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Profanity on television

dzalphakilo

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Watching a show the other night, honestly forgot which one, but I was amazed at how many times people used the "God" word for profanity. What I found intersting was that the words shit, and all "derivitives" sp? of fu#k (I could go into a Geroge Carlin routine on this) were deleted for this movie to be aired on T.V. (of course not a pay for view channel).

Personally, I find using the Lords name in vain to be one of the most profane words to use verbally. I realize some others may not feel the same way, however, if yor going to delete profinity from the show, why not include using God's name?

Yes, I have been known to curse, particularly when a hammer hits my finger by mistake, however, NEVER around my mother:D
 
What is a curse word? To believe curse words have any special meaning, wouldn't you have to believe in curses? Why do certain groupings of consonants and vowels have any more of a meaning that all the other groupings of consonants and vowels? Is the person who says "f*ck" every third word any different than the person who says "ummmm" every third word?

I have decided that the word "pink" is a curse word and is offensive, so....go pink off you pink head.
 
DZ, despite DaveNay's "pink" issues, I tend to agree with you about the language on TV and how it is very inconsistently censored or restrained. There is a kids show called Kyle XY on the "ABC Family" Channel. I figured being on the "Family" channel it must be OK for my 12 year old to watch. Not so. Much of the story line of one episode revolved around a 15 year old girl who was having casual sex with a couple of boys at the school. The word "ass" was used multiple times, in multiple contexts "nice ass" and "are you ready to get your ass kicked" etc.

If it had been a movie, no big deal. But on a kids show, aired in the middle of the afternoon, on the family channel???

It seems to me that overall TV has become much more vulgar and is (boy I sound like a prude) really taking society down with it. When trying to raise kids, and trying to instill some some sense of value and personal worth, it really gets tough when they see/hear some of the stuff that is on TV and it appears to be 'normal' on the show.
 
Is TV bringing down society or is society bringing TV down to it's level? TV is about making money. The shows are picked to be aired are ones that are watched the most. Are we fooling ourselves by thinking that cleaning up TV will also clean up society? TV is a reflection of society at a given point in time. The TV execs that make the most cash are the ones that show shows that the people want to watch.
 
Is TV bringing down society or is society bringing TV down to it's level? TV is about making money. The shows are picked to be aired are ones that are watched the most. Are we fooling ourselves by thinking that cleaning up TV will also clean up society? TV is a reflection of society at a given point in time. The TV execs that make the most cash are the ones that show shows that the people want to watch.
Cleaning up TV will not solve the problems of society. But I don't see TV as a "mirror" of society, rather I see it as something that only mirrors the cutting edge of society from the southern California culture that is not a good mirror of the rest of the nation. It therefore acts to push and influence society as a whole. There is no question that there are also many shows that are produced simply for shock value, shows that push the envelope.
 
Watching a show the other night, honestly forgot which one, but I was amazed at how many times people used the "God" word for profanity.

Maybe they used the lowercase version, "god"

Regardless, there are many words that are used on TV for profanity, such as ass, damn-it, etc. Actually, they should allow anything to be said or done on TV -- I have a thing called a remote control that will actually turn OFF my TV or allow me to change channels if I don't like the content of something.
 
Dave, it would be what I'd call "social standards" that are appropriate for the situation. Curse in a strange language that no one reconizes and compare the reaction to those around you with a word that is reconized
the public you're in, two different reactions. Then again, I could think your a fag with using that "pink my head" line and just want to Mozambique your sorry mother*****n ass to rid the world of a sorry punk ass bitch that you are.

Notice that with no "smiley" after that last sentence, you may not be sure how to take that comment? Same compared to verbal words as to the situation and expression of the person making those comments and how you percieve those words listening to them.

Gatorboy, no shit sherlock. By the way, I have walked out of a movie theater because I've felt the language was uncalled for.

Comedians are probably the best example. Personally, now a days, it takes more skill to tell a "clean joke" than a "dirty joke". Heck. sometimes it seems that the audience is only laughing at a curse word, and not the punch line.

