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WHAT IF 20 MILLION ILLEGAL ALIENS VACATED AMERICA?

paul webster said:
My only saving grace to all you sharp as a cue ball legal minds is this: I agree with all of you, you are all right and I must be wrong, hell lets just do this, lets start kickin them out, lets see, who should go first, I will I am a US citizen, but what the hell, my ancestors are of german history, so I must be illegal at some point in time.. So then letS go with the Italians, they all break the law, right, they must, they are all in the MOB, but LETS not take it on a Case by case basis that would be to easy, if they are from there they must be here illegally and must go, same as the Japanese, they must be Yakuza, no exceptions, then the Vietnamese, Chinese, koreans, All germans must be Nazis, and hell if there not remember we are making NO exceptionsn here, along with the POlish, greeks and ALL somalis and african people, doesnt matter that we brought them all here as slaves, kick them OUT, and finally the AMERICAN INDIANS, hmmm, what will we do with them, they must be Illegal, we STOLE THIS COUNTRY FROM THEM, SO THEY ARE NOW HERE ILLEGALLY,LETS SEND THEM TO, MEXICO, ITS HOT THERE........ I WISH I COULD ARGURE WITH SOME OF YOU IN A COURT OF LAW, IT WOULD BE FUNNY TO SEE A JUDGE TELL YOU YOU ARE IN CONTEMPT OR OVER RULED......
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What is so hard to comprehend about enforcing the laws of our country? I hear stories on the news about our ports not being secure, but hey, lets not worry about our borders. I love that elitist argument that we need them here to do our dirty jobs because those tasks are below us. You never answered my reply to your private message. What is wrong with me coming to live with you? I have the right to a better life and if I can obtain that from trespassing on to your property, that is my right.
 
paul webster said:
And while we are on the subject, what do you experts think should be done to the business who hires the illegal immigrants and look the other way because they can pay them less money than the law stipulates.......and take a job away from a U.S. citizen who they would by law have to pay more and pay the benefits of health care and Social security !!!!
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In my opinion that is how we can get the illegals under control. Any business who hires and illegal would be fined harshly. It should be the employers who have to verify the person is an American citizen. No proof no job. If this were put into action no illegals would want to live here for they would not have work. It would send a message to all, come in legally or don't come at all.
 
I cant argue legal vs illegal here, its not possible, but I havnt heard to many answers to my questions ??? about businesses hiring illegals..
 
paul webster said:
Ellis Island is where they put all the illegals who did not have papers, thats why the called them wops, ( with out ) :tiphat:
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I did not know that. It is funny that the term was only used for one nationality with out papers.

Maybe we should open up Ellis Island for that purpose again.
 
paul webster said:
I cant argue legal vs illegal here, its not possible, but I havnt heard to many answers to my questions ??? about businesses hiring illegals..
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I agree that hammering the businesses hard is part of the solution. Hammering the illegals is the other part.

You still haven't answered my question either. Are you polling your liberal friends for a snappy come back? :yum:
 
I think I will sign off this discussion, I just had a guy call me on the phone and threaten to break my knees for defending illegals, good luck to you guys in your business and personal affairs, Paul
 
paul webster said:
Ellis Island is where they put all the illegals who did not have papers, thats why they called them wops, ( with out papers ) :tiphat:
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Interesting that my father went through Ellis Island. He came here legally. He had papers. He is not Italian.
 
paul webster said:
I think I will sign off this discussion, I just had a guy call me on the phone and threaten to break my knees for defending illegals, good luck to you guys in your business and personal affairs, Paul
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Great way to back out of getting Your head handed to You in a debate :thumb:
Did the caller say "you'll sleep with the fishes " ?
You know Paul, there aren't any posters on here that I've been tempted to give negative points . But, You're pushing it. I certainly hope You change your posting style as to be less confrontational .
 
