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Is the President becoming clinically depressed?

Melensdad

Melensdad

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This is one of several media reports about President Obama "isolating" himself from his advisors and his cabinet. The first story I saw on this topic was nearly 2 weeks ago.

While I may not agree with the political and economic theories of this President, I certainly don't wish him ill health and certainly don't want to see him self-destruct while he is sitting in the position of being 'the most powerful man in the world,' which is what our nation's President really represents.

FULL STORY => http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/aimless_obama_walks_alone_OUgoMTkORRJioLl7B6ZYmN#ixzz1aPThzLAv
. . . The reports are not good, disturbing even. I have heard basically the same story four times in the last 10 days, and the people doing the talking are in New York and Washington and are spread across the political spectrum.
The gist is this: President Obama has become a lone wolf, a stranger to his own government. He talks mostly, and sometimes only, to friend and adviser Valerie Jarrett and to David Axelrod, his political strategist.
Everybody else, including members of his Cabinet, have little face time with him except for brief meetings that serve as photo ops. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton and Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner both have complained, according to people who have talked to them, that they are shut out of important decisions.

President Obama has become a lone wolf, a stranger to his own government.

The president’s workdays are said to end early, often at 4 p.m. He usually has dinner in the family residence with his wife and daughters, then retreats to a private office. One person said he takes a stack of briefing books. Others aren’t sure what he does.

If the reports are accurate, and I believe they are, they paint a picture of an isolated man trapped in a collapsing presidency. . .​
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Here is another fairly recent story: http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/obama-the-loner-president/2011/10/03/gIQAHFcSTL_story.html

This one (from last month) asks outright is Obama Depressed? http://atlantapost.com/2011/09/16/is-obama-depressed/

Here is a video from Sept 13 where a mixed (conservative & liberal) panel discuss Obama's possible depression: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/13/the_five_is_obama_depressed.html
 
I'd become depressed too if I were in such a position of power that I had no business being in, in the first place.
He's in way over his head with the world watching, with a weight on his shoulders now that must be staggering.
 
Imagine the problems he has to deal with on a daily basis, from daily briefings by his intelligence staff, world events and dealing with a dysfunctional congress. The job itself has to be the single most stressful job on the planet. If you look at photos of every person that has been President, you can see them age in front of your eyes. I'm actually surprised that he decided to run again, but then it has always surprised me than any of them would want a second term. They deal with problems most of us will never hear about at all, especially in regards to foreign affairs. Never mind the fact that every thing you do is taken a part by the media and know it all's like us here.
 
One of the articles says he doesn't even have daily briefings anymore.

Hillary Clinton has complained that she can't discuss issues with him. He stopped having briefings on the economy a couple months ago, that fact has been repeatedly reported. Tim Geitner also is reported in multiple sources as not being able to meet with the President.

As for the dysfunctional congress, that is mostly a self-created problem by the President. Harry Reid controls the Senate and can't even get a consensus from his own party. While Pelosi ran the House she got through only 1 piece of major legislation and that got her kicked out of power.
 
As for dysfunctional congress it has been that way now for a couple of decades but is getting worse.
 
joec said:
Imagine the problems he has to deal with on a daily basis, from daily briefings by his intelligence staff, world events and dealing with a dysfunctional congress. The job itself has to be the single most stressful job on the planet. If you look at photos of every person that has been President, you can see them age in front of your eyes. I'm actually surprised that he decided to run again, but then it has always surprised me than any of them would want a second term. They deal with problems most of us will never hear about at all, especially in regards to foreign affairs. Never mind the fact that every thing you do is taken a part by the media and know it all's like us here.
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It aint like he got everything dumped on him like most like to portray . He ran for the office and knew damn well what he was getting into and made empty promises he has not been able to keep to this day.