I curse, and can do it pretty well as a matter of fact. However, I can talk to a cousin on the phone, and actually get irritated (sp?) how many times he can say fu*k in a sentence without him even thinking about what he is saying every other word.

My father could swear, however NEVER around my mother, only at me. My mother could swear, but only in Russian so as a child, I'd never understand what she was hollering about:D

I'd haphazzard (sp?) a guess that inteligence (sp?) has an impact on how many "bad words" you use.

I think that people probably cursed as much in the 50's as they do today, but watch a movie from the 50's and listen to the dialect. Not saying its right, however perhaps we tend to look for too much "realism" when it's not there.
 
Dave, it would be what I'd call "social standards" that are appropriate for the situation. Curse in a strange language that no one reconizes and compare the reaction to those around you with a word that is reconized
the public you're in, two different reactions. Then again, I could think your a fag with using that "pink my head" line and just want to Mozambique your sorry mother*****n ass to rid the world of a sorry punk ass bitch that you are.

Actually, that was a semi-serious question on my part. Etymylogically speaking, what makes a swear/curse/profane word any different than all the other words? In the English language there are tens of thousands of words, yet a handful of them have some sort of special power.

Why?
 
Actually, that was a semi-serious question on my part. Etymylogically speaking, what makes a swear/curse/profane word any different than all the other words? In the English language there are tens of thousands of words, yet a handful of them have some sort of special power.

Why?

Spoken like a true Fuktard. :rolf2: :D
 
Actually, that was a semi-serious question on my part. Etymylogically speaking, what makes a swear/curse/profane word any different than all the other words? In the English language there are tens of thousands of words, yet a handful of them have some sort of special power.

Why?

Perhaps the person making the comment is looking for a reaction of some sort from those listening around them, or a means of releasing anger verbally, or perhaps the person making those comments may not realize that those words are "uncalled" for by "social standards". Yes, then I realize the question is what and who determines social standards and who determines what is uncalled for?

My first thought is it would be your parents.

Yes, I do swear, however at least to myself, there is a time and place. On a roof doing work with contractors is one thing, at a dinner table with your wife and friends is another. I would also guess that depending on your work place, swear words may have to be kept to a minimum if you want to keep your job, and this leads me to think that people can be "trained" not to use swear words if the consequences (sp?) are great enough to lose your job over if you need the money. Walmart comes to example. I'd guess you aren't making mega bucks working there, education level on average wouldn't be on "the high side", but how many times do you hear the person at the register ask "is that all the fu*k you want?"

As a child, when I first started hearing some swear words, I thought I'd get into the act. Interesting enough, when I repeated what I had heard my mother say when I knew she was extremely angry (thus they must of been "bad" words), the kids didn't understand Russian, thus I didn't get a reaction from them, they looked at me like I was off the wall (no jokes please), and I found that I didn't use those phrases anymore because they didn't have any effect on those people who could not understand them. I have however found that in some instances now as an adult, that those exact same phrases have come in handy when I use them, because for the most part, no one understands them, and if I say them without expression, you'd have no clue I was cursing.

Have a person who speaks a language you don't understand tell you "Mary had a little lamb" in a soft gentle voice. Have them say the same phrase screaming at you, and although you may have no clue what they are saying per the last example, you may assume they are swearing at you. Why? probably due to facial expressions and tone in their voice.

By the way Dave, I had an idea that your "pink" comment was semi serious (and I've actually used that same example in the past with other words), thus the reason for my overkill, sarcastic comment in response with good ol curse words that I would think you would understand:D
 
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We, the consumers, are who is at fault. Each industry, be it the auto manufacturing, greenhouses, or Tupperware, tailors it's product line according to what sells best. The entertainment industry does the same. If we all turned off the set when a program containing profanity came on, such things would go away, I promise that. Surveys are taken regularly in all venues, be they television or radio. The programming that is most popular with consumers is made apparent and the industry follows that line.
In short: Ultimately it's our (the consumer) fault for gobbling this stuff up.
 
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