Is this the poster that called me crazy?
That made me feel so pretty pretty
http://www.funonthenet.in/content/view/219/31/ click on the green in the video box.
PG & JPR go get her & bring her back I like being pretty
Huh?
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Huh?
God damn, you're gone all day and come back to this?
Did she leave or what?
Did someone find out she was a sham?
Please enlighten me someone.
Did she leave or what?
Did someone find out she was a sham?
Please enlighten me someone.
So no one's going to say anything more?
Thanks for all the posts downing her.. and for running HER off..
What a hot mess of peaches we've got here.
Thanks for all the posts downing her.. and for running HER off..
What a hot mess of peaches we've got here.
Nobody ran her of lollie. And she gave plenty of crap herself.
She dove into the rapids and was surprised by the power of the currents, bumped a few rocks, got mad and left.
But not without tossing insults to her hosts.
Well, it's too bad it worked out that way then.
I did warn her in PM last night about what was acceptable on the forums when she was asking about where to find the TOS.
I did warn her in PM last night about what was acceptable on the forums when she was asking about where to find the TOS.
Catavenger
New member
There is a warning that the political debates can get HEATED. I never made a personal remark against her.
We have no reason to run off pretty young women. Hell none of them give old farts give us a second glance in the real world. But here we can ignore our ages and just be human friends. Doesn't mean we have to be sluts and give up what we believe in, or honesty in our conversations.
If men andwomenare to be equal inthis world,then the need to plant their feet firmly, stand and defend their ground. Not go running off in tears when someone questions their musings.
Sadly not all women are worldy like you. Got any like minded friends or sisters? Stimulating people are much less boring in conversations that submissive ones. And they tend to respect their counterparts more. Male or female.
I personaly prefer intelligent, strong willed women. I married one on purpose. We are still together because she is mentaly challenging. And,fortunately, we don't agree on everything. She has her own mind and some backbone with which to take me , and anyone else, to task. Personaly I think she and I have a chance. Another 40 years will tell.
I wouldn't call myself worldly.
Yes, but they aren't into forums.. they like Facebook.
SShepherd
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nor did I, I simply asked for references to back up her assertions.
cdajen
Bronze Member
I would be a bit more careful of what I say, were I some of you, because I doubt you want to come across as the sophomoric group of knuckle-dragging, insecure, superficial male "mean girls" that you do.
I don't have the time or the desire to address each of you separately. You can all assure each other that you did nothing wrong, and that I "ran away crying" and slap each other's asses if you'd like. The facts remain the same, unless they have been edited of course. A good many of you behaved badly.
you didn't attack my facts, you attacked my honesty, my civility, my intelligence, my gender, my philosophy, my patriotism, my sanity and my character. You made comments about wondering whether I am "really" a woman. You claimed that I don't support the troops. You repeatedly called me "typical" and accused me of obfuscating things. However, you would never be specific. You didn't address my opinions or my facts... YOu simply called me a "predictable liberal". I'm sure it's much easier to live your life dismissing anyone you don't agree with as a liberal, than it would be to actually listen to people and react to them based on the merits of their arguments.
I did not whine, or cry or ask that anyone or anything be "moderated". ALL forums have rules regarding behavior. TOS are always posted clearly for anyone to find. If you accept donations or money from members, you have to provide terms of service so that people may be aware of the terms of the contract they are entering. That is the most basic rule of any forum website. The other most basic rule is that you cannot fundamentally alter a "debate" once you've posted something. Redacting portions of a post, in order to make your argument seem more valid, is cheating. Period.
I may use verbage that is not typical of the women you know. I may have more manners than you are accustomed to. I may not be what you assume a liberal should be. I'm ok with that. Being atypical does not give you the right to rude and unkind with impunity.
I got a message regarding the thread I posted about one of Romney's new ads. In the message I was told that I needed to cite my source for the article because there was concern over copyright laws. I find that ironic to say the least because there doesn't seem to be concern over basic rules of debate, but that's superfluous. All Associated Press articles are free to be reprinted or reposted without specific permission. I do not post things written by others, and claim they are mine. The article in the thread was clearly copy/pasted from another source. If it had been a source that needed to be cited, I would have cited it.
