EPA set to 'roll back' Automotive Fuel Economy Standards

[Melensdad]

It is no secret that the EPA was hell bent on eliminating GASOLINE and DIESEL driven vehicles.

It now appears that the new administration is going to roll back the EPA mandates to prevent them from wiping out the oil industry and, for all practical purposes, making all new cars Electric Vehicles. Despite a lot of good stuff about EVs, the reality is the utility industry is well behind the demand curve for generating electricity, so pushing all vehicles to EVs, combined with data center and other increased electrical demand, would simply cause energy prices to become unaffordable to many Americans.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/03/trump-fuel-economy-standards.html

Trump administration to announce new fuel economy standards Wednesday​

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The White House will announce new fuel economy standards on Wednesday, according to administration sources. ​

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The Trump administration will propose rolling back the standards implemented by former President Joe Biden last year, sources told Reuters. Biden required passenger cars and light trucks to have a fuel efficiency of about 50 mpg by 2031. ​

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President Donald Trump is scheduled to make an announcement at 2:30 p.m. ET from the Oval Office. Executives from Ford, General Motors and Stellantis are expected to attend the announcement.​

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The Biden fuel efficiency standards were expected to stimulate the sale of electric vehicles in the U.S. Trump has sought to roll back all federal support for EVs since taking office. ​

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The oil industry group the American Petroleum Institute has lobbied the Trump administration to repeal the Biden fuel economy standards, contending that they aim to phase out liquid fuel vehicles. ​

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The Corporate Average Fuel Economy, or CAFE, standards date back to 1975 and have been tightened over the years to make vehicles more efficient. ​

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Stellantis CEO Antonio Filosa, who is expected to be in attendance at the White House, said in a statement that the automaker “appreciates the Trump Administration’s actions to re-align the Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards with real world market conditions as part of its wider vision for a growing U.S. automotive industry.”​

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— CNBC’s Michael Wayland contributed to this report.​

 

[waybomb]

Fire anybody in the EPA that was involved in these standards. Their mindset is just wrong.

 

[Melensdad]

Fire anybody in the EPA that was involved in these standards. Their mindset is just wrong.

Understand that the EPA was taken over by the climate change advocates during the Obama and Biden terms. Started during the Clinton/Gore term. Bush did nothing to slow them down, they were engrained at that point. Trump #45 was so embattled under lawsuits and administrators in agencies that were subversive he got nothing done.

Now under Trump #47, with loyalists in place, things are getting done. Or un-done, if they were bad ideas. Red tape is getting cut. Regulations rolling back that would have turned us into a 3rd world country. We are embarking on an "all of the above" energy policy that will lead to innovation through creative thought, rather than mandated through regulation.

 

[FrancSevin]

After throwing off the shackles of British rule, Our colonist economy exploded under the original Constitutional government with few regulations. We went from 99% rural agriculture to the greatest industrial economy on the world withing 60 years of our founding. Then cam 1908 and Democratic control of the Gubmit. Aside from the worst economic depression ever they brought us two world wars, Social Security and a population comfortable with the belief that our government could and should control and supply everything.
The results of that show in the threadbare life most Americans now see or many suffer.

Social security rips 15% of a workers paycheck every payday. Then annually we pay income taxes on the same gross amount. The mor succes we earn with our paycheck, the larger the scope of that income is taken. Now we have 40% of the population dependent on the Gubmit just to eat.

Great job guys!

It is time we resort to a government keen on the success of business, industry and the common people over the success of controlling them.

 

[m1west]

After throwing off the shackles of British rule, Our colonist economy exploded under the original Constitutional government with few regulations. We went from 99% rural agriculture to the greatest industrial economy on the world withing 60 years of our founding. Then cam 1908 and Democratic control of the Gubmit. Aside from the worst economic depression ever they brought us two world wars, Social Security and a population comfortable with the belief that our government could and should control and supply everything.
The results of that show in the threadbare life most Americans now see or many suffer.

