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How Prepared are you for disasters, outages, etc?

Melensdad

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Just curious, but we had some amazingly powerful storms roll through here on Father's Day that knocked out the power, felled trees, downed power & phone lines, and flooded over some of the roadways. . . so when those things happen, what are you prepared for? I know a lot of members here live in rural areas so I expect many of us may be 'more prepared' than the average suburban/city dweller.

We lost power about 2pm Sunday afternoon. I didn't bother rushing to turn on the generator because the temps were very comfortable, there was a good breeze and frankly there was no urgent 'need' to watch TV or do any other such things. A few hours later I did run the generator for a couple hours to run the 2 refrigerators and freezer, cook some food, etc. Flipped it back off after about 2 hours. Couple hours later turned it back on and we watched a DVD during the evening hours. I could have left it running all day but honestly saw no point in it, nor did I want to listen to it's rumble.

We have a good store of food, which comes in handy in the winter when the road gets closed for a couple days. No need for the food in mild weather as we can get to the store in a couple of days even when the roads flood over (never been flooded in for more than 48 hours.)

I am most concerned about winter preparedness because of the cold temperatures. It can be hot and miserable in the summer but it is dangerous when there is no heat in the winter. For winter we have a furnace that we power with our generator, plus 3 fireplaces should the furnace fail. The generator and furnace run on Natural Gas and in my 47 years we've never had a N.G. failure, but as a precaution, my generator is also capable of running on Propane and Gasoline and I typically have some of both on hand so I feel I could run the generator for at least 30 continuous hours on those fuels (although I would likely run for a few hours, then shut it down for a few, run for a few, down for a few . . . ).

As for food supplies, we don't stock up on survivalist food, but we do keep plenty of staples on hand, I think it is just our nature to do so. Not necessarily for emergencies but just because we keep the pantry and other areas full by habit. I suspect we could 'survive' for a few weeks without going to the store. So no long term stockpile, but still plenty considering the longest we've ever been cut off from the outside world is only 3 days. We had no problems surviving 8 days without power in the winter several years ago when temps reached -20(F) on the first 4 of those days and we were snowed in for the first 3 days, never needed to go to the store and the house was reasonably comfortable the entire time, no freezing pipes, no major grief.

We have no hurricanes here, but we do have tornadoes. I suspect that as long as we don't lose the whole house we'd be in pretty good shape if tornados came through and hit the area hard.

Are you prepared? For what? How prepared are you?
 
Wood stove, 5 KW generator, Guns with ammo, about a few months of staple foods and canned goods, more guns, spare gas (cycled out every few months so won't go "Stale"), private well to run off Generator.

In the process of installing a solar panel setup with battery bank for storage and inverter to run 110 AC stuff like satellite TV and Internet...lol
 
Like you, we keep our pantry well stocked. I have a gasoline generator set up to keep my well operating and run a couple of appliances. Haven't set up my propane furnace to operate off it, yet. The hard part is remembering to run the generator occasionally and to refresh the gasoline in storage.

The longest power outage we have had since moving here has been only a few hours, but the year before we moved a winter storm took out the power lines for about a week. If that happened now we might get a bit uncomfortable. Might wish we had more than 15 gallons of gas in storage.
 
Generator, Propane Stove, about a weeks worth of food before things would start to get really bland or the dog food starts to look good. I usually have around 100lbs-200lbs of dry dog food since I buy it in bulk to get the discount. I'd eat it if I had to.

We also live where it is never too hot or too cold that you couldn't survive by bundling up in the winter or gearing down in the summer. Lots of fresh water and wildlife around and even green stuff that could be eaten even in the winter.
 
We are very self sufficient at our remote mountain home. Normally we have an elk or portion thereof in the two freezers along with other meats and staples that can be frozen. The food would easily last 30+ days but the fresh items would be gone sooner such as milk. We have a 500 gallon gas tank on a stand and a 100 gallon diesel tank in the back of the diesel truck. Our house has two separate furnaces systems with micro volt thermostats that do not need electricity to function plus a wood stove. Two water wells are on our property and we have an 8KW generator to power the necessities if the electricity fails. Since we are already remote we must plan for the extended times we can not go to town. We run two separate satellite internet systems since last fall when one went down and was down for about three weeks. We could also step out the door most times of the year and put fresh meat on the table easily. Our nearest year round neighbor is 12 miles south of us. I think we are as prepared as we can be for a little isolation or interruption of normal services.
 