As to the amount of time I spent here.. The term "cold turkey" seems to be used, incorrectly, by several members here. I didn't quit another site "cold turkey". My mother went to Salt Lake city to get a cardiac ablation last week. I made arrangements to take leave from work (not a "free" vet btw) so that I could stay at home with her during the day while my father is at work. She needs to rest, so I'll be doing the cooking cleaning etc until she recovers. This left me with more time in front of the computer than i am accustomed to having. The site that is home to the forum I usually visit, has changed ownership and is being overhauled. they have chosen to stop using flash scripts, and as part of the change, the forums have been altered. I don't like the new format. So i thought I'd look for a new forum. I made the mistake of finding this one. I was not online nonstop. My computer remains open whether or not I'm in front of it. Worrying about my mom has completely thrown off my sleep schedule, which was already a mess, so i was online at odd hours. None of this is any of your business. i wouldnt' dream of questioning your private circumstances or of asking you to account for the amount of time you spend online. That would be out of line and inappropriate.
My job... Some of you have chosen to question my career. You're free to question whatever you'd like of course, but I have to telly ou how much that irritates me. I work for a low cost spay and neuter clinic and emergency veterinary surgery. I deal with cases that no one else wants or will take. Most of my patients pay. I do not turn people with emergency cases away because they cannot pay what other surgical clinics would charge. I help put family pets back together after they get hit by cars, or get tangled up in farm equipment, or get caught in a trap, or get attacked by another animal. I do my best to save the lives of animals that are really important to people. I help with a program to trap feral cats and neuter them so that there are less unwanted kittens. I work as part of a group to help find homes for animals that need owners.
I work hard for my family. I love my work because it's important. I love my country. I am an honest, nice woman. I would be horribly embarrassed if a member of my family treated you or your wives or daughters, the way I've been treated by some of you here. I sincerely hope that many of you are far different online than in real life.
Feel free to go back to the back slapping joviality, I'm sorry for interrupting. If you dont mind, I'd appreciate it if you could refrain from making overt judgements about who I am or what I do when I'm not here to defend myself.
Jennifer
I don't have the time or the desire to address each of you separately. You can all assure each other that you did nothing wrong, and that I "ran away crying" and slap each other's asses if you'd like. The facts remain the same, unless they have been edited of course. A good many of you behaved badly.
you didn't attack my facts, you attacked my honesty, my civility, my intelligence, my gender, my philosophy, my patriotism, my sanity and my character. You made comments about wondering whether I am "really" a woman. You claimed that I don't support the troops. You repeatedly called me "typical" and accused me of obfuscating things. However, you would never be specific. You didn't address my opinions or my facts... YOu simply called me a "predictable liberal". I'm sure it's much easier to live your life dismissing anyone you don't agree with as a liberal, than it would be to actually listen to people and react to them based on the merits of their arguments.
I did not whine, or cry or ask that anyone or anything be "moderated". ALL forums have rules regarding behavior. TOS are always posted clearly for anyone to find. If you accept donations or money from members, you have to provide terms of service so that people may be aware of the terms of the contract they are entering. That is the most basic rule of any forum website. The other most basic rule is that you cannot fundamentally alter a "debate" once you've posted something. Redacting portions of a post, in order to make your argument seem more valid, is cheating. Period.
I may use verbage that is not typical of the women you know. I may have more manners than you are accustomed to. I may not be what you assume a liberal should be. I'm ok with that. Being atypical does not give you the right to rude and unkind with impunity.
I got a message regarding the thread I posted about one of Romney's new ads. In the message I was told that I needed to cite my source for the article because there was concern over copyright laws. I find that ironic to say the least because there doesn't seem to be concern over basic rules of debate, but that's superfluous. All Associated Press articles are free to be reprinted or reposted without specific permission. I do not post things written by others, and claim they are mine. The article in the thread was clearly copy/pasted from another source. If it had been a source that needed to be cited, I would have cited it.
As to the amount of time I spent here.. The term "cold turkey" seems to be used, incorrectly, by several members here. I didn't quit another site "cold turkey". My mother went to Salt Lake city to get a cardiac ablation last week. I made arrangements to take leave from work (not a "free" vet btw) so that I could stay at home with her during the day while my father is at work. She needs to rest, so I'll be doing the cooking cleaning etc until she recovers. This left me with more time in front of the computer than i am accustomed to having. The site that is home to the forum I usually visit, has changed ownership and is being overhauled. they have chosen to stop using flash scripts, and as part of the change, the forums have been altered. I don't like the new format. So i thought I'd look for a new forum. I made the mistake of finding this one. I was not online nonstop. My computer remains open whether or not I'm in front of it. Worrying about my mom has completely thrown off my sleep schedule, which was already a mess, so i was online at odd hours. None of this is any of your business. i wouldnt' dream of questioning your private circumstances or of asking you to account for the amount of time you spend online. That would be out of line and inappropriate.
