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Proposed new regulations could shutter all Coal + Natural Gas generation plants


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A push to close down all COAL fired electrical generation is not surprising. The 'green energy' supporters have been pushing this and it seems like a natural progression. They have been pretty much talked about being phased out over the past couple of decades anyway. But often the plan is to convert a COAL fired facility to a Natural Gas facility. It is cheaper than building a new one. Quicker too. The infrastructure is in place to facilitate the conversions from Coal to N.G. and most people, scientists included, consider N.G. to be a reasonably environmentally friendly way to produce electricity with only modest levels of carbon emissions.

But this proposal, while openly pushing to ban COAL, would have a backdoor ban on N.G.

And that would shut down 60% of all our electrical production in the US. FULL STORY at the link below from NY POST

President Biden just pledged to shut down 60% of America’s electric power

Stephen Moore
The Biden administration made two virtue-signaling proclamations at last week’s COP28 conference in Dubai that it says will help save the planet from climate change.
The policies aren’t likely to change the planet’s temperature by even one-tenth of a degree, but they might just destroy the 21st-century American industrial economy as we know it.
First, Team Biden announced it will stop production of all new coal plants in the United States.
This comes on the heels of President Biden’s Environmental Protection Agency saying this year it would impose new power plant emission regulations that are virtually impossible for coal plants to comply with.
The bottom line: No more coal. Period.
But the White House was just getting started.
Vice President Kamala Harris trumpeted the next day new rules to “sharply reduce methane from the oil and natural gas industry.”
The administration calls methane a “super-pollutant” that it wants to eliminate because it’s “many times more potent than carbon dioxide.”
But methane is effectively a hydrocarbon that comes from natural gas.
Eliminating methane is a de facto ban on natural gas power plants.
Here is the most sinister part of this story that no one in the Biden administration is telling you: Eradicating coal and natural gas plants will ravage America’s electric power capacity.
These regulations will cause rolling blackouts and brownouts across the country, much like we’ve already seen in California — America’s forerunner of radical anti-fossil fuel policies.
The lights will go out intermittently, and home heating in the winter and air conditioning in the summer will have to be turned off or rationed.
Without gas and coal plants, hospitals, schools, the internet, construction projects and factories will be routinely shut down when unreliable alternative energy sources like wind and solar power aren’t delivering enough juice.
Upward of 60% of America’s electric power generation will go away — and soon.
Coal still provides roughly 20% of our electric power; natural gas supplies around 40%.
What will make up for this lost power, especially given that our demands on the power grid are only going to multiply over the coming years as the greens want the entire network of cars, trucks and vans to be powered by charging up on the electric grid?
The Biden administration, in other words, wants to nearly double the demands on the electric grid network at the same time it wants to shut down more than half of the nation’s power generation — and the most reliable sources at that.
Something must give.
The climate-change groups that crammed into Dubai last week, echoed by head-in-the-sand politicians like John Kerry, piously advise that Americans will have to stop taking so many plane trips — especially overseas — and become less reliant on cars, switching to mass transit or bicycles instead.
Some people may believe these mandatory sacrifices and rationing of modern-age conveniences are justified to stave off “catastrophic climate change.”
Except the shutdown of our coal and natural gas power plants won’t move the needle a millimeter on greenhouse gas emissions — and may make global CO2 emissions worse, not better.
That’s because by far the biggest producer of greenhouse gas emissions — China — isn’t playing in this climate-change sandbox. . .


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Obiden strikes again. :angry:
If this goes through it will raise the electric rates across the country, which hurts the poor directly.

Currently lower income people are paying roughly 50% of their income on RENT alone. Add in higher energy prices and we, as taxpayers, will be taxed to subsidize low income energy bills, which are needlessly inflated by these new proposals.

But it also hurts our ability be a competitive manufacturing nation as manufacturing plants are heavily dependent on energy, so raising the price of electricity will raise the price on all products produced in the facilities.


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As I said in another thread we had a combined cycle plant (gas turbine) ready to be built in my area the Marcellas shale area.
we have the gas available but the greenies politician’s kill it again they killed another plant where I use to live in 2000


RENOVO, PA – The nearly decade-long effort to locate a natural gas-to-electricity plant in Renovo appears over.

Project developer Bechtel Corporation has withdrawn its support for the billion-dollar proposal, as confirmed through a Friday statement from Mike Flanagan, CEO, the Clinton. County Economic Partnership:

Faced with ongoing appeals from environmental groups , Renovo Energy Center (REC) has decided to discontinue its plan for a $1 billion gas to electric power plant that was to be built in the borough at the former Renovo Industrial Park.

REC informed the Clinton County Economic Partnership of the decision on Thursday, said Partnership President Mike Flanagan, who termed the news as “sad and disappointing.”

REC’s consultants first approached county officials nine years ago. Two years ago, the Clean Air Council, Penn Future and the Center for Biological Diversity filed an appeal against the Department of Environmental Resources and REC over the air quality permit that was approved for the plant. Only until recently did the Pennsylvania Environmental Hearing Board schedule a hearing date on the matter that could have extended into October. The involved parties were recently asked by the environmental hearing judge to discuss settlement talks, but to no avail. Faced with the lack of settlement talks, the project was officially scrapped.

REC’s release, issued Friday, reads as follows: “Renovo Energy Center LLC will discontinue development of the proposed combined-cycle plant in Renovo, Pa. After more than eight years, we do not see a path to a reasonable conclusion of the project’s air permit appeal, and have made the difficult decision to discontinue development. We are grateful to the people of Renovo for the welcome and support of our team has received over the years.”

Flanagan added, “I don’t know what to say other this it is a very sad, frustrating and disappointing day for the Renovo area and Clinton County. I firmly believe that 98% percent of the people living there wanted this project. It would have been such an economic boost to the area during the 30-month construction time frame, and the taxes for the local taking bodies would have helped out. And we would have had a site cleaned up with private funds.

“But the constant delay tactics won out. It’s just a downright shame. REC has been and would have continued to be great for the community, which sorely needed something like this. And the expected end user would have followed through with that community support. We need to thank REC for its large investment over the years in trying to bring this project to Renovo.”

Flanagan thanked Renovo Mayor Gene Bruno, and Renovo Council and Ann Tarantella for their support, as well as the Renovo Community Trade Association, the Clinton County Commissioners, State Rep. Stephanie Borowicz, State Sen. Cris Dush, the Department of Environmental Protection, the Partnership Operating Board and Jim Russo, who was the first one on the ground with the consultants looking for a site. The former railyards was chosen as a potential site because of its proximity to water, natural gas, and the power grids that cross in the area.