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Narrowed down our choices: Motorcycle Trip -or- Hiking across Italy

bczoom

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Are there laws/statutes/regulations on how loud a motorcycle can be? How does that correlate to several ordinances about stereo noise emitting from a vehicle?

Be careful out there. A guy that works for me had to leave early yesterday to attend the funeral of his friend that was killed on his bike due to collision with a car. A young girl driving the car and although the investigation isn't complete, they're saying she may have been texting on her phone.
 

JimVT

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i think seattle put a noise limit on vehicles of all types. so many yards away a certain sound level. i'm not sure about radio sound.
 

Melensdad

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i think seattle put a noise limit on vehicles of all types. so many yards away a certain sound level. i'm not sure about radio sound.

There are various noise limits in various jurisdictions.

Not planning to run anything that is not stock so noise issues should not be any problem from the engine/muffler.

We did talk to the H-D dealership about helmet to helmet communicators. They have tiny speakers in them, as long as you are in range they work as full-duplex communicators. They also sync with your iPhone so you can make phone calls, listen to your playlist, etc. They use voice control, similar to Siri/Alexa to control the units. Can't imagine that could lead to a noise violation!

CARDO Systems seems to make the best units, integrate into the helmets, waterproof, rechargeable, etc.
 

Melensdad

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Bamby I am in TOTAL agreement with you about the "loud pipes" pile of crap.

It is not true.

Its called the "Doppler Effect" and the reality is exactly as you describe it. The sound is behind you, they don't hear you coming, they do hear you leaving!



I hate loud exhaust and personally think it should be illegal, it actually serves no real purpose. C&P on subject:

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know what does help people notice you? Wearing hi-viz gear, adding auxiliary lighting to your bike, and upgrading your horn are all great ways to make your presence known. Not only do they do a better job than an after market exhaust, but they also cost a lot less. I should say that if by some chance you are wearing hi-viz gear, riding with auxiliary lights, using an upgraded horn...


FWIW, the lovely Mrs_Bob already has a Hi-Viz jacket, with level II padding at the elbows, shoulders & back! I'm looking at buying a similar Hi Viz jacket with CE level II armor too. As for Aux lights, those are also planned as are real horns.

Somewhere on the forum is the story of my daughter taking out one of our scooters in the summer and complaining about my rule of 'helmet, plus wearing lace on shoes, long pants/long sleeve shirt' even in the heat of summer. She hit a patch of gravel and slid the scooter on its side at 30mph. Both she and the lovely Mrs_Bob realized at that moment that my safety rules DO make sense.
 

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Melensdad

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Pretty much looking at the month of August, but not narrowed it down any more than that. Probably ride up the East side of Lake Michigan to the top, then follow the go West along the South shore of Superior, up and around and back to the point where the lakes meet at the east end of Superior/northern tip of Michigan. If we decide to continue we will stay in Canada and head east. If we have run into problems, or just don't want to continue then we'll head south along the Western shoreline of Lake Michigan toward Milwaukee, Chicago, and then back home.

Because we didn't know for sure what we were doing with Dasha our Russian fencer we didn't really set any firm plans. Its only been the last week that we finally confirmed that she will be moving to Boston at the end of May, or early June.

Still unsure about Melen for this summer. Hoping for Cummins Diesel in Indianapolis, but she has a firm offer from CISCO Systems in California. That could impact our trip, but probably not much with the likely August timeline.
 

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If you're coming up that way along lake Michigan then down the south shore of lake superior, you might make it in time for the city on the hill music festival. It's a great weekend event the first weekend of August. Outdoor concert that lasts 2 days. This will be our 3rd year going. We're bringing the whole family this time then heading towards sault Michigan where we cross back over and head towards nova Scotia. But as time gets closer, I can provide a few pointers of things to do and see along the north shore. I've done it a few times. If you can make it to that concert, we could meet up. Here's the details http://cityonthehillmusicfest.com/ you have to pass right by it in Duluth Minnesota before heading northeast along the shore.

Canadian eh!!!
 

Melensdad

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Bumped up the motorcycle trip. Leaving late next week. Michigan & Superior for sure. Maybe continue on around the others too? We will see how it all goes. I think we are mostly ready except for some final route planning and uploading the route into the iPhone. So I have work to finish.

Trip dates were moved because we plan to head to California (by airplane) in September)
 

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Have a good trip. Too bad I'll miss you going through. Would have enjoyed showing you around. Our plans changed also from the whole month of August to the last two weeks of july. This was a last minute change for us. We picked something closer than the east coast. 2 and a half week tour rv trip.

Canadian eh!!!
 

Jim_S

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Bumped up the motorcycle trip. Leaving late next week. Michigan & Superior for sure. Maybe continue on around the others too? We will see how it all goes. I think we are mostly ready except for some final route planning and uploading the route into the iPhone. So I have work to finish.

Trip dates were moved because we plan to head to California (by airplane) in September)

Have a good trip. Too bad I'll miss you going through. Would have enjoyed showing you around. Our plans changed also from the whole month of August to the last two weeks of july. This was a last minute change for us. We picked something closer than the east coast. 2 and a half week tour rv trip.

Canadian eh!!!

Hope both of you have a great trip!
 

Melensdad

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Finished the LED light install tonight.

Can you see me now?

There are about 300% more lumens than the minimum legal requirement on each bike. All the luggage boxes are removable so they have weatherproof quick connects to connect them to the bikes.

Amber for turn, red for running and stop.
 

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Bamby

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Aarrrggh, so you are a pirate and you can see them :hammer:

One area that could use some help is when the bikes are parked, especially at night. Some discrete reflective stickers would really help make them stand out even when parked when hit with backup lights in a parking lot let alone headlights.
 

Melensdad

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One area that could use some help is when the bikes are parked, especially at night. Some discrete reflective stickers would really help make them stand out even when parked when hit with backup lights in a parking lot let alone headlights.

Both have 3M reflective stripes on them. They light up pretty well. Just not visible in the pics above because I was trying to show the LEDs and there were no other lights on to illuminate the bikes. But the boxes and bikes have added reflectors.
 
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