My job... Some of you have chosen to question my career. You're free to question whatever you'd like of course, but I have to telly ou how much that irritates me. I work for a low cost spay and neuter clinic and emergency veterinary surgery. I deal with cases that no one else wants or will take. Most of my patients pay. I do not turn people with emergency cases away because they cannot pay what other surgical clinics would charge. I help put family pets back together after they get hit by cars, or get tangled up in farm equipment, or get caught in a trap, or get attacked by another animal. I do my best to save the lives of animals that are really important to people. I help with a program to trap feral cats and neuter them so that there are less unwanted kittens. I work as part of a group to help find homes for animals that need owners.
I work hard for my family. I love my work because it's important. I love my country. I am an honest, nice woman. I would be horribly embarrassed if a member of my family treated you or your wives or daughters, the way I've been treated by some of you here. I sincerely hope that many of you are far different online than in real life.
Feel free to go back to the back slapping joviality, I'm sorry for interrupting. If you dont mind, I'd appreciate it if you could refrain from making overt judgements about who I am or what I do when I'm not here to defend myself.
Jennifer
Kane
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You see, that's the problem, Jennifer. What facts? What merit of argument?
With all respect (as best as I can garner) all that I heard from you was "I'm a liberal, and I'm smarter than you. So you are wrong and I am right."
We are all open to learn from facts and corollary, and politely suggest that the knuckle-draggers here on FF offer just such an environment of informed debate. What you will not hear on FF is "I'm a conservative, smarter than you, therefore I'm right." Anyone dabbling here, if willing, will be engaged in debate rife with documentation supporting a opinion or political position. Positions are backed up with fact. Gobs and gobs of it. That is how we learn, not simply win; not lose.
And that is how opinions are either reinforced, or - God Forbid - altered. By facts and current corollary. And the folks a FF offer plenty.
Sorry, Jen, but when challenged with a differing opinion, the extent of what you offer is, paraphrasing but we may quote, "how can anyone be so stupid as to believe that."
Thanks but no thanks. Me? I want more. Tell me why I'm wrong. Show me facts and current corollary. Maybe you'll change my mind.
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muleman
Gone But Not Forgotten
Jennifer, You chose to take offense at my post about rounding up folks and sending them back to where they came from. That is your right and nobody can tell you how to feel about things. As to a lot of your other remarks I also work spay/neuter clinics and so does my wife. We both volunteer at a local private shelter. I never threw any stones at you so perhaps your broad sweeping condemnation is a bit out of line. There is a simple solution to much of this situation..........
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Jen,
When your life is more normal, and your consernes are not with your parents as they are now, I surely would like to see you posting here again...It's hard to answer all the questions you had thrown at you this past week, and one thing most have learned here is that some one will want supporting eveidence for what you post. It's a bitch to do some times, but in the end you will be respected for it.
I am sure when I posted in one thread you thought you were being "piled on"...Actually I am a farmer and spend time in the evening and mornings here. My chance to ask was with several others, and at the same time. Just remember you cann't "see" us and know why we post and when.
And the politial debate thread is a tough place to post BTW. The warning of heated conversations is quite real. But many other places on the forum are not at all like this...
You bring good itellegent conversation here, and I hope with some time to think about it, you might come here from time to time...When you have the time.
Best regards, Kirk
When your life is more normal, and your consernes are not with your parents as they are now, I surely would like to see you posting here again...It's hard to answer all the questions you had thrown at you this past week, and one thing most have learned here is that some one will want supporting eveidence for what you post. It's a bitch to do some times, but in the end you will be respected for it.
I am sure when I posted in one thread you thought you were being "piled on"...Actually I am a farmer and spend time in the evening and mornings here. My chance to ask was with several others, and at the same time. Just remember you cann't "see" us and know why we post and when. And the politial debate thread is a tough place to post BTW. The warning of heated conversations is quite real. But many other places on the forum are not at all like this...
You bring good itellegent conversation here, and I hope with some time to think about it, you might come here from time to time...When you have the time.