Social security rips 15% of a workers paycheck every payday. Then annually we pay income taxes on the same gross amount. The mor succes we earn with our paycheck, the larger the scope of that income is taken. Now we have 40% of the population dependent on the Gubmit just to eat.

Great job guys!

It is time we resort to a government keen on the success of business, industry and the common people over the success of controlling them.

Actually the employee pays 6.5% and the employer pays the other half

 

[Crumpy]

Actually the employee pays 6.5% and the employer pays the other half

Technically, yes. It is 15.3%. (7.65% each) We were in business for 35 years and paid the other half. It is part of the total cost of an employee. If it did not need to be paid to the government, it could have been paid to the employee. Whenever an employee was given a raise, we had to calculate what they actually cost per hour. Many people do not realize that the employer pays out so much more on their behalf. SS tax, unemployment tax, work comp insurance, incidentals that they use up as part of their employment. Each time their hourly rate went up, the taxes and insurance went up also.

 

[FrancSevin]

Actually the employee pays 6.5% and the employer pays the other half

I hear that BS a lot. That you, and so many others, believe that deceit is what bothers me the most.

As a former employer, let me explain. The employee's full paycheck cost to me, the employer, is what I must pay as a cost per unit of produced goods and services. I must remove some of it for income taxes, and for Social Security taxes (which is what they actually & legally are). What a shame I cannot give it to the employee whose efforts provided my ability to sell my company's services and products.

Or this;
Don't make the sly comment that employers would just keep it. Labor is a competitive part of any business. You must compete for employees which is a cost, and at the same time be competitive in the market just as your competitors. The playing field is level yes, and we must all siphon off an equal share for the Gubmit. But it is a cost we must direct to that government exactly the same a payroll taxes.
If everyone of my competitors pocketed the money, maybe you would be right. But most would take advantage of lowering prices because it would be a competitive edge.

And it is 15% in total of the employees efforts for which they get to take nothing home. What we have here is a deceitful act of mislabeling of a compulsory tax for a benefit program of which not all employees will be able to receive. What's funny is many low salary people say they don't pay "income tax." Yes, they do at a flat rate of 15%. No exceptions.

Do you get it yet???

We all pay taxes, so the roads are built, the police, military and fire are present, Schools and such, and we get all those services. Social Security is a light at the end of a tunnel not everyone reaches. But not everyone who toils for wages must pay. This whether they get to 65 years or not.

 

[m1west]

I hear that BS a lot. That you, and so many others, believe that deceit is what bothers me the most.

As a former employer, let me explain. The employee's full paycheck cost to me, the employer, is what I must pay as a cost per unit of produced goods and services. I must remove some of it for income taxes, and for Social Security taxes (which is what they actually & legally are). What a shame I cannot give it to the employee whose efforts provided my ability to sell my company's services and products.

Or this;
Don't make the sly comment that employers would just keep it. Labor is a competitive part of any business. You must compete for employees which is a cost, and at the same time be competitive in the market just as your competitors. The playing field is level yes, and we must all siphon off an equal share for the Gubmit. But it is a cost we must direct to that government exactly the same a payroll taxes.
If everyone of my competitors pocketed the money, maybe you would be right. But most would take advantage of lowering prices because it would be a competitive edge.

And it is 15% in total of the employees efforts for which they get to take nothing home. What we have here is a deceitful act of mislabeling of a compulsory tax for a benefit program of which not all employees will be able to receive. What's funny is many low salary people say they don't pay "income tax." Yes, they do at a flat rate of 15%. No exceptions.

Do you get it yet???

We all pay taxes, so the roads are built, the police, military and fire are present, Schools and such, and we get all those services. Social Security is a light at the end of a tunnel not everyone reaches. But not everyone who toils for wages must pay. This whether they get to 65 years or not.

I just retired from being an employer for 25 years, I paid all of mine and half of everyone else’s, I should be getting a bigger SS payout just for that.

 

[tiredretired]

Someone told Biden yesterday that Trump just changed the CAFE standards with an Executive Order. He responded "I wish Donald had never done that, I love eating in small cozy restaurants."