials discover mid-flight that someone onboard has been in China in the last 14 days.

And Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said a “handful” of flights will be heading to China to bring Americans back home from Hubei Province, which is at the heart of the outbreak.

“The exact timing of those we’re still coordinating with the Chinese government,” Pompeo said at a news conference Monday in Tashkent, Uzbekistan. “We anticipate that they will happen in the next handful of days and we’ll return those American citizens.”

Pompeo said: “We may well end up bringing some citizens back from other countries as well. We’re working through the details on that.” And he said the U.S. may try to deliver some medical supplies to the region.

“We’re working closely and hand-in-hand with the Chinese government to try and resolve what is now this global epidemiological challenge, and so we’ll have more details exactly on when those flights will depart and when they return and how they’ll return to the United States before too long,” he said.

The DHS guidance on airline flights was included in a notice released by the department Sunday as new travel restrictions officially go into effect for flights commencing after 5 p.m. EDT.
 

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