Well, we're not ready for Armageddon but we could get by for a month or so quite comfortably. We have natural gas cooktop so we can always cook. Besides there are 2 BBQ's and 20 gal of propane on hand. We live in Texas so the winter cold isn't too bad but we have a propane heater, kerosene heater and electric heaters that can run off the generator. We have 3 fridge/freezers and 2 freezers that are usually well stocked (one is the beer fridge). Have a smallish gas generator that will run 2/3 fridges at once as long as they don't all start at the same time. As soon as the power goes off, I fill a 55 gal plastic barrel with water and about 30 gals of drinking water in 5 gal containers because we usually lose water a few hours after the power goes. In my infinite wisdom I put a 240v, 3-phase pump in the well so I can't run it but there is always 50 gals or so in the tanks. We also have 2 x 60 gal hot water heaters in the basement. We also have emergency lights, camping gear and stuff just in case. I always keep 20 gals of fresh gas just for the generator, stabilize it and change it out regularly. If that runs out, there is always the gas in 3 vehicles. Failing all else, I have an inverter that will run off the diesel truck or the tractors and there is always 100 to 150 gallons of diesel on hand. I really need to get a PTO generator, just in case.

I'm not exactly paranoid but once when we had a houseful of people we lost power for three days and it got really difficult not being able to flush toilets etc. I swore that would never happen again. The longest we have ever lost power for was 4 days and since there was only myself and my wife, getting through it was a breeze. In fact it was kind of fun.

Oh, I forgot to mention we have a wood burning fireplace with blower that will heat the the living room and den quite comfortably.

Maybe I am paranoid!!!!!
 
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If we had a power loss, I could get by for abt a week. If it was a longterm situation, I would empty out here, and regress to the farm. At the farm, 6 months to a year if I can get the methane generator back up.
 
Food wise we could go for a long time as long as I had fuel for the generator to keep freezers going. We have more canned food as well. We could hold out for a year with the seeds we have on hand and would keep more from the next crop as needed. Heat systems do require the generator so fuel in winter would be critical. Always have at least 100 gallons of diesel on hand and about 20-30 of gasoline. We have a large propane tank so we would be good on cooking fuel for years. Water can always be found within 1/2 mile as we have a natural aquifer near the end of my lane that runs continuously.
 
Since my original reply I've picked up some stuff and reorganized things a little bit. Right now my answer would be that my wife and I could get by for a month quite comfortably. With adjustments and rationing we could get by for about three months but when relatives and friends start showing up ....
 
Thats really hard to say because any emergency situation differs so much & depends on what all you have lost .

That being said I beleive we are very well prepared for just about anything & could go at least a month safelly without feeling stressed or panicky , But we could get along many more months with what we have on hand , once again depending on the situation & what was lost . :wink:

We have 3 other buildings that could easily be made into living quarters that would be most comfortable to US if we were to lose the house say by fire , all are stocked with all the necesitys so nothing is kept all in one place as well as two underground storage areas , as well as a safe room in the basement that could hopefully withstand anything mother nature could throw at us .

We have both been through very tough times when we have had very little & learned to do without things most see as necesary so we both think a lot alike & perty much prepared for anything . In any situation where I feel our place might be in danger its understood that my wife will go into town & either stay at work where they have all of the necesitys for her to stay there & still be able to work or I will have her stay at a motel if her work has been eliminated .

This makes her safe & relieves me to just fend for myself which is a piece of cake for me because I dont need much & actually dont even have the need for power unless I,m needing to use equipment or tools which I have generators & gas or diesel powered tools for most of my needs & plenty of fuel to last quite awhile .

One of my biggest & most probable fears living in tornado alley , is of coarse being wiped out by a tornado to where we lost all above ground dwellings . But I beleive we or I could survive & have enough to rebuild without to much of an issue & we are heavily insured in case that happens .

