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Democrats urge ABC to withdraw 9/11 movie

Has anyone seen any "massive demonstrations" against the ABC documentary The Path to 9/11?

I ask this quesiton only because I have tend to read international papers and found this in the British paper The Herald. The Sunday Herald states that there have been massive protests??? It also states something I have not seen other places. It says that ABC refused to provide Clinton with a preview but did provide copies to many other politicians??? This is only the first portion of the article.
http://www.sundayherald.com/print57867
Sunday Herald - 10 September 2006
BBC caught up in row over 9/11 programme
By Jenifer Johnston

The BBC
was last night standing by its decision to broadcast controversial docudrama The Path To 9/11, despite massive protests in the US denouncing the American-produced series as “right-wing propaganda”.

The two-part drama is due to be shown tonight and tomorrow evening on BBC Two.

It depicts events in the US leading up to the terrorist attacks of 2001, but the decision to mix evidence given to the official 9/11 Commission with dramatic embellishments have drawn condemnation for the programme from the Democratic party, former president Bill Clinton, the star of the drama Harvey Keitel and more than 200,000 Democratic supporters.

On Friday, US broadcaster ABC, which has spent around $40 million on the production, reacted to the criticism by saying last-minute edits were under way. And a spokeswoman for the BBC defended the decision to go ahead with the broadcast, by saying: “The BBC are broadcasting the Path To 9/11 as planned. We will be showing the same version as is shown in the US.”

Yesterday advisors for former US president Bill Clinton continued their attacks on the decision to broadcast the programme, which will be shown in two parts tonight and tomorrow both in the UK and the US.

It alleges that he was consumed in the Monica Lewinsky affair and did not concentrate on the the growing terrorist threat to the US.

Clinton, who was denied access to an advance copy of the programme despite it being shown to a range of other politicians, instructed his lawyers to write to ABC boss Bob Iger demanding that the programme be dropped completely. They wrote: “We remain concerned about the false impression that airing the show will leave on the public.

“The Path To 9/11 calls into question the accuracy of the 9/11 Commission’s report and whether fabricated scenes are, in fact, an accurate portrayal of history.

“Indeed, the millions spent on the production of this fictional drama would have been better spent informing the public about the commission’s actual findings.”

Clinton has called the programme “factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate”, while former secretary of state Madeline Albright has also called for it to be scrapped, saying that one scene depicting her in the programme – which she admits she has not seen – was false and defamatory.

Joining the clamour for changes in the mini-series was star Harvey Keitel, who said he accepted the role of FBI counter -terrorism expert John O’Neill under the premise the story was to be told as “history”.

“It turned out not all the facts were correct,” the actor said, speaking to an American television station. “You can’t put things together, compress them, and then distort the reality … You cannot cross the line from conflation of events to a distortion of the event.”

On Friday, the Democratic Party gave ABC a petition with more than 200,000 signatories on it, demanding that the drama was re-edited.
 
Clinton dropped the ball on terrorism no matter how some may sugar coat it. The "Path to 9/11" will be accurate due now to 2 Clinton aides having admitted such and the BJ got priority!
 
The History Channel today had a program that traced the steps of Bin Laden from the beginning through the Clinton Administration. I didn't get to see the entire program, but what I did see seemed to show that there was a lot of holding back because they didn't want to risk collateral damage of innocent lives....
 
The show is airing now! :a1:

I hear it will be shown unedited. Check you folks later...going to watch.

Hey Don - Turn up your hearing aid and check it out! :thumb:

 
Not very flattering to Berger (ah, let me think), Albreight (snitch brown noser) and Clinton playing possum; pretty much what we already knew.

It won't work waiting for innocents not to be around in order to nab them. We could of course invite them to dinner for some light hearted debate............:pat:
 
Big Dog said:
We could of course invite them to dinner for some light hearted debate............:pat:

Yea, thats it..... Then we can call them stupid for not seeing things our way and they will change their ways..:a1: ...:yankchain:
 
OK folks, the first part of the show was last night. I was able to watch the majority of it and thought it was pretty good. There were a couple shots where President Clinton was tied to Monica Lewinski or where he denied the affair. Those were very brief. Overall I thought the show was pretty plausable.

I'm in Las Vegas tonight so I may not be able to catch the second half of the show (and forgot to set the tape player at home) so I am curious what you folks all thought about the first 1/2 and will be curious to see at least part of the second half.

Honestly, at least based on what I have seen so far, I see no reason why the Democrats are so upset. Yes, there were scenes showing missed opportunities, but they also showed a concern for collateral damage. Given the time frame of the events, honestly I don't see too much wrong with that. Looking back we can lay all sorts of blame, but honestly I can understand why collateral damage was considered. Also there were a couple scenes where there was major indecision by President Clinton and were there was concern by security advisors about the indecision. Those things are documented in other interviews, so I expect that even if they are not perfectly accurate, I expect they are pretty close to the truth.

What say you all?

BTW . . . if you get a chance to stay at the Ritz Carlton~Lake Las Vegas resort you should do it. Its miles away from the city, which is a nice thing! Very beautiful, very nice, and very relaxed. I come to Vegas a few times a year and have really gotten tired of the city, this is a nice change of pace. I'm in between board meetings, this is a view from the room.
 

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Watching National Geographics "Inside 9/11:Zero Hour" now and I'm wondering how could anyone want to deal with Islamic-Facist in a reasonable manner or worry about colateral damage after what they did. Those that harbor terrorist are just as guilty. Makes me want to puke that there are people that want to try and reason with these animals.
 
