Black Panthers want to arm every black man!

[tiredretired]

Which is not a bad idea in itself if they want to join the NRA / GOA or any other law abiding pro gun rights group.

However, I have this funny feeling that this is not what the Panthers have in mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILjuGNJ2YY

 

[FrancSevin]

After the war between the states the NRA tried to help arm blacks suffering under Jim Crow Regimes and the KKK. Today Eric Holder condemns the NR for it's pro-gun stance. I do not have to wonder how the uber left DOJ director feels about such initiatives by the Panthers

Can you say racism?.

 

[tiredretired]

After the war between the states the NRA tried to help arm blacks suffering under Jim Crow Regimes and the KKK. Today Eric Holder condemns the NR for it's pro-gun stance. I do not have to wonder how the uber left DOJ director feels about such initiatives by the Panthers

Can you say racism?.

You nailed the point of my OP. Exactly.

 

[Doc]

but ..... I'm afraid that would back fire on them. Blacks already kill more blacks than anyone else. Arming would help protect some for sure but in the long run we'd probably see more black on black crime and killings.

 

[mak2]

I beleive more responsible people being armed makes for a safer society. No matter what color they are. This thread is...interesting.

but ..... I'm afraid that would back fire on them. Blacks already kill more blacks than anyone else. Arming would help protect some for sure but in the long run we'd probably see more black on black crime and killings.

 

[Doc]

I beleive more responsible people being armed makes for a safer society. No matter what color they are. This thread is...interesting.

Dang Mak, I agree 100% with you on that. But how many irresponsible people that did not have guns prior to this would then have them and cause issues because they are irresponsible? the responsible people we would not hear much about since they would not cause any problems, maybe they would use their gun to save themselves or someone else from a thief, but we'd sure hear about the irresponsible ones. Probably on the news every night.

 

[Kane]

I beleive more responsible people being armed makes for a safer society. No matter what color they are. This thread is...interesting.

Yes, mak2, it is an interesting discussion. But your race baiting aside, don't you think, given the gangstas living the rap and hip hop lifestyle, that Doc's speculation may be true?

The amount of gunfire in black-on-black, low income, broken home gang environments may exceed expectation. The influence of gangs in lieu of fathers can be harsh, particularly as it relates to hand guns.

 

[mak2]

I just want to make sure I follow this line of reasoning. Are you saying there are not enough responsible adult black people for gun ownership to have a postive effect on crime in the neighborhood?

Dang Mak, I agree 100% with you on that. But how many irresponsible people that did not have guns prior to this would then have them and cause issues because they are irresponsible? the responsible people we would not hear much about since they would not cause any problems, maybe they would use their gun to save themselves or someone else from a thief, but we'd sure hear about the irresponsible ones. Probably on the news every night.

 

[mak2]

Do you think most blacks are ganstas? I think if we were talking about arming white people, you guys would be all for it, but since, you know, it's black people, well...

Yes, mak2, it is an interesting discussion. But don't you think, given the gangstas living the rap and hip hop lifestyle, that Doc's speculation may be true?

The amount of gunfire in black-on-black, low income, gang environments may exceed expectation. The influence of gangs in lieu of fathers can be harsh, particularly as it relates to hand guns.

 

[Kane]

Do you think most blacks are ganstas? I think if we were talking about arming white people, you guys would be all for it, but since, you know, it's black people, well...

Not quite. I'm saying there are more black gangstas than white gangstas. Kindly keep your race baiting to yourself.

 

[MrLiberty]

Dang Mak, I agree 100% with you on that. But how many irresponsible people that did not have guns prior to this would then have them and cause issues because they are irresponsible? the responsible people we would not hear much about since they would not cause any problems, maybe they would use their gun to save themselves or someone else from a thief, but we'd sure hear about the irresponsible ones. Probably on the news every night.

It's on the news every night any way, but mostly just local news, left wing national news ignores it because it would not be good for their fantasy narrative of whitey being the problem.

 

[mak2]

Yes, I'm saying there are more black gangstas than white gangstas. Kindly keep your race baiting to yourself.

 

[Kane]

Well, we see you come back with your usual grenade-throwing snark. If you honestly want to have a discussion, tell us why you feel there would be no difference between white-on-white gun crime and black-on-black gun crime.

Do you think statistics would support your snark?

Of course you'll be gone tomorrow, so no real reason to have an honest debate. See ya next time.

 

[mak2]

Actually I did. I said I think more responsible adults having firearms, wehter they be black or white, would ahve a postive effect on thier neighborhood. That doesnt make me a racist does it? Please explain...by the way, if it makes you feel anybetter I am never really gone, there just isnt enough posts for me to hang out here full time, and really, I dont have as much time as I used to to hang out anywhere as much. I have the equivilant of another full time job now days.

