My Bloody Wife

[daedong]

I don't know who threw in Health insurance, you were talking about cheating your government and you asked for our opinion and you got it. Next time don't frickin ask if you don't like what you hear

murph

If I'd known you were in the room I wouldn't have asked for your opinion.

 

[Doc]

I used to live in a town where you needed a permit for EVERYTHING! It was horrible. Bureaucracy at it's worst.
Depending on what I saw the chances of being caught, I might very well proceed the way you have Vin.
I'm very lucky now in that permits are not needed for most add ons. Living out in the boon docks has its advantages.

 

[XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq]

ISo why are you building a sub-standard shed? What are the inferior materials you're using? How much extra would it cost to do it right? Is that significantly more than the tax will be? How much will the tax be? If it's just a nuisance for you to have them come out and inspect, can you get your wife/daughter to show them the edifice whilst you make yourself scarce? Stuff like that...

Along those lines, who will pay for the medical care when the sub-standard unapproved shed collapses on you or your wife and you end up in the hospital?

Actually, in the US most people should be more concerned with whether or not their insurance company will cover damage from a collapsed unapproved building than the local building permits. I'm pretty sure if the building is not permitted or built to code then the insurance company may deny coverage and the easiest way to prove something is as close to code as possible is to have a permit.

 

[Doc]

I do believe insurance companies do their own investigation before issuing a policy. The permit allows you to build something. We had a permit to build our house but never had a county inspector come by. However the bank did regular inspections as did the agent of the insurance company insuring the house.

Who knows how they do all this in OZ.....

 

[thcri]

I am in the process of building an implement shed 40'x18' open front. Anyway my wife is going on and on about the fact that I have not summited plans to council. I have no intention of doing such a thing as all it will achieve is an increase in council rates. How do I deal with her blind obedience to bureaucracy?

Your original question.

Murph No one here (in this thread) has advocated free for all.
My view is that private health should be encouraged, those that can afford it should pay. but private cover needs to be easily accessible for all. Health and employment should not be mixed. ( I know this is a US cultural thing but as an outsider I see pitfalls) and one should never be denied cover because of preexisting conditions, where will this led, sorry no cover because you have an X gene



We have problems here with some folks not wanting to join private cover but at least they have to pay a levy. I personally think the levy should be higher than it is for those that earn beyond a certain $.

I don't know what the hell the above had to do with your original question other than the fact you like to stir up the pot all the time.

If I'd known you were in the room I wouldn't have asked for your opinion.

My mistake I didn't have you on ignore Read your original question, I took it as, "Do I lie to the government or should I listen to my wife" If you can't figure out what Bob and I said then maybe listen to this

"Listen to your wife, it seems to me she has more sense than you do in this situation."

If I'd known you were in the room I wouldn't have asked for your opinion.

Now you don't ever have to worry about me ever giving advice again as of right now you are the first to ever make my ignore list.

 

[XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq]

I do believe insurance companies do their own investigation before issuing a policy. The permit allows you to build something. We had a permit to build our house but never had a county inspector come by. However the bank did regular inspections as did the agent of the insurance company insuring the house.

Who knows how they do all this in OZ.....

If you already have the policy and then add the building do you get to assume you have coverage?

 

[Doc]

If you already have the policy and then add the building do you get to assume you have coverage?

That's how it worked for my pole building. They did not come out and look at it. But when I insured my tractor they asked where it would be kept, inside or out. I said in my pole building. Tractor insurance was with the same agent who insured the house. My house policy mentions additional structures, and the agent said the pole building was covered on my original home policy as an 'additional structure'.

Just so happens I had major hail damage last fall. The roof shingles and gutter on both my house and pole building had to be replaced. And one side of the house siding has to be replaced. No problems at all from the insurance company. However, I have not finished out the process yet. My pole barn was reroofed last friday, and they started the house today. Insurance held back a few thousand and said something about depreciation between when the event happened and when I got the work completed. I didn't want the roofing done in winter time and weather here has just recently changed so that it's perfect weather for doing a roof.

 

[fogtender]

Skurka, Thcri, foggy

Please read, don't twist my views again. Read, and if you still don't understand, read it again. Then if you still don't understand, how about asking me a question, not telling me what you think I believe?

You didn't get my response very well... I have no problems in your "Stealing from the Queen" as one may coin a phrase. If you want to build something, then go for it. If they catch you, don't be surprised if there is a penalty down the road, chance one takes.

My point was that you made the statement that didn't like to pay the taxes on it. But in earlier threads you said you like Nationalized Health Care as the way to go... exactly where do you think that money comes from and that was my "Beef" back then.

You can't evade taxes, even at the local level and expect free stuff from the Government on the other end. You either play the game one way or the other, not pick and choose what you want.

I don't want to get a permit for anything I build (and so I live in a place now where I don't have to)

I don't want National Health care because the same folks can't run a simple Post Office, but I do pay for what health coverage that I have.

I don't like to pay taxes, but I have to. And currently, my taxes are giving free health care to lazy slobs than can and don't want to work. A National Health care system will only increase my costs, not save anything or make it better.

Sounds like you have a very sharp wife, pay attention to her... It may keep you out of trouble!

Oh, and if I were to build an "Illegal" building, I certainly wouldn't tell the world about it and post my address.... That is from the "Old Cop" in me, just some free advice!

 

[daedong]

Fogtender, Please read what I have said.

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Originally Posted by daedong
Murph No one here (in this thread) has advocated free for all.
My view is that private health should be encouraged, those that can afford it should pay. but private cover needs to be easily accessible for all. Health and employment should not be mixed. ( I know this is a US cultural thing but as an outsider I see pitfalls) and one should never be denied cover because of preexisting conditions, where will this led, sorry no cover because you have an X gene.

We have problems here with some folks not wanting to join private cover but at least they have to pay a levy. I personally think the levy should be higher than it is for those that earn beyond a certain $.

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Originally Posted by daedong
Thanks for that Bob.

I would have loved to have seen the program. reading that snippet it is truly amazing how many different health systems are out there. On the surface, of the five talked about, Japan seem to have the best system (personal belief). I personally don't like systems that are paid for from taxes, except for those under privileged.I know it goes against the grain of many but compulsory insurance of some sort for those that can afford it is a must. It is simply unfair for the rest of the community to be expected to pay for those that can afford it that chose not to cover themselves. Denial of this fact is being blind, we the community will pay in some way or another.

I know that many of you will state that Japan does not have an alien problem like the USA, granted, but the alien problem has nothing to do with what sort of health system you have as citizens, because you as good people will look after them anyway.

Did anyone watch the program? I'd love to hear your views.

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