paul webster said:
I cant argue legal vs illegal here, its not possible, but I havnt heard to many answers to my questions ??? about businesses hiring illegals..
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PAUL - YES, I'M YELLING. You haven't answered a DAMN question I (publicly, or via PM) have asked you, nor that's been asked of you from other members but you insist on answers from us. TELL US WHY WE'RE WRONG FOR THINKING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS WRONG!!!

paul webster said:
I think I will sign off this discussion, I just had a guy call me on the phone and threaten to break my knees for defending illegals, good luck to you guys in your business and personal affairs, Paul
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IT WASN'T ME but I too am fed up with your BS about this issue. Hope you have a great life. SEE 'YA!!
 
Bump.

Just wanted to put back my signature line that got Paul so pissed off a couple weeks ago.

Hey Paul - Hope you enjoy it although I don't think so based on the PM's you've sent me.
 
bczoom said:
PAUL - YES, I'M YELLING. You haven't answered a DAMN question I (publicly, or via PM) have asked you, nor that's been asked of you from other members but you insist on answers from us. TELL US WHY WE'RE WRONG FOR THINKING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS WRONG!!!


IT WASN'T ME but I too am fed up with your BS about this issue. Hope you have a great life. SEE 'YA!!
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the point is this sir, illegal immigration is wrong, and is illegal, but the law is that if a person enters illegally, they have 90 days to leave or claim asslym..... period, end of story, or get a 10 year ban. unless they are granted some type of special circumstances visa, like a ( T ) visa, which means they were brought here against there own free will.
 
paul webster said:
but the law is that if a person enters illegally, they have 90 days to leave or claim asslym..... period, end of story
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COOL. We've got 100 illegals now taken care of.

Now, what do you propose we do with the other 19,999,900 of them?

You still haven't answered my question(s) about where you came from or whether you were an immigration attorney.

Give us an idea of where you're coming from. Why do you condone this activity? The BS about picking veggies and cleaning hotels doesn't cut it. You keep saying we don't understand. Explain it to us.

BTW, PS. I put my old signature line back in. You like it?
 
paul webster said:
I looked at Mcdonalds yesterday, and I looked at the fieds last august, when I was in Texas, and the fields in South Dakota in november when I was pheasant hunting, sure was alot of them helping in the corn fields with the combines !!!!
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So you're the ass hole that peppered me with bird shot while I was
pickn crops!! :wtf:
 
ok who did the favor. dont worry paul, your knees are safe, no one here would really do that, but we will deport your butt if you are illegal and not let you come back
 
paul webster said:
I am afraid that some of you are really not to well informed on immigration, this is the law, they can not come back if they leave, if they enter illegally, they have 90 days to exit, at which point they can go to the U.S counsul in there country and apply, and must get a waiver because they were already here, if they are caught in some other form of illegal activity, a felony only, they will be deported and will receive a 10 ( TEN YEAR BAN ) form our country.... either way if here longer than 90 days illegally its a 10 year ban..........
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You don't know much about immigration!

Why do they have to get caught to go back? So they can mooch some more and get a free ride?

No, they can go back anytime they want, using the same methods they used to get in - illegally cross the border. Simple.
 
Deadly Sushi said:
Paul Webster, there is reality and then there is law enforcement.
You are mixing the two, and possibly a tequila drink. :rolleyes:
Anyhow, no matter what you say, after the presidental election, we will be shipping back illegals, removing any money or freebies they are currently getting and hopefully removing the 'legal' status of their children born here (as legal citizens) as well.
You can pout and complain. Be my guest. They do NOT deserve to be in this country. They knew it. They took the risk.
Dont base an argument on what would happen if the illegals left. America will adjust and we will spend our money on OUR citizens.

Now, we just have to keep the hot chicks in the US. :thumb:
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Jeezuz K.h. Riste! Is that really you Sushi? Damn, you sound like a tough guy now! Oh, ya, for sure - the hot chicks part! Use some of that tough guy stuff on the chicks - they seem to dig it.
 
Ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
Great thread though.
Maybe an underlying issue that has escaped so far is that of entry level jobs for Americans. Born or legalized.
We have heard the mantra that 'no one else will do the work'. I submit that if the jobs were there, someone would do them. Even at minimum wage. Society has as a whole conditioned the younger populace (somehow) to 'have it all' and are not willing to work hard. Hell, I've been working for 30 years and still don't think I make what I deserve. Do I quit because of it? No. Why? Because I have some innate desire to be away from the government system and be a man.
Remember when minimum wage was $2.15? Less? Did we whine then or were we glad to get a paycheck?
 
This is a pretty tough group here, would someone care to comment about how the WHITE MAN STOLE THIS COUNTRY FROM THE AMERICAN INDIANS, AND WHERE WE SHOULD DEPORT THEM TO......
 
paul webster said:
This is a pretty tough group here, would someone care to comment about how the WHITE MAN STOLE THIS COUNTRY FROM THE AMERICAN INDIANS, AND WHERE WE SHOULD DEPORT THEM TO......
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Huh?

I didn't know they were here illegally, nor was I aware that they were taking the entry level jobs away from citizens. In fact I thought they were citizens. Hummph, I guess I just learned something. Who'd a thunk it but the American Indians are illegal aliens :pat:
 
We can back it up for millions of years if we want. Bottom line (at least in the US) is that 99.9999999999999% of us are immigrants.
Even the American Indians.
What is the most important, and all that we have control over, is the present.
And presently, there are an incredible amount of undocumented/illegal people living in the US.
 
paul webster said:
This is a pretty tough group here, would someone care to comment about how the WHITE MAN STOLE THIS COUNTRY FROM THE AMERICAN INDIANS, AND WHERE WE SHOULD DEPORT THEM TO......
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How old are you? How does this relate to illegal immigrants?

Did the Indians have anything resembling laws they could enforce? Apparently not.

Winning by war is quite different than what illegals are doing.
 
MR. Waybomb, The U.S. broke several treaties with the American Indians, but we are getting a little off the subject now, the fact is that the US has provisions for immigrants that enter illegally to become legal, it is very difficult I will be the first to admit, as to your question about my age, does it matter, no, but I will answer, 50,and the debate goes on, and on.........and I might add that you being from the state of Wisconsin, you have seen the Indians fight for there right to spear walleyes and use big nets, and the caucasians fight them, and the fights between the hmong and white hunters, tragic as it was.......so who really wins
 
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paul webster said:
MR. Waybomb, The U.S. broke several treaties with the American Indians, but we are getting a little off the subject now, the fact is that the US has provisions for immigrants that enter illegally to become legal, it is very difficult I will be the first to admit, as to your question about my age, does it matter, no, but I will answer, 50,and the debate goes on, and on.........
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Awe, it's just waybomb.

All countries break treaties. Again, being powerful and smart is a wonderful thing. The weak lose. So they can follow or get out of the way.

And like I said, the illegals can leave the same way they came. Then they can start the legal process.

No, they don't get to stay here while they are here illegally. Back over the Rio Grande, or through it, they should go....

And when they come back, they better be speaking English, and better assimilate.
 
waybomb said:
Awe, it's just waybomb.

All countries break treaties. Again, being powerful and smart is a wonderful thing. The weak lose. So they can follow or get out of the way.

And like I said, the illegals can leave the same way they came. Then they can start the legal process.

No, they don't get to stay here while they are here illegally. Back over the Rio Grande, or through it, they should go....

And when they come back, they better be speaking English, and better assimilate.
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you are saying all illegals are from mexico by your post, are you ?
 
20,000,000 is the estimated number of illegal Mexicans in the US, correct? If I am wrong, then, I stand corrected. I was under the asumption, based on the 20,000,000 number, this was about Mexicans.

But to your point, ANY illegal can certainly reverse what they've done to enter here by leaving whatever way they came.
 
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