The one that pisses me off the most was his promise to make his administration the most transparent and keep the public informed of things BEFORE they were put into play. something he obviously never even intended to do from day one. :hammer:

Now since he knows he took on something he was never even qualifyed for he continues to drag the country in the sewers with him, And he still dont give a damn cuz he's to damn busy trying to get relected which is all he has done since he has been in power. :glare:

Now thats just my opinion, i dont give a damn WTF others did before him . :wink:
 
Well Cowboy it is time to get over it. I also believe the only ones that have a clue about what they are getting into are those that served as a vice president.

I never said anything about all the crap dumped on him. To be honest this goes with the job regardless when any president takes office. As I said simply look at their pictures compared to the day they took office and if you can't see them age then you can't see.

As for promises they all make many they never keep. I could make you a list starting with the first I remember but it would take a rather large book. But then you don't give a damn about history or those that became before, one of the major problems with most today.
 
joec said:
Well Cowboy it is time to get over it. I also believe the only ones that have a clue about what they are getting into are those that served as a vice president.

I never said anything about all the crap dumped on him. To be honest this goes with the job regardless when any president takes office. As I said simply look at their pictures compared to the day they took office and if you can't see them age then you can't see.

As for promises they all make many they never keep. I could make you a list starting with the first I remember but it would take a rather large book. But then you don't give a damn about history or those that became before, one of the major problems with most today.
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With all due respect Joe, I know far more about the history of our country, the presidencys and their administrations that our country was built on then you might think. And I am talking about from the very begining. :wink:

That is why I am far more pasionate about Obama, sure they all have made many empty promises in the past , there just has never been one in the history of the USA that has brought such shame to our country in such a short time as well as to this level. :glare:

Theres a huge difference between blowing smoke and flat out lying, which this administration continues to do on a daily basis . I dont need to compare pictures of past presidents nor does the fact that all presidents seem to age so quickly have a damn thing to do with Obama , he is a loose canon and I aint the only one that sees it. I just been stating it for over two years now and now others are starting to notice. :doh:
 
Obviously you have your mind made up that Obama is something different than those that served the last 4 decades. At any rate you are entitled to your opinion as I am.

But please in the future don't quote me, then interpret what I posted putting your twist on it. I sure wasn't making excuses for him I was simply stating historical fact. I am however getting a bit tired of the fact that regardless of what I write here some one twists it to say something I didn't say nor even emply.
 
joec said:
Obviously you have your mind made up that Obama is something different than those that served the last 4 decades. At any rate you are entitled to your opinion as I am.

But please in the future don't quote me, then interpret what I posted putting your twist on it. I sure wasn't making excuses for him I was simply stating historical fact. I am however getting a bit tired of the fact that regardless of what I write here some one twists it to say something I didn't say nor even emply.
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First off Joe , I am not trying to argue with you nor am I saying you are wrong anymore then I am saying I am right. Just expressing my opinion like everyone else . I quote you, not trying to twist your words but so anyone knows what post I am replying about.

I wish others would do it more often, it would save in some confusion I think as to what others are addressing because sometimes there are to many that refer to everything in general . I'm just picking on Obama at this time, I had my say about the crooks that held this same position when they were in office so I see no need in talking about something that there is no posible control over. Obamas still up for grabs though as long as he is still in office. :smile:

I know you know far more about global politics and have traveled more as well as seen things first hand, 99% more then I ever thought about. Thats why I tend to stay out of those types of discussions. I might have opinions but I really dont know that much about a lot of things going on elsewhere. :biggrin:
 
joec said:
Obviously you have your mind made up that Obama is something different than those that served the last 4 decades. At any rate you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
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I have definitely made up my mind that the Obamessiah is something different than the others that followed
Eisenhower. He had zero business experience, zero political experience*, zero military experience**, and zero
credibility. This is a combination of zeros that far outstrips the total of any other POTUS in my lifetime, which seems
to be coincident with yours. As others have said, he has managed to make James Earl Carter, Jr look good,
which I thought could not happen in my lifetime. He is without doubt (in my mind at least) the least prepared
and least competent man to be placed in that high office. He even makes William H. Harrison's 41 days look
brilliant by comparison!