So I feel like we are perty well prepared not only physiclly but mentally for just about any situation for any length of time . Unless of coarse things really go to shit & someone decides to do something really stupid & take whats not theirs or try to run us off of Our property . We more then likelly wont win the war but they will know they have been in one helluva fight :wink:
 
Thats really hard to say because any emergency situation differs so much & depends on what all you have lost .

That being said I beleive we are very well prepared for just about anything & could go at least a month safelly without feeling stressed or panicky , But we could get along many more months with what we have on hand , once again depending on the situation & what was lost . :wink:

We have 3 other buildings that could easily be made into living quarters that would be most comfortable to US if we were to lose the house say by fire , all are stocked with all the necesitys so nothing is kept all in one place as well as two underground storage areas , as well as a safe room in the basement that could hopefully withstand anything mother nature could throw at us .

We have both been through very tough times when we have had very little & learned to do without things most see as necesary so we both think a lot alike & perty much prepared for anything . In any situation where I feel our place might be in danger its understood that my wife will go into town & either stay at work where they have all of the necesitys for her to stay there & still be able to work or I will have her stay at a motel if her work has been eliminated .

This makes her safe & relieves me to just fend for myself which is a piece of cake for me because I dont need much & actually dont even have the need for power unless I,m needing to use equipment or tools which I have generators & gas or diesel powered tools for most of my needs & plenty of fuel to last quite awhile .

One of my biggest & most probable fears living in tornado alley , is of coarse being wiped out by a tornado to where we lost all above ground dwellings . But I beleive we or I could survive & have enough to rebuild without to much of an issue & we are heavily insured in case that happens .

So I feel like we are perty well prepared not only physiclly but mentally for just about any situation for any length of time . Unless of coarse things really go to shit & someone decides to do something really stupid & take whats not theirs or try to run us off of Our property . We more then likelly wont win the war but they will know they have been in one helluva fight :wink:

Good writeup, Cowboy. A testament to individual responsibility.

On the one hand, we can also learn something from the Occupy Wall Street crowds over the past couple months. If something truly were to happen in America, the social networks would prove to be invaluable in organizing the masses within our major urban areas. Just look how quickly the word spread thru the millions and millions of our young people today to 'come together'. What might happen if those communication networks are down remains to be seen.

On the other hand, we can rest assured that the vast majority of those seeking common comfort in the cities would be young impressionable liberals, supplied with nothing more than daddy's now worthless credit card, and collectively wandering the parks looking in vain for their government to give them more.

This is a test. This is only a test.

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Well after going through Hurricane Andrew and surviving I'm always prepared. I have two generators and enough dryer and can foods to last a year. Fresh water is readily available as we keep a enough on hand in bottles as well. As for floods and such it isn't a problem where I'm at now but was in Homestead when I was there. I'm probably on one of the highest sections in Lexington now with great drainage so not likely. My only fear is a rogue tornado due to all the metal roofs around my place. Tornado's seem to hate metal roofs.
 
According to Ironman's pyramid, we are set up for long term. Our weak link right now is the meds. I am working on that.

We can handle most anything including zombie attacks. I'll have to bring my wife more up to speed on reloading if I need to break out the rapid fire stuff. :smile:

A good thing to stock up on is Dinty More Stew. Long shelf life. Ain't gourmet but tastes better than dog food. :wink:
 
Tonight is Pretty scary! Bunch of Scary Munchkins running around. Begging for Candy....

Kinda odd....


:yum:
 
I believe we have made a start.

We have canned food and dried fruit for 6 months.

20 lbs of salt
100lbs of flour

Two generators one gas one diesel
one windmill generator
one solar array still being expanded.

Three 1800 amp hour 12 volt batteries and a large 12 volt industrial forklift battery.

More power than the 32 foot RV trailer needs unless the queen requires AC. The bumpout makes it roomy. I can install a real fireplace if required and with bedrooms at either end, my snoring won't keep the missus awake.

I have bought several thousand board feet of treated dimensional lumber. More than I need to build a fair house and barn. Paneling, window, doors fixtures and interior finishes. All stacked and stored.

