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I’m terrified of my new TV: Why I’m scared to turn this thing on — and you’d be, too

Bamby

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I just bought a new TV. The old one had a good run, but after the volume got stuck on 63, I decided it was time to replace it. I am now the owner of a new “smart” TV, which promises to deliver streaming multimedia content, games, apps, social media and Internet browsing. Oh, and TV too.

The only problem is that I’m now afraid to use it. You would be too — if you read through the 46-page privacy policy.

The amount of data this thing collects is staggering. It logs where, when, how and for how long you use the TV. It sets tracking cookies and beacons designed to detect “when you have viewed particular content or a particular email message.” It records “the apps you use, the websites you visit, and how you interact with content.” It ignores “do-not-track” requests as a considered matter of policy.

It also has a built-in camera — with facial recognition. The purpose is to provide “gesture control” for the TV and enable you to log in to a personalized account using your face. On the upside, the images are saved on the TV instead of uploaded to a corporate server. On the downside, the Internet connection makes the whole TV vulnerable to hackers who have demonstrated the ability to take complete control of the machine.

More troubling is the microphone. The TV boasts a “voice recognition” feature that allows viewers to control the screen with voice commands. But the service comes with a rather ominous warning: “Please be aware that if your spoken words include personal or other sensitive information, that information will be among the data captured and transmitted to a third party.” Got that? Don’t say personal or sensitive stuff in front of the TV.

You may not be watching, but the telescreen is listening.

I do not doubt that this data is important to providing customized content and convenience, but it is also incredibly personal, constitutionally protected information that should not be for sale to advertisers and should require a warrant for law enforcement to access.

Unfortunately, current law affords little privacy protection to so-called “third party records,” including email, telephone records, and data stored in “the cloud.” Much of the data captured and transmitted by my new TV would likely fall into this category. Although one federal court of appeals has found this rule unconstitutional with respect to email, the principle remains a bedrock of modern electronic surveillance.

According to retired Gen. David Petraeus, former head of the CIA, Internet-enabled “smart” devices can be exploited to reveal a wealth of personal data. “Items of interest will be located, identified, monitored, and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio-frequency identification, sensor networks, tiny embedded servers, and energy harvester,” he reportedly told a venture capital firm in 2012. “We’ll spy on you through your dishwasher,” read one headline. Indeed, as the “Internet of Things” matures, household appliances and physical objects will become more networked. Your ceiling lights, thermostat and washing machine — even your socks — may be wired to interact online. The FBI will not have to bug your living room; you will do it yourself.

Of course, there is always the “dumb” option. Users may have the ability to disable data collection, but it comes at a cost. The device will not function properly or allow the use of its high-tech features. This leaves consumers with an unacceptable choice between keeping up with technology and retaining their personal privacy.

We should not have to channel surf worried that the TV is recording our behavior for the benefit of advertisers and police. Companies need to become more mindful of consumer privacy when deciding whether to collect personal data. And law enforcement should most certainly be required to get a warrant before accessing it.

In the meantime, I’ll be in the market for a new tinfoil hat and cone of silence.

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I don't know what the true capabilities really are or if this is really exaggerated..... But it does is a way give a person a feeling that God actually could or is watching everything a person does or says... But how God will hold it against us is the next question... :hammer: Will it be just humiliation or something even worse...

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welcome to the 21st century...if you dont want to have all your life documented you best go run to the hills and only take clean underwear.
 
I am not a fan of the new SMART TV sets.

Never bought one. Looked at them when I bought my last set, didn't see that ghe advantages could possibly outweigh the disadvantages.
 
welcome to the 21st century...if you dont want to have all your life documented you best go run to the hills and only take clean underwear.

Guns, ammo, and sundry other survival supplies might be handy; it's hard for a person to feed him/herself in the outback
with only clean underwear! :brows: It might make shelter a bit sketchy as well. :ermm:


 
We picked up a smart TV about a month ago. We use it as a TV (so far) so it doesn't even know the password to the router (yet). I'll be the one setting it up (I hope), so I'll turn off as much as possible (until the kids bitch).
 
One question: Why in the world would you ever read the owners manual?? That chit would scare ya. :eek:
I don't know but I got to think that the video on my TV and someone watching me watching TV would have to be the most boring boring thing ever to watch.

As for the privacy issues, if law enforcement has to get a court order to tap your phone to listen to your calls I can't imagine how any company could be allowed to spy on you without some repercussions just because they said so in the owners manual. But just like your laptop camera a low tech solution is black electrical tape. Put that tape over the camera and Wa-La, they won't see nothing. I suppose you could muffle the mic also once you knew where it was.

I have a smart TV and like it. I enjoy being able to jump to NetFlix, Amazon TV or Hulu without having any other device hooked to my TV, no extra remote etc etc. Is my privacy at risk? I guess so. :hide:
 
I am not a fan of the new SMART TV sets.

Never bought one. Looked at them when I bought my last set, didn't see that ghe advantages could possibly outweigh the disadvantages.

I too did not see the need for a smart TV. I found a great Sony that was dumb and had a great picture. Good enough for me. Bad enough that Comcast has a ton of my personal viewing habits all over their servers. I know they do. :whistling:
 
My smart TV will never be allowed to access the internet. No cable or wireless connection and they can't do anything. Mine does not have the camera in it.
 
Do you all think there is a difference between a smart TV and other devices such as a DVD or Ruku box that also has internet capabilities? I'd think all are what is considered 'smart' devices.
 
Doc, I agree, they are all smart. My concern is that unregulated data gathering is becoming so aggressive that the NSA is starting to pale by comparison. Private companies are just writing the ability to freely share that info as they choose. Do far as the government, all that data is just a FISA court subpoena away.

Don't think you have anything to hide? Think again. The aggregation of collected data can break most anyone.

I want to use the free WiFi at Duncan Donuts till I saw in their terms of service that I was granting them access to almost the entire contents of my cell phone. Ann's they are just a doughnut shop for crying out loud.
 
I avoid all vendor WiFi for just that reason. I have a hotspot built into my phone so I use that. Guess that just gives all the data to AT&T. We really can't win, someone is going to get data from us if we have a presence online.
 
Camera on the TV? Now that would be a show if they hacked into mine if I had one. Me sitting on the recliner in my skivvies, three day beard growth and empty pizza boxes all around. LMAO.
 
Doc - Data has become like crabgrass once the lawn gets a little bit of it it just spreads all over the place.
 
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