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Slower Traffic Keep Right

ddrane2115 said:
Driving is a priviledge, the laws governing it provide me my rights during the act of driving/
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You don't have any rights!!!! You have obligations to follow the laws like all the rest of the people and that includes, but isn't limited to KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT WHEN PASSING!!!! Now, what part of that don't you understand..... :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum:

PS........ it is privilege, not priviledge......:moon:
 
Junkman said:
You don't have any rights!!!! You have obligations to follow the laws like all the rest of the people and that includes, but isn't limited to KEEP RIGHT EXCEPT WHEN PASSING!!!! Now, what part of that don't you understand..... :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum:

PS........ it is privilege, not priviledge......:moon:
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Do these instructions pertain to all of the readers or just the ones in the countries where we are supposed to drive on the right. The Australian and British readers should be alerted so that serious accidents are avoided when they are driving.:17875:
 
REDDOGTWO said:
Do these instructions pertain to all of the readers or just the ones in the countries where we are supposed to drive on the right. The Australian and British readers should be alerted so that serious accidents are avoided when they are driving.:17875:
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This issue is primarily an issue in the US of A. The people in the rest of the world have already learned this lesson, or they are dead..... Just for the record, this is for people that drive on the right hand side of the road, as opposed to those that drive on the left with the steering wheel commonly placed on the right, such as England, Australia, & Japan. I am certain that there are many more countries that drive on the left, but presently I don't remember them all.... Junk...

History.....
 
bczoom said:
Well John, we all know it's true.
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Hey Brian,:finger3 f:poke::4_11_9::yum:.

Thanks for posting that piece. I guess I wasn't careful. I learned something. I thought that part of vehicles being 10K gross or heavier, to stay right, was around 20K. I guess I HAVE to stay right whenever I hookup a trailer. Truck gross is 8800, and even my smallest trailer is 7000. So, on a 3 lane, I better keep out of the hammerdown lane. I'm usually not there anyway, even bareback.

But why did they say Michigan was wierd, what's wrong with Michigan?:tiphat::beer::beer:
 
johnday said:
Hey Brian,:finger3 f:poke::4_11_9::yum:.

Thanks for posting that piece. I guess I wasn't careful. I learned something. I thought that part of vehicles being 10K gross or heavier, to stay right, was around 20K. I guess I HAVE to stay right whenever I hookup a trailer. Truck gross is 8800, and even my smallest trailer is 7000. So, on a 3 lane, I better keep out of the hammerdown lane. I'm usually not there anyway, even bareback.

But why did they say Michigan was wierd, what's wrong with Michigan?:tiphat::beer::beer:
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I like Michigan. As it relates to this thread, most Michigan drivers seem to fully understand the slow = right rules. Illinois isn't bad either. Wisconsin is absolutely terrible, as is Indiana.

I drive in all 4 states every week; at least 270 miles each way. I've drivem all over the US, and I have to say, Wisconsin and Indiana drivers are the worst I've encountered in terms of common courtesy and understanding why entry/exit ramps are soooo long - duh - to exit and enter the highway at highway speeds. :pat:

It seems every exit in Wisconsin or Indiana is accompanied by some idiot that starts slowing down to below speed limits before entering the ramp to get off, and I've even witnesed Wisconsin and Indiana drivers STOP on the highway entrance ramp, then cause swerving and hard braking by other drivers as they pull out into the highway and right into the middle lane. Of course, they are safe drivers as indicated by their clean accident record. :confused:

I suspect ddrane does simllar things, or he is just toying with us......
 
Re: Slower Traffic Keep Right, junk

i guess the law of speed limit does not count. I degress, you all win. I will continue to drive as i do, and hope that no one runs over me. If you see a f250 van with a big truck in the back of it........it may be me.
 
Danny, of course the law of speed limits counts. But, it appears you missed the whole point of this thread. Driving in the left lane for no reason, and holding up someone that is faster, is the point. If the speed limit is 55, and someone driving 50 is holding up someone going 55, that's wrong. If someone is going 55, and holding up someone going 90, that's wrong. It's the deliberate staying in the left lane for no reason at all other than you like it there and don't feel like switching to the right lane, that's wrong.

Several times you and others have mentioned being in the left lane for a reason. That's fine. Unless you're going slower than the legal minimum, hold your speed and stay in the left lane until the reason goes away. No reasonable person will get mad at you. But, once you've completed your pass or gotten past the obstruction or gone past the emergency services or cop on the right, it's your obligation to get out of the left lane and leave it for other people to use. If they choose to go past the speed limit, that is not your concern. Use your cell phone and call it in, if you like. But, if you stay out in the left lane, it's YOU who are acting like you own the road. People who think they can control how others drive are arrogant jerks; I hope that's not you.

I have informed my wife and kids that if they are with me, and ever catch me driving in the left hand lane without a darn good reason, they are to open the glove box, get out the revolver I bought for just this purpose, and shoot me. I don't deserve to live.