The five springs on our property run clear and cold all year but are two to three hundred feet down the hill. I have solar powered pumps for that but am still working on the hoses and pipes. Last month a neighboring pipe company closed and the gave me 1250 feet of 2" black vinyl water pipe.

Our utility shed has all of these items including 12 volt water pumps and inverters to provide 110V at 5,000 watts continuos power so long as the wind blows and the sun shines.

We have 80 acre of woods, some of which is standing dead oaks from a wildfire. I have chainsaws but in the event of catastrophe, we have the Cross bow old buck saws and usual axes and other implements of destruction.

The place is covered in Blackberries and wild strawberry plants. Apple peach and pear trees go in next spring. We have a self seeding tomato plant that provides quarter sized fruits all summer and fall. More than two people can eat. What doesn't get eaten falls and grows anew next summer.

At least it has for the last 6 years.
An old cabbose style stove will provide crude heat and cooking if required.

A garden plot is in but needs a greehouse. That happens next summer. Heirloom seeds are in cold storage and replaced every year.
A bee hive for honey.

Next summer two Dexter cows for meat and milk. Our neighbor promise to loan me his bull.

Chickens for chigger control, breakfast and an occasional Sunday dinner.

10,000 rounds of ammo, mostly 12 ga and 410 for hunting the many deer, turkey and rabbits about.

The dozer is big enough to put in the fish pond next summer. Enough blue gill run the creek now to supplement rabbits and dove for the two of us. The water is cold enough for trout.

Yummy

A Honda four wheeler gets us about now.
An old 37 Ford 9N, which is immune to IMP, rounds out the work vehicles

Now for the real neccessities,

1,000 incadescent light bulbs, five cases@ 48 rolls each of TP, 5 fifths of medical scotch and one of drinkable quality in the event Barry doesn't get re-elected.

Cathy has suggested a large supply of dark chocolate in the event the world has truly ended. She doesn't mind dying just doesn't want to suffer.

I'm thinkin' on it.


franc
 
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You're in pretty good shape Franc.

Cathy has suggested a large supply of dark chocolate in the event the world has truly ended. She doesn't mind dying just doesn't want to suffer.

I'm thinkin' on it.
You better think pretty hard. Do you really want to go 20 years with a woman who doesn't have chocolate? Me neither.

Check this out. It's my bunker but the thread and pics are old.
http://www.forumsforums.com/3_9/showthread.php?t=66
I still feel "comfy" since I have this place in my relative back yard. It's much nicer now.
 
I suppose I am not really prepared at all, but I dare say I could manage if I had to. My cooking is with calor gas and I have several cylinders. I have a couple of generators and several batteries with the various vehicles, also accommodation in some of them; dog food is accumulated and she could share what is in my freezers so I think we could manage. We don't have earthquakes, hurricanes etc., just lots of rain and I am about seven hundred feet above sea level so I don't think flooding would be a problem either.
 
You're in pretty good shape Franc.


You better think pretty hard. Do you really want to go 20 years with a woman who doesn't have chocolate? Me neither.

Check this out. It's my bunker but the thread and pics are old.
http://www.forumsforums.com/3_9/showthread.php?t=66
I still feel "comfy" since I have this place in my relative back yard. It's much nicer now.
That's amazing. The copper and pipe would keep you inthe chips for years. Good as gold in a post collapse world.


We do have a small cave onthe property. 20 feet down and 30 feet long it would sustain us in a nuclear winter but not a direct blast. It has potable water and is fairly close to the fish stream.
An "A" frame tarped over the entry hole would make it inhabitable but,,,,,, raw rock isn't comfy and bears have been know to reside in it.

Hmmmmm.

franc
 
I suppose I am not really prepared at all, but I dare say I could manage if I had to. My cooking is with calor gas and I have several cylinders. I have a couple of generators and several batteries with the various vehicles, also accommodation in some of them; dog food is accumulated and she could share what is in my freezers so I think we could manage. We don't have earthquakes, hurricanes etc., just lots of rain and I am about seven hundred feet above sea level so I don't think flooding would be a problem either.