Well, we see you come back with your usual grenade-throwing snark. If you honestly want to have a discussion, tell us why you feel there would be no difference between white-on-white gun crime and black-on-black gun crime.

Do you think statistics would support your snark?

Of course you'll be gone tomorrow, so no real reason to have an honest debate. See ya next time.

 

[Kane]

Actually I did. I said I think more responsible adults having firearms, wehter they be black or white, would ahve a postive effect on thier neighborhood. That doesnt make me a racist does it? Please explain...by the way, if it makes you feel anybetter I am never really gone, there just isnt enough posts for me to hang out here full time, and really, I dont have as much time as I used to to hang out anywhere as much. I have the equivilant of another full time job now days.

Bullshit, mak2. Now you're running from your own snark.

You waltz in and suggest Doc is a racist, I am a racist, we're all racists for avering black-on-black crime would increase inexplicably in an environment where all blacks were required by the black panthers to own guns.

Stick to the topic and defend your assertions with specifics. Is our conjecture simply racism?

 

[Glink]

An armed society is a polite society. Raising the number of eligible gun owners, that want to own a gun, actually owning a gun would be a positive force in any demographic. Raising the number of armed good guys only makes sense; common sense is color blind.
This increases the opportunity for bad actors to act bad with extremely negative result for themselves. I would think this would have a suppressive effect on "wann be" bad actors who are still considering their lifestyle choices. I don't see how skin pigmentation would change the math here.

 

[Kane]

What if the White Panthers required every white person to own a gun. Would white-on-white gun crime rise inexplicably? Probably, since whites all carrying guns would generally congregate with other whites all carrying guns, just as blacks all carrying guns would generally congregate with other blacks all carrying guns.

Oh, that's right, mak2. I'm a racist for suggesting such a thing.

 

[mak2]

Now you are saying increaseing gun ownership in any area increases crime?

What if the White Panthers required every white person to own a gun. Would white-on-white gun crime rise inexplicably? Probably, since whites all carrying guns would generally congregate with whites other whites all carrying guns, just as blacks carrying guns would generally congregate with other blacks all carrying guns.

Oh, that's right, mak2. I'm a racist for suggesting such a thing.

 

[Kane]

Now you are saying increaseing gun ownership in any area increases crime?

Your reading comprehension is slipping, mak2. Yes, GUN crime would increase in any segment of society if GUN ownership was mandatory in that particular segment of society. As far as other crime, not at all; it would likely decrease because more good guys were armed. But the number of GUN related incidents? Obviously.

It's probably not wise for the Black Panthers to arm every black man.

But you know that, mak2. You're just trying to be snarky, as usual, without honest debate, calling all conservatives racists. See ya next time.

 

[mak2]

Did you just talk yourself in a complete circle? Whatever. Hey, do you guys remember Kennesaw? I am not going to bother searching it, but I bet there was no opposition to everyone in town being required to have at least one loaded firearm in thier home it that topic ever came up. Nope, cant imagine any oppistion at all on this forum.

Your reading comprehension is slipping, mak2. Yes, GUN crime would increase in any segment of society if GUN ownership was mandatory in that particular segment of society. As far as other crime, not at all; it would likely decrease because more good guys were armed. But the number of GUN related incidents? Obviously.

It's probably not wise for the Black Panthers to arm every black man.

But you know that, mak2. You're just trying to be snarky, as usual, without honest debate, calling all conservatives racists. See ya next time.

 

[MrLiberty]

Did you just talk yourself in a complete circle? Whatever. Hey, do you guys remember Kennesaw? I am not going to bother searching it, but I bet there was no opposition to everyone in town being required to have at least one loaded firearm in thier home it that topic ever came up. Nope, cant imagine any oppistion at all on this forum.

Now the whole forum is racist because we didn't bring up a town who wanted everyone armed. Man, you got the liberal talking points down pat don't you.

 

[Kane]

Did you just talk yourself in a complete circle? Whatever. Hey, do you guys remember Kennesaw? I am not going to bother searching it, but I bet there was no opposition to everyone in town being required to have at least one loaded firearm in thier home it that topic ever came up. Nope, cant imagine any oppistion at all on this forum.

Good Lord. No circling here, mak2, it just takes an unholy effort to keep engaged in honest debate in lieu of your usual drive-by invective. An unneccesary effort to keep you from your usual lock step liberal grenade-throwing drivel and FORCE you to think and type words for yourself.

We've heard all of your rerun liberal crap before. And we'll hear it again next time you drive by. No discussion or prepared intellectual debate; just stale off hand snark.

But, hey, by all means, let's have the Black Panthers arm every black man in the 'hood and see what happens. Should make for great tee vee. Sad statistics, but great tee vee. If it bleeds, it leads.

Of course it may not suit the liberal narrative. Just like now.