*His time in the Illinois Senate set a record for the number of "present" votes he cast, thus avoiding committing himself
on such 'controversial' bills as one mandating teaching the concept of respect for others in public schools. His
time in the U.S. Senate was primarily spent running for President.

**Yes, very few candidates for the Presidency in the last couple of decades have had any relevant military experience. I
mention it here simply as a part of his total lack of preparation and experience for the job.

 
I don't disagree with you Sailor at all, hence I didn't vote for him. I personally think we could of done better if some others from the democratic had won. I think McCain would of been worse. Again that is my peronal opinion and I didn't vote for him either. Those where my choice and I chose not to vote for either though I did vote for other offices on that ballot.

My problem is if I post an opinion as I did above with bold text, underlined and italic, I get blasted to prove it. Well I could ask those that say things like he is a socialist, doesn't have the best interest of the US at heart, or is a Muslim then I say prove it. Well guess what they can't prove it just give more opinion based on some body else saying it.

So basically every word posted here is nothing more than opinion unless I post it then it is up to me to prove it. Now to make this perfectly clear, I'm not speaking of posts like City Girl posts where she post something someone else wrote and expecting a response either pro or con and I also like those post also as they tend to make one think.
 
This also showed up in an insider report the other day. They swear he does not use the oval office and instead hides out upstairs in his informal office with a big screen tv and runs around in sandals and shorts. He does not like seeing anyone unless he is forced to make an appearance.
 
As one of the rogues, I advise wearing a heavy coat of callouses to post an opinion around here. Sometimes it's fun to just stir the pot.

FWIW (not surprisingly), I agree with Cowboy and Danang Sailor. Obama is/was ill prepared for the job he holds. My wife could make better decisions (even during menopause) and is as honest as the day is long. JUST SAYING...
 
I'd be depressed to if i had Hillary trying to get at me to talk in the oval office look at what the last democrat used that office for.
 
Melensdad said:
This is one of several media reports about President Obama "isolating" himself from his advisors and his cabinet. The first story I saw on this topic was nearly 2 weeks ago. l
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I'd say boo hoo.

The usurper has had the ultimate freedom to run or not.

He has been the leader of the free world and has failed on every level.

Holder is in the meatgrinder until resignation, nobody wants to replace him because the real target is Obama.

The left wings' idiotic revolutionary chaos is set to march from "Occupy WS" this week across the country.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FsZECfIGGeA
 
Sorry, got it by Googling mentally ill presidents. Several sites, all pretty much referring to the same study.
 
Ok.. I found these-
From Yahoo Answers:

Evidently some researchers at Duke University Medical Center did a psychiatric inventory of the presidency. Here are their findings;

James Madison, John Quincy Adams, Rutherford B. Hayes, James Garfield, Franklin Pierce, and Dwight D. Eisenhower - major depressive disorders

Theodore Roosevelt and Lyndon Johnson - bipolar.

Woodrow Wilson - generalized anxiety disorder

Thomas Jefferson, Calvin Coolidge – social phobia

Ulysses S. Grant, Franklin Pierce, and Richard Nixon – alcohol abuse :confused:

Ronald Reagan – Alzheimer’s disease (I think it became apparent toward the end of his second term, although one of his sons swears it was showing signs during the first).
Some of the conclusions the researchers draw:
presidents are more vulnerable and less perfect than we sometimes think people with mental illness can be highly functional and highly successful; and, because the presidents suffer rates of mental illness roughly comparable to the general public, it reminds us that mental illness, especially depression, is more widespread than we sometimes acknowledge. So I guess they’re not much different from the general population in terms of their mental health. In modern times, I think you have to be a little bit "off the scale" and exceedingly driven to endure the election process and the challenges that come with the job anyway. It’s not for the faint of heart!

Here is a link to a news article about the study:
http://www.nysun.com/opinion/presidentia…
 
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