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Toy "green army men" violate school's Zero-Tolerance Gun Ban

Melensdad

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From the silly to the absurd. If only it were not so damn sad. Maybe we can follow the lead of the UK and arrest grandmothers who have family heirloom arms tucked under their beds?

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=10940746
Toy Soldiers Run Afoul of School's Weapons Ban
Rhode Island school bans boy's hat because of toy soldiers holding tiny guns

The Associated Press
By MICHELLE R. SMITH Associated Press Writer
PROVIDENCE, R.I. June 17, 2010 (AP)

Christan Morales says her son just wanted to honor American troops when he wore a hat to school decorated with an American flag and small plastic Army figures.

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But the hat ran afoul of the district's no-weapons policy because the toy soldiers were carrying tiny weapons.

"His teacher called and said it wasn't appropriate because it had guns," Morales said.

Morales' 8-year-old son, David, was assigned to make a hat for the day when his second-grade class would met their pen pals from another school. She and her son came up with an idea to add patriotic decorations to a camouflage hat.

Earlier this week, the Tiogue School in Coventry sent the cap home with David at the end of the day after concluding it violated a zero-tolerance policy for weapons.

The principal told the family that the hat would be fine if David replaced the Army men holding weapons with ones that didn't have any, according to Superintendent Kenneth R. Di Pietro.

Morales said the family had only one Army figure without a weapon (he was carrying binoculars), so David wore a plain baseball cap on the day of the visit.

"Nothing was being done to limit patriotism, creativity, other than find an alternative to a weapon," Di Pietro said.

The district does not allow images of weapons or drugs on clothing. For example, a student would not be permitted to wear a shirt with a picture of a marijuana leaf on it, the superintendent said.

The principal "wasn't denying the patriotism," he said. "That just is the wrong and unfair image of one of our finest principals."

Morales said her son was inspired to honor the military after striking up a friendship last summer with a neighbor in the Army.

Banning the hat "sent the wrong message to the kids, because it wasn't in any way to cause any harm to anyone," she said. "You're talking about Army men. This wasn't about guns."​
 
I agree this stuff is just plain absurd to say the least. But then any zero tolerance type rule is absurd as the world is shades of gray never was straight black and white.
 
Not the beginning. Check google...

Banned from school for wearing the flag?

A group of California high school students sent home for wearing the American flag on Cinco de Mayo sparks national outrage

posted on May 7, 2010, at 5:51 PM

Were the teens being patriotic - or insulting?

Teachers sent home five Morgan Hill, CA, high school students this week for wearing American flag t-shirts and bandanas on the Mexican holiday Cinco de Mayo. The boys — of whom four are Caucasian and one is Hispanic — said they were just being "patriotic." The school's vice principal, however, argued that their "incendiary" clothing could start fights and about 200 Hispanic students walked out of class Thursday to protest the way the wardrobe choices "disrespected" them. Was sending the flag-adorned students home the wrong move?

and;

A school district in upstate New York has laid down the law over kids riding their bikes to school. But one family has decided to ignore it.

The Marinos told their local paper they ride regularly for exercise and recreation – and as far as they’re concerned, it’s up to them how their son gets to school. So they’re riding anyway.

The back-and-forth this past week between parents and school district has made for an interesting debate among other parents. Is biking better because it’s exercise in light of a childhood obesity crisis? Is it better because it’s greener than a school bus?

Or is the school district right – there are inherent dangers in children using a means other than a bus or car to get to school?

There are certainly dangers – U.S. Department of Transportation statistics show bicycle accidents account for two percent of traffic fatalities and two percent of traffic injuries.

No wonder no one’s letting their kid be a paper boy anymore. And as I discovered in my review of the dangers for kids walking to school this week, the sharp increase in the number of vehicles on the road today vs. when we or our parents made their way to school via a means other than a vehicle presents certain dangers.

But by riding to school with their son, the Marinos cast this debate in a different light. A child riding a bicycle alone to school can easily be caught up in his or her own thoughts and miss a stop sign, can be driven either via peer pressure or sheer childishness to add a little risk to the ride, can be caught up in listening to the iPod and miss the car behind them. Add a parent to the equation, and their level adult head shaves away a high portion of those problems. Not to mention an incident that happens on Mom or Dad’s watch no longer falls on the shoulders of the school district in today’s litigious society.