By the way, I totally agree with several others that it's even worse to match the speed of the car next to you. Speed up, slow down or do whatever you have to do, but get out of the way.

All this goes away in a rush hour situation. At 5 PM on I-95 in Fort Lauderdale, even with 6 lanes in each direction, there is no fast lane.
 
waybomb; Fred, I like Michigan too!! When you want a real treat though, take a ride thru the Peoples Republic of Ann Arbor on US23, or Toledo on one of the expressways. I think one of the best drives I've had was thru Nebraska on I-80, or the NY Thruway, if ya gotta go long distance, I always want it to be like that.:tiphat::beer::beer:
 
I'm in the same boat as Dargo..... Cant believe how quickly this one blew up...:pat:

Now, its kind of funny, I was going to start the very same thread a couple of weeks ago.. My issue is not whether speeding is part of it or not.. I dont care if the speed limit is 100mph, comon law is for comon decency to pass primarily to the left.. This is and always has been standard practice in this country(to my understanding).. Why do some people think it is their right to ride in the left lane, regardless of whether they are passing or not? That is not a right, its a nusance, you are causing problems, you are causing accidents, get the f%^k out of the left hand lane.. Trafic infractions are to be dealt with by the police, not the citizens.. When I was learning to drive, the rule was if you are being passed by the right, you needed to get out of the way. Dont know when that changed, but some people just feel they are entitled to do what they want, regardless of how it effects others.. Do the same people fart and pick their noses at the dinner table with bussiness clients, just because there is no written law?? Dammit man, this topic pisses me off........ I learned to ride a motorcycle in Miami, learned to always watch my mirrors.. If I see a car 1/2mi away, closing fast(regardless of which lane I am in) I will move to the right out of respect.. If he's doing 200mph, its not my bussiness to stop him so I let him go without affecting me.. In the end, how much of an inconvenience was it for me to do so???:moon: Get over yourselves, thats a childish way of thinking........(me me me me me me me.....)
 
OkeeDon said:
get out the revolver I bought for just this purpose, and shoot me. I don't deserve to live.
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Not you too Don!:pat: Don't tailgate Danny or you guys will be shootin' it out on the highway.
Bonehead
 
HGM said:
Do the same people fart and pick their noses at the dinner table with bussiness clients, just because there is no written law??
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You caught me, except I'm not coordinated enough to do both at the same time.
Bone
 
Courtesy, common sense, safety, the law. All of those are reasons why slower traffic should move to the right.

Tonight on my way home there was a white Ford Focus riding the left lane. Traffic was fairly heavy, the right lane was running about 60mph (speed limit is 60 on this road) but occasionally slower due to people turning right. Left lane was running about 61mph becasue the guy in the Focus was holding up a line of at least 20 cars. I was directly behind the Focus.

I got lucky and a guy in the right lane slowed to turn, I was able to pass the Focus because I moved into the right lane. I was the only car of 20 to pass him. He just sat there in the left lane. I passed 3 cars that were in the right lane (I was probably doing close almost 70) and then I slid into the right lane where I belonged. NOBODY was in the left lane in front of me. In the rear view I could see the white Focus holding back traffic. People were trying to pass on the right but couldn't.

Eventually he moved to the right lane to turn and probably 15 cars closed on me and most of them zipped past me before I turned off the road.

The guy in the Focus was a jackass. I wasn't the fastest car out there by a long shot, I was just lucky enough to be right behind that jerk when an opening to pass him presented itself.

But that is the type of guy that needs to get the f... out of the way. And it strikes me that that is the type of guy that some people here are trying to defend. His actions are simply wrong. They are dangerous. They are childish. They are illegal.
 
Bob, I gotta assume that you were not in Chicago. If so, they certainly would have passed him in the median and given him change for the next toll as they went by. :eek:
 
I must have been typing while Don was.... He, very diplomaticly, expressed what most of us are saying in more of a "hot" tone... Road rage is often caused by the victom:14_6_12:

BTW, It is a law look at section "b"
 
johnday said:
Thanks for posting that piece. I guess I wasn't careful. I learned something. I thought that part of vehicles being 10K gross or heavier, to stay right, was around 20K. I guess I HAVE to stay right whenever I hookup a trailer. Truck gross is 8800, and even my smallest trailer is 7000. So, on a 3 lane, I better keep out of the hammerdown lane.
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Ahhh... John,

I could have swore I saw signs right in front of your house on I-75 that said no trailers or vehicles over 6 tires or 10K# are allowed in the left lane. Is that not true? Maybe the signs were on 280N.