Best regards, Kirk
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mak2
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each and every time someone comes here and has a bit different idealology (read even slightly liberal) they get run off. Happens every time, and you guys pretend it is some intellectual superiority, superior logic, or something. IT is because you guys attacked her personally happens every time. How can you possibly not see it? I guarantee you it was NOT the superior intellect or strong logic.
mak2
Active member
They ran her off. As usual. 
They ran her off. As usual.
As always your comments are inflammitory, which is fine, but unfounded.
When I joined,I was accused of having avery different point of view on many subjects. I recall a tangle or two with just about everyone here. Fortunately, we still do.
Its normal to provoke newbies.
It is also normal, and healthy to provoke each other.
That said;
I don't think anyone should come here to be changed into what folks here would like. At the same time, I don't think we need to change what we are so tender souls can join serious discussions about important issues. I have participated inother Forums. One thing is almost universal,,,,internet chatter is cheap. I must say this one likely has some of the most informed participants onboth the left and the right, who raise the discussions to a point of usefulness.
If you bring your class I skills to a class V river, don't bitch about bumping rocks in the the rapids. We like the river to be tough and challenging. We aren't obligated or interested in changing the river. I emplor the mods not to change anything, simply because CDAJEN , or you sir, are offended by our rugged waters.
Again I assert that no one said anything to Jen that was insulting, and certainly not at a level equal to what she is spouting. Provoking , yes, possibly even teasing a bit. But nothing mendacios.
You are welcome to re read the posts and prove differt'. Backup your assertions with examples MAK2. Which is all anyone here asked CDAJen to do.
mak2
Active member
They are simply true. And you cant handle the truth. It happens every time and then the denial starts.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo"]A Few Good Man "You Can't Handle the Truth" - YouTube[/ame]
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo"]A Few Good Man "You Can't Handle the Truth" - YouTube[/ame]
They ran her off. As usual.
As always your comments are inflammitory, which is fine, but unfounded.
When I joined,I was accused of having avery different point of view onmany subjects. I recall a tangle or two with just about everyone here. Fortunately, we still do.
Its normal to provoke newbies.
It is also normalandhealthy to provoke each other.
That said;
I don't think anyone should come here to be changed into what folks here would like. At the sametime, I don't think we need to change what we are so tender souls can join serious discussions about important issues.
If you bring you class I skills to a class V river, don't bitch about bumping rocks in the the rapids. We like the river to be tough and challenging. We aren't obligated or interested in changing the river.
Again I assert that no one said anything to Jen that was insulting, and certainly not at a level equal to what she is spouting. Provoking , yes, possibly even teasing a bit. But nothing mendacios.
You are welcome to re read the posts and prove differt'. Backup your assertions with examples MAK2. Which is all anyone here asked CDAJen to do.
Smoochy
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I know it's not really my place being as that I'm not a very active member, but it's a shame you're leaving, Jenn. You're obviously an intelligent woman and I wish you, and your mother, the best.
I know that my views are not what is popular around here (I'm also a liberal), and I don't agree with a large majority of what is said in the political board here, but I take it all with a grain of salt. I know these people aren't bad people, they just have different views than myself and that's fine. If you haven't noticed, I'm only active in off topic and other forums (this is my first post in any serious thread). I enjoy chatting with others regardless of their political views or religious beliefs, I let them feel and believe how they want.
Plus, I'm not a very good debater, so I stay away from that end of the spectrum.
I know that my views are not what is popular around here (I'm also a liberal), and I don't agree with a large majority of what is said in the political board here, but I take it all with a grain of salt. I know these people aren't bad people, they just have different views than myself and that's fine. If you haven't noticed, I'm only active in off topic and other forums (this is my first post in any serious thread). I enjoy chatting with others regardless of their political views or religious beliefs, I let them feel and believe how they want.
Plus, I'm not a very good debater, so I stay away from that end of the spectrum.
JEV
Mr. Congeniality
They are simply true. And you cant handle the truth. It happens every time and then the denial starts.
A Few Good Man "You Can't Handle the Truth" - YouTube
You made a funny, mak. That's what we like about you... Your good sense of humor.
mak2
Active member
FOr not giving a shit you sure do babble on. You guys surrounded her and ran her off. As always. If you arent smart enough to see the personal attacks me pointing them out probably wont help, I have already pointed out several, but again, you are in denial. How bout one of you dummies telling her she did not talk like a woman? That is not a personal attack? It was suppose to be a funny post, guess the turth hurts huh?