 

[Doc]

Dang Mak, I agree 100% with you on that. But how many irresponsible people that did not have guns prior to this would then have them and cause issues because they are irresponsible? the responsible people we would not hear much about since they would not cause any problems, maybe they would use their gun to save themselves or someone else from a thief, but we'd sure hear about the irresponsible ones. Probably on the news every night.

I just want to make sure I follow this line of reasoning. Are you saying there are not enough responsible adult black people for gun ownership to have a postive effect on crime in the neighborhood?

NO, that is not what I said at all. Read it again. I said we would hear more about the irresponsible ones because the news does not like to report when responsible folks save the day with a gun. You sure can twist words.

Did you just talk yourself in a complete circle? Whatever. Hey, do you guys remember Kennesaw? I am not going to bother searching it, but I bet there was no opposition to everyone in town being required to have at least one loaded firearm in thier home it that topic ever came up. Nope, cant imagine any oppistion at all on this forum.

Guess what, again, if this were law we would hear about the irresponsible ones ...race does not enter into it. Are you racist? Why twist this post into a racist one? The black panthers proposed this, does that make the suggestion racist since they only suggested guns for black folks. No one is saying that but you.

 

[tiredretired]

Which is not a bad idea in itself if they want to join the NRA / GOA or any other law abiding pro gun rights group.

However, I have this funny feeling that this is not what the Panthers have in mind.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vILjuGNJ2YY

After the war between the states the NRA tried to help arm blacks suffering under Jim Crow Regimes and the KKK. Today Eric Holder condemns the NR for it's pro-gun stance. I do not have to wonder how the uber left DOJ director feels about such initiatives by the Panthers

Can you say racism?.

So, for a minute, let's get back to the OP and the second post to the OP.

It is a great idea for all citizens of this country to be armed, regardless of their ethnicity or color. It is our God given divine right to do so. Period.

The question here is what is the motive of the scum bag NBPP in advocating it versus folks like us or the NRA to do so. Simple. The motives of the NBPP are very transparent. They want to arm all black people so that they can go and kill whitey, cops, jews or whomever the scum bags in charge decide is the enemy of the day. Pure and simple.

The NBPP is a dangerous, evil terrorist organization that is basically sanctioned, condoned and protected by this administration and it's lap dog AG, Holder. All complicit in wanting to start a race war in this country and set back race relations to their lowest point since reconstruction or worse. Why? Why do you think? Need I spell it out. It is very obvious. It is this administration that are the racists, for condoning and allowing such groups to exist and flourish in this society. Godwin's Law, aside, they are nothing more then Obama's brown shirts.

 

[leadarrows]

DGood Night Chesty, Wherever You Are

 

[EastTexFrank]

Knowing Mak he probably means Chesty Morgan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesty_Morgan

By the way Mak, she's in Florida somewhere.

 

[Kane]

So, for a minute, let's get back to the OP and the second post to the OP.

It is a great idea for all citizens of this country to be armed, regardless of their ethnicity or color. It is our God given divine right to do so. Period.

The question here is what is the motive of the scum bag NBPP in advocating it versus folks like us or the NRA to do so. Simple. The motives of the NBPP are very transparent. They want to arm all black people so that they can go and kill whitey, cops, jews or whomever the scum bags in charge decide is the enemy of the day. Pure and simple.

The NBPP is a dangerous, evil terrorist organization that is basically sanctioned, condoned and protected by this administration and it's lap dog AG, Holder. All complicit in wanting to start a race war in this country and set back race relations to their lowest point since reconstruction or worse. Why? Why do you think? Need I spell it out. It is very obvious. It is this administration that are the racists, for condoning and allowing such groups to exist and flourish in this society. Godwin's Law, aside, they are nothing more then Obama's brown shirts.

Your point is well taken, TR. And yes, it is obvious.

But we have to remember that the black anarchists have a propensity to soil their own nests, as evidenced once again and most recently by the burning of Ferguson. And I don't recall too many armed gangs of blacks traveling to the 'burbs to kill whitey. Actually, quite the opposite, given the sad stats of homicide in the hood.

So, TR, I'm sure your predicted outcome is what the NBPP admittedly might have in mind, but if the Panthers handed out new Glock 19's to every currently unarmed black man in America, should we be concerned or anticipate a different phenom?

 

[SShepherd]

any law abiding non-criminal citizen of this country should be able to own a firearm, innocent until proven guilty.

 

[mak2]

Thanks for that. One of the few men I can think of worthy of being a role model.

 

[Kane]

any law abiding non-criminal citizen of this country should be able to own a firearm, innocent until proven guilty.

Indeed. No one is challenging that position. We remain curious, tho, as to the impact to any specific segment of society if the Black Panthers would arm each and every black man. The Panthers are proposing to do this for some reason.

What do you think?