B_Skurka said:
Honestly, at least based on what I have seen so far, I see no reason why the Democrats are so upset. Yes, there were scenes showing missed opportunities, but they also showed a concern for collateral damage. Given the time frame of the events, honestly I don't see too much wrong with that. Looking back we can lay all sorts of blame, but honestly I can understand why collateral damage was considered. Also there were a couple scenes where there was major indecision by President Clinton and were there was concern by security advisors about the indecision. Those things are documented in other interviews, so I expect that even if they are not perfectly accurate, I expect they are pretty close to the truth.

What say you all?

I agree with your assesment Bob. Being the suspicious type, I wonder if ABC didn't give out copies with much more objectionable scenes, baiting the Dems for the sake of publicity. If they did it sure worked. I never would have watched as much of it as I did if they did not have the publicity which caused the discussion here.
 
I thought it pretty much sucked overall. Poor acting. Very amaturish. No wonder ABC showed the preview with the damaging parts about Slick Willie and the dems to get them stirred up for the publicity it created. Some parts were OK, but overall - two thumbs down.
 
I watched more of the 2nd night than the first ....but I had the opposite reaction to CB. I thought it was informative. It did not show either side in a good light, other than the guys trying to keep track of the terrorists. Both R's and D's had decisions shown that in hindsight were not the best decision. Condi took a couple hits last night, while acting for Bush as Security Advisor.
Overall, it had no big surprises. I thought it showed very well the madness of what we are up against. The general (or whatever his title was) in afganistan provided key information. We were not able to process it to our best interests. I would rate it 3 thumbs up. It was one of the better "made for TV movies" I've seen.
 
All I can say is "OOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the bureaucracy" ......:puke1:

The interest wasn't protecting the nation .................

It was all politically motivated and saving face!
 
I was referring to the overall quality of the production and the entertainment value. Sure, it was informative to a point, but it just was not a very well done project to me. I wound up not watching the entire show, and missed a lot of the first night. I did not see Clinton and the left take much of a hit at all, but Doc is correct about the hit to Condi. Best I could tell, they hit her the hardest. People who dislike Condi probably enjoyed that scene. I'll have to check out DU.com to see what the left thought about it.

The best scene to me was when the terrorists assasinated the Northern Alliance leader while disguised as a camera crew. That was a well thought out and planned scene. That was brutal and realistic, but the rest was pretty tame.

There were some other Ok parts, but I doubt there will be demand for a second showing of this "B" grade production. The Presidents speech that cut in in the middle of the show was more entertaining and informative than the show was.

The History channel could have done a far better job than ABC.

And Doc....where'd you get that third thumb?:confused2:
 
Doc said:
I watched more of the 2nd night than the first ....but I had the opposite reaction to CB. I thought it was informative. It did not show either side in a good light, other than the guys trying to keep track of the terrorists. Both R's and D's had decisions shown that in hindsight were not the best decision. Condi took a couple hits last night, while acting for Bush as Security Advisor.
Overall, it had no big surprises. I thought it showed very well the madness of what we are up against. The general (or whatever his title was) in afganistan provided key information. We were not able to process it to our best interests. I would rate it 3 thumbs up. It was one of the better "made for TV movies" I've seen.


I agree with Doc on this one... While CB is right about the overall quality, it was a very informative(mostly realistic) piece... I think it should be aired again, maybe in a more convinient timeframe.. I understand why they played it when they did, but if it were played at 8pm over several nights it would get more attention..

:pat: I'm watching this group of nuts now on the Detroit news channel that is claiming(and protesting(?)) that 9/11 was staged by the US,:wtf: Everyone's entitled to an opinion I guess.........
 
Cityboy said:
The best scene to me was when the terrorists assasinated the Northern Alliance leader while disguised as a camera crew. That was a well thought out and planned scene. That was brutal and realistic, but the rest was pretty tame.

I agree that scene was brutal. I knew it was coming but it still made me cringe. The WTC scenes appeared to be the real thing. Those were hard to take. All those firefighters going in was hard to watch knowing what was coming.
 
Well I missed all of last night. I caught a few bits on the History Channel yesterday between meetings but not much more.

So I'm wondering what I missed. But the first night did not seem to be overtly political to me and I thought it was reasonably well done and informative. Based on the first night, and what I read here, the second night continued the theme, it seems like the guys in the intellegence really tried, the bureaucrats above them seemed be interested in their jobs, the politicians above them often seemed to be overly cautious. And I think that applies to both parties. Clinton did seem to be indecisive. I obvously missed the parts about Condi and Bush and how they reacted.
 
We actually watched both parts. I thought is was pretty good. You can tell that Richard Clarke was involved in writing it since his character always looked like he was the "good guy" and everybody other than John O'Neil was just a political hack.

I think the movie did a good job of showing both administration's weaknesses and did an excellent job of summarizing how much work needs to be done if we truly want to prevent another attack.

I'll give it a thumbs up. It was pretty good for a TV movie and the fact that it had no commercials wasn't bad either!
 
PBinWA said:
the fact that it had no commercials wasn't bad either!
I fell asleep during the first night.
Didn't catch the beginning of the 2nd night but noticed it ended at something weird like 10:37.
I wonder if they edited out another 23 minutes?
 
It ended at 10:17 due to the speech by the President.
 
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