SShepherd
New member
rotfl, and when you're out of ammo mak, the drama starts.
boo hoo...big bad meanies are picking on us cuz we have a different point of view. Next we'll hear you prate about how you're going to get banned for being the "token" liberal..."but something has to be said". Spare us the Tammy Fay tears.
I'm pretty sure that ANYONE in the debate forums states something as a fact and don't back it up, it's on like donkey kong.
About every 3 month I take you off ignore, and it takes about a week to regret it.
boo hoo...big bad meanies are picking on us cuz we have a different point of view. Next we'll hear you prate about how you're going to get banned for being the "token" liberal..."but something has to be said". Spare us the Tammy Fay tears.
I'm pretty sure that ANYONE in the debate forums states something as a fact and don't back it up, it's on like donkey kong.
About every 3 month I take you off ignore, and it takes about a week to regret it.
mak2
Active member
A week? Damn.
mak2,
I think she left caise she is over welmed. She doesn't strike me as the type to be "run off" is that is not her choice. Caring for a parent, and worrying about her own life is like that at times. This board, and what goes on here requires an emmense amount of time, if you participate fully and provide the supporting arguments for others to see, and debate. Like you she is out numbered by a fair margin. This can be overwhelming if your tring to lead your life in the "real" world....
I do hope however she comes back in a fashion she can find managable, with less posts and more time to supply supporting evidence.....
Regards, Kirk
I think she left caise she is over welmed. She doesn't strike me as the type to be "run off" is that is not her choice. Caring for a parent, and worrying about her own life is like that at times. This board, and what goes on here requires an emmense amount of time, if you participate fully and provide the supporting arguments for others to see, and debate. Like you she is out numbered by a fair margin. This can be overwhelming if your tring to lead your life in the "real" world....
I do hope however she comes back in a fashion she can find managable, with less posts and more time to supply supporting evidence.....
Regards, Kirk
mak2
Active member
That certainly could be Kirk, it did sound like she has a lot going on in life. I do think the personal attacks she mentioned at least contributed to her departure. It just happens every single time, that is my point. I dont think it was the pressure of citing references for her opinions. Thanks the well thought out and polite post. Maybe she will be back someday.
I dunno Kirk. We all have a lot going on in our lives. If we have too much on the plate, why come here and add to the stress by picking a fight with strangers?
If we have a lot to do, how does one find the time to compose 30 plus entries a day on a Forum?
Simple logic defeats that argument.
tiredretired
The Old Salt
By all means, please post in the debate section. Get your feet wet a little so to speak. I would love to hear your opinions. I understand what Mak is saying but I do not agree with it. Two of the most prominent liberals here Mak & JoeC are both on my friends list and I am damn proud to say that. Good people both.
With that said, Smoochy, you have been here a month or so and have made great posts. You did not come riding into town on your high horse, telling everyone how smart you are, how much money you have, yada, yada yada. That turns people off. It did me. Big time. Don't need to impress me, I am nobody. The brutal truth and I was dissed for saying it is this is the internet, who gives a shit. Kind of strong, but you get my point.
Respect is earned. You have earned mine already. Post. Let's have some great points of view.
Smoochy
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By all means, please post in the debate section. Get your feet wet a little so to speak. I would love to hear your opinions. I understand what Mak is saying but I do not agree with it. Two of the most prominent liberals here Mak & JoeC are both on my friends list and I am damn proud to say that. Good people both.
With that said, Smoochy, you have been here a month or so and have made great posts. You did not come riding into town on your high horse, telling everyone how smart you are, how much money you have, yada, yada yada. That turns people off. It did me. Big time. Don't need to impress me, I am nobody. The brutal truth and I was dissed for saying it is this is the internet, who gives a shit. Kind of strong, but you get my point.
Respect is earned. You have earned mine already. Post. Let's have some great points of view.
I appreciate the kind words, good sir.
However, when it comes to debate, I start spazzing. That's why I tend to avoid it. I have my beliefs, I'm just not very good at arguments. Plus, I'm also not a bleeding heart liberal. Sure, I agree with the left on most things, but there are some things that I agree with on the conservative side. Do I like Obama? Not really, sure I voted for him in 2008, but he hasn't really impressed me with his term, so I'm still torn as to who will be getting my vote come November. I'm not your hard headed "I'm always right, you're always wrong" type guy when it comes to anything. That's not to say that I won't throw my two cents in occasionally though.
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