The district is debating how best to remedy the situation. Here’s our suggestion: add the word “unattended” to the policy. As in “no unattended child shall bicycle to school . . .”

I hate to sound old fashioned but... I walked to school when I was a kid (or rode a bike in the spring/fall) from the time I was in 3rd grade. Over 1 1/5 miles each way. I watched my self, traffic and everyone else. A different time? Maybe.
 
The way I see the school policy against riding a bike to school, is it is really none of the schools business how kids get to school as long as they get there on time. The schools seem to have decided that they have some right so control out of school behavior. A while back a thread was posted concerning schools sending laptops home with cameras the school could turn on, and disciplined a student for doing drugs in his own room. Turned out to be not so.

Is bike riding inherently dangerous. Of course it is, but that is not the issue.
 
Guns are lawful and and an inherent way of life in a lot of homes, it's pure BS that schools take a negative and bad standing against them.
 
Update from the Associated Press - June 18, 2010
RI boy who made banned toy soldier hat gets medal

EAST PROVIDENCE, R.I.
A Rhode Island boy whose school banned a hat he made because the toy soldiers on it carried tiny guns was awarded a medal on Friday for his patriotic efforts.
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A Rhode Island boy whose school banned a hat he made because the toy soldiers on it carried tiny guns was awarded a medal on Friday for his patriotic efforts.

Lt. Gen. Reginald Centracchio, the retired head of the Rhode Island National Guard, gave 8-year-old David Morales a medal called a challenge coin during an appearance on WPRO-AM's John DePetro show.

Centracchio said the second-grader should be thanked for recognizing veterans and soldiers.

"You did nothing wrong, and you did an outstanding job," he said. "We can only hope that kids of your caliber will continue to defend this country."

Centracchio also gave David a certificate that allows him to call himself a brigadier general.
David was assigned to make a hat last week for a project at the Tiogue School in Coventry. He chose a patriotic theme and glued plastic Army figures to a camouflage baseball cap. But school officials said the hat ran afoul of their no-weapons policy because the Army men held tiny guns.

The school has said David was offered the chance to wear the hat if he replaced the toy soldiers holding weapons with ones that didn't have any. Centracchio said that didn't make sense because soldiers are armed, and met with school administrators Thursday to share his concerns.

David said he felt great and called it an honor.

"I think it's really special," he said. "I'm going to definitely enjoy this day for a long time."

Also Friday, the Rhode Island chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union said it sent a letter to Coventry Superintendent Kenneth DiPietro saying the school's policy was an unconstitutional violation of students' free speech. It called on the district to revise the policy.

DiPietro did not immediately return a message seeking comment.
 
Looks like the School District plans to change their policy.


From the Associated Press
- June 19, 2010

Rhode Island School to Change Policy That Banned Soldier Hat

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The superintendent of a Rhode Island school district that banned a second-grader's homemade hat because it displayed toy soldiers with tiny guns said Saturday he will work to change the policy to allow such apparel.

Ken Di Pietro said in an e-mail to The Associated Press that the no-weapons policy shouldn't limit student expression, especially when students are depicting "tools of a profession or service," such as the military or police.

"The event exposed how a policy meant to ensure safe environments for students can become restrictive and can present an image counter to the work of our schools to promote patriotism and democracy," Di Pietro said.

David Morales, an 8-year-old student at Tiogue School, made the hat after choosing a patriotic theme for a school project last week. He glued plastic Army figures to a camouflage baseball cap. But school officials banned the hat, saying the guns carried by the Army figures violated school policy.

The decision prompted criticism of the school and support for Morales. On Friday, the boy received a medal from Lt. Gen. Reginald Centracchio, the retired head of the Rhode Island National Guard. Centracchio said Morales should be thanked for recognizing veterans and soldiers.

"You did nothing wrong, and you did an outstanding job," Centracchio told the boy.

Di Pietro said Centracchio met with school officials and asked them to change the policy, and Di Pietro agreed to work with the school committee on a revision. Di Pietro said the incident obscured the district's strong support for the military.

He noted that Coventry schools sponsor one of only two Air Force Junior ROTC programs in the state.

"Coventry Public Schools has a long history of support for the military and for instilling patriotism in students," he said.
 
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