I'll go easy on the "what's wrong with Michigan". The top 1/2 should be part of Wisconsin. You have to admit it's a little funny when the question of "What's the first foreign country you hit when you head SOUTH from Detroit" and the answer is Canada...

johnday said:
I think one of the best drives I've had was thru Nebraska on I-80, or the NY Thruway
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Glad you like the NY Thruway... It was designed by one of my Great Uncles. Unfortunately, they didn't build it quite to his specs. He modeled it after the Autobahn and it was designed for 150 mph. They leveled out the banking he had on some of the bends...
 
bczoom said:
Ahhh... John,

I could have swore I saw signs right in front of your house on I-75 that said no trailers or vehicles over 6 tires or 10K# are allowed in the left lane. Is that not true? Maybe the signs were on 280N.

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I'll betcha those signs were down on 280 in Ohio thru the construction area going over the river, there's some spots that get pretty close if your dragging something.:tiphat:
 
bczoom said:
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Glad you like the NY Thruway... It was designed by one of my Great Uncles. Unfortunately, they didn't build it quite to his specs. He modeled it after the Autobahn and it was designed for 150 mph. They leveled out the banking he had on some of the bends...
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Intresting tidbit on the thruway. Great road, nice scenery, and great drivers, not an idiot all the way across except some from Michigan that couldn't keep off the cellphone. Tell your Uncle he did mighty fine.:thumb::tiphat::beer::beer:
 
Gatorboy said:
I guess maybe I should start more topics rather than just comment on others.
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You did OK. You even showed more restraint than many thread-starters, including me, for stirring up the pot once it began. And, you even left it to Junk to correct someone for their spelling!

Aren't you glad you decided to stick around here a little? Isn't this more fun than the "other" place some of us came from?
 
BoneheadNW said:
The people that live there!:D They are Michiganers (Junk will get the joke).
Bonehead
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Jay, MichiganDer!! What's a Michiganer? Almost sounds like, Left Coast/LeftWing, Right Coast/RightWing, and the rest of us are in Central America!!!:yum::tiphat::beer:
 
OkeeDon said:
Aren't you glad you decided to stick around here a little? Isn't this more fun than the "other" place some of us came from?
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To be honest, the "other" place has really become a boring place to visit. I'm not fully gung-ho on this site, but at least from time to time there are some interesting topics to discuss and I love not having to "censor" my thoughts from possible forum violations.
 
Gatorboy said:
To be honest, the "other" place has really become a boring place to visit. I'm not fully gung-ho on this site, but at least from time to time there are some interesting topics to discuss and I love not having to "censor" my thoughts from possible forum violations.
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You can say that again... Posts were just deleted over there because we suggested this site to a guy looking for a place to discuss politics... :mad:
 
johnday said:
Unreal!! I can't understand how people that are breaking the law, have the right to get to get burned at others that aren't breaking a law. Could this just be another case of the delusion that the world revolves around "ME", and you don't matter ?

Gator, yep, sometimes I won't use a signal, at least my right one. Seems a lot of "I'm Important/Impatient" drivers take that as, it's okay to pull out, he has his signal on. I was taught that my signals were a warning to drivers behind and beside me as to what my intentions are. Not the soccermom/dad at the intersection I'm turning right, as a go light for them to pull into traffic.

Ignorance is bliss, I suppose, and if impatient aggressive driving isn't ignorance, I'm not sure what is.

Danny, your welcome to drive with me anytime!:thumb::tiphat::beer::beer:
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Sorry John - if you're driving in the left lane and not passing someone in Michigan, you are breaking the law. I believe the law went into effect Jan. 1.:pat:

So, if you (Left Land Hog) and I (Speeder) are both breaking the law, "Could this just be another case of the World revolves around ME, and you don't matter"?:yum: :yum: :yum: :yum: :yum:
 
johnday said:
I'm all for slower traffic stay right, I've no problem with that. My point is the drivers that are speeding and know they are. They are breaking the law. I think we all agree that the slower traffic belongs to the right. But we're splitting hairs on what the slower traffic is. If you're speeding, say 75 in a 70, you are breaking the law. Now if I'm driving 70, and I go around someone thats going 68, let's say, and you at 75 come slamming up my ass, there's a problem, and it aint me. I'm not saying you actually do this, it's just an example."
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And if I come up behind you while you are passing someone slower than you, I'm happy to wait my turn to get around. It's the people that don't get over after they have gotten around the vehicle they were passing that burns me.:fart2:
 
johnday said:
Hi Bob! I'm not entirely sure who is missing the point. What I'm saying is that if I'm in the left lane, there's a reason for it, such as going around slower traffic that is where they should be. In that case, I'm the faster traffic, and doing what I should do. Using signals, maintaining my speed , and all the other stuff. But if someone comes cranking up behind me speeding, I can't see how they warrant getting POed at me when I'm going the legal limit. And yes, as soon as I can, I will get back in the right lane, as soon as I'm clear to do so. Why should I windup being the idiot?:D:confused:
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Aha...guess I should have read a little further! You da man - not da idiot.
 
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