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Recovering deck....advice needed

NorthernRedneck

NorthernRedneck

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I bought this place last summer. It has a 14X20 patio deck on the back which was built recently with treated lumber. The previous owners got the idea of painting it. Withing two years of them painting the deck, most of the paint is peeling. My question is this: Do I scrape it down and repaint it? Do I Cover it with that outdoor carpeting? Is there any other solution that would look good but not cost a fortune? I already tried a high powered pressure washer to remove the old paint with little success.

I'm wondering if there is some type of product out there similar to rhinoling that would be duarable enough for everyday use. I'd prefer to stay away from the outdoor carpetting.
 
Given the nature of your weather and as much as I would dread the idea, I would scrape it clean and then seal it with a stain. You say the deck was built recently. All of the houses I build include decks on the back. I instruct the buyers to wait 6-8 months before doing anything with the deck in order to give it enough time to dry so that regardless of whether they paint or stain it won't peel back up. The railings and deck boards dry faster than the posts. Just be sure your lumber is dry and you can treat it however you like. Do it before the cold sets in if you can.
 
They do have Rino Liner for all kinds of applications. They have a picture of a deck covered with light gray liner. Find the 'Spray What' section on the page and select residental deck from the drop down menu:

http://www.rhinolinings.com/

I bet it would be expensive, but it would also last longer than any other treatment I can think of.
 
My recommendation would have been the same as Cowboyjg.

Has the pealing stopped? If so, you may be able to re-paint since the moisture is now out of the lumber.

If the deck design isn't complex, is removing the deck boards and flipping them over an option? (Assuming he didn't paint both sides).

What color was it painted? Many deck stains (e.g. Sherwin Williams Deckscapes) come in many colors as well as having finishes that look more like paint than stain. If the pealing has stopped, you may be able to match it and go over it (but I don't know if the stain will adhere to the paint).
 
Peeling has not stopped. The kids were out a while back having fun peeling some of it off. It was painted a medium light grey colour. Removing the deck boards and turning them over would require basically dismantling the whole deck minus the frame and posts. So thats not an option. Believe me, I had already thought of doing that. I like the idea of a rhino lining type porduct but don't know how well it would stick to the wood.
 
I put a generic rhino liner on a trailer with a wood bed. That was a few years ago and it's still doing good. The trailer has seen medium use but is outside in the elements 100% of the time.
 
If you are looking to sell any time in the future I wouldn't do it. Stick to something mainstream and boring like stain.

Give those kids some sandpaper.

Even if you want to do rhino-liner, I think you will have to remove the old paint.
 
I've pretty much decided on staining the deck now. Question for you handymen out there: can I apply the stain over the old paint(I realise that I should remove most of the old paint)? If it's not possible for me to remove all of the old paint, what effect will that have on the stain?
 
Wouldn't advise you stain over the paint. Try a preassure washer with a 15 dergee tip. TAKE YOUR TIME! practice on some less obvious areas and practice getting close enough to take off the paint but not tear chunks out of the wood. Move on the the rest of the deck. Take a scraper to the hard to get off spots. This is all assuming that you don't want to have to come back and do it again. All this effort will pay off in the end! There are no short cuts to this. Put on your swim fins, a one piece suit, an innertube around your middle, a pair of swim goggles and dive in. It will be over before you know it and you'll have had a little fun in the process...lol
 
It's been a while now since I started this "little" project. I finally got off my A$$ this week and got the job done. Since last year, some of the remaining paint also started lifting and I finally got tired of looking at it and did something about it. I tried the pressure washer again which helped a bit bit didn't get it all off so I bit the bullet and took this week off from work so I could get this and a few other projects around the house done before winter. I started tuesday with a smaller belt sander and a whole lot of 50 grit sandpaper and after 2 days of sanding nonstop, I managed to get about 99% of the old paint off the surface. I washed it down again with the pressure washer to make sure it was good and clean then let it dry completely before applying and oil-based solid stain to the entire surface. The actual staining only took two hours to complete(first coat anyways) I'm still debating wether or not to do a second coat this year or just treat it with Tompson's water seal and get it again next summer. I'm quickly running out of time this fall before the colder weather sets in.

I took a bunch of pictures as I was doing the project but don't have them loaded up on the computer yet.
 
I'd use Behr, Olympic, or Australian oil over Thompson's, but that's a personal preference based on how well Thompson's DOESN'T work in my partof the continent. (It's a last choice for several contractors I've talked to, as well)
 
Erik said:
I'd use Behr, Olympic, or Australian oil over Thompson's, but that's a personal preference based on how well Thompson's DOESN'T work in my partof the continent. (It's a last choice for several contractors I've talked to, as well)
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I'm with Erik on the Thompsons. It just doesn't hold up.

Jim
 
  1. Belt sand the deck to get the paint off (Sorry, probably the only way.:chris:)
  2. Let the treated wood dry (I was told never stain treated wood until it weathers/dries at least a year.)
  3. Stain with a treated wood stain (we recently used Sikkens DEK & SRD products on our porch and deck with great results)
I think staining over paint will only cause you problems and at best a Schmidty finish. :censored:




(Oops, I should have read the entire thread.)
 
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I used Olympic stain on the deck and was told that to help it last longer, I could give it a coat of thompsons water seal to further protect the stain. I wouldn't use just thompsons as you guys are right, it just wouldn't last.
 
Finally got around to downloading the pictures from the camera to the computer. Here's a quick breakdown of how I did it describing each picture.

1. We worked at it on and off most of the summer with a paint scraper and pressure washer to get the old paint off and finally decided we'd have to sand it. (first picture) I spent basically two days on my hands and knees with a small belt sander and the roughest paper I could get by hands on.

2. Picture #2 shows a small section of before sanding and after.

3. Picture # 3 show what it looked like after two full days of sanding. (talk about sore.....I hurt for a week after that)

4. It took two days to sand it and about two hours to stain it. I went with an oil based solid stain that closely matched the colour of the old paint.

5. The finished product! Finally!

I plan on staining the rails and such in the spring but it won't be as labour intensive as this job as the rails were never painted or stained in the past.:clap:
 

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I only ended up giving it one coat this fall to protect it this winter as in the spring, I plan on doing the second coat along with the rails.(just in case this stuff fades) That way, everything will be the same colour instead of the deck surface being faded a year and the rails looking all fresh.
 
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