Anita if you flood then I think a guy named NOAH will be floating by in a great big wooden ship full of animals. Seems to me your elevation above the sea is not going to be an issue!!!
 
Franc, you seem pretty well set up or at least you're well on your way. Like zoomer said though, I give some serious consideration to the chocolate thing. :yum:

Me, I'm pretty much the same, only more so. More fuel (diesel and gas), an additional generator (Yamaha inverter type - quiet) to go with the 38 foot fifth wheel, a couple of additional deep cycle batteries and I've built up a 3 month buffer on medications. The end result is that we could still live fairly comfortably for 1 month and with compromises for an additional 2 months. After that we'd be scrambling a bit, especially for fuel. Not so much for diesel but gasoline for the generators would start to be a problem. I really need to pick up a natural gas or diesel (or PTO) generator sometime.

When it comes down to these sort of things we country folks do have certain advantages over the city types. A lot of the things that we need to be able to live and work in the country naturally makes it easier to get by in an emergency. I guess that we're just more self sufficient by necessity.
 
I do have an old canoe in the field, someone was going to burn it and, well, I had to rescue it so I suppose that would be handy if Noah was passing by!
 
One item we have not addressed is "laundry" OMG am I gonna miss fabric softener dryer sheets!:w00t2:

Better get to work on a plan here..

franc
 
Another thing we haven't addressed is money. Or, lacking good 'ol FRN's, another acceptable form of barter.

I would imagine that if SHTF the junk silver coins would be the most desirable commodity, thereafter moving to fractional gold and silver coins, and then on to chickens and bags of flour.

What's your plan?

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Another thing we haven't addressed is money. Or, lacking good 'ol FRN's, another acceptable form of barter.

I would imagine that if SHTF the junk silver coins would be the most desirable commodity, thereafter moving to fractional gold and silver coins, and then on to chickens and bags of flour.

What's your plan?

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Precious metals, as in lead,brass,copper. Lots of gunpowder, or the makings for it, sulfer,charcoal and saltpeter. If you have enough of that stockpiled you can perty much take anything else you might need . :whistling:
 
I agree with Cowboy here. Precious metals will have a different meaning if the SHTF. Right now Gold and silver are good insurance vehicles gainst a financial melt down. Assuming one is rich, this may seem primarily important.
But if civilization collapses metals of everyday use and common availability will become dear.

Lead, copper, brass, not so much, and implements of basic Iron and steel. Best have them or one willbe giving up their hoard of the, for now worthless, yellow stuff

As for currency exchange mediums, that is why I have TP and Light bulbs in great supply. Trust me, an ounce of gold won't by a burger or part of your neighbor's cow.

Every town will have an Old man Potter accumulating wealth on the suffering of others. He will gladly feed you family for a few days, if you give him your gold. Then what?

I'm willing to bet he'll gladly feed me for enough light to count his money and some TP to wipe is big @ss. Assuming I cannot feed myself.

That's where the Lead and Gunpowder come in.

franc
 
I have an acquaintance who has been collecting gold chains for years in preparation for TEOTWAWKI. As long as there is some semblance and structure of civilization left, he'll possibly be OK but franc is probably right, at the end of the day, toilet paper probably will be of more value as a trade good.

I'm not clear what value base metals such as lead, brass and copper would be except in the form of ammo. Can someone explain it to me? If I've missed something, I need to know.

You know, after 3 months or so things are likely to be pretty desperate for a lot of people. How many do you think have the ability to throw off the constraints of civilization and actually go out there and take what they think that they need. That also raises another point. Is it better to live off your stored goods for 3 months before you start pillaging your neighbors or do you start early in order to preserve what you've got?
 
I'm not clear what value base metals such as lead, brass and copper would be except in the form of ammo. Can someone explain it to me? If I've missed something, I need to know.
Nope you didn't miss nothing as far as I'm concerned Frank. like I said before if you got plenty of ammo you will be way ahead of those that value other things while they are still trying to take our freedom of the second ammendment. :doh: Those will be the first in need of protection as well as the ability to be able to supply their own meat. I'm sure they will be more then willing to share what they have. :whistling:
 
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