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The cabin remodel
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tiredretired
The Old Salt
Looking good. I would like to add that it is not code to put anything in front of an electrical panel like you have pictured. Just saying, not trying to be a pain in the ass. 
That is going to be a helluva cabin. It already is actually.
That is going to be a helluva cabin. It already is actually.I’ll have to check that out, always been instructed in the industrial setting that nothing can be directly in front of the panel door closer than 36”, maybe different for homes, but I’m off grid and nothing gets inspected out here, the zoning allows the building of structures but not subject to any code or inspections.Looking good. I would like to add that it is not code to put anything in front of an electrical panel like you have pictured. Just saying, not trying to be a pain in the ass.
tiredretired
The Old Salt
For years it was always standard procedure to put the 45KVA transformer directly under the 480/277 panel that feeds the 120/208 panel. Suddenly, one day the new NEC came out and it was a no no.
Is that the same NEC that cannot determine whether to put the ground plug on a duplex up or down?For years it was always standard procedure to put the 45KVA transformer directly under the 480/277 panel that feeds the 120/208 panel. Suddenly, one day the new NEC came out and it was a no no.
tiredretired
The Old Salt
Is that the same NEC that cannot determine whether to put the ground plug on a duplex up or down?
Yep, same one. Also the same one that insists on all those arc fault breakers that cause so many call backs for the romex jerkers who wire houses.
tiredretired
The Old Salt
Well there is that and also working on a live panel there is that big hunk of grounded metal that can ruin your day if one is dumb enough to get hung up. Please, don't ask me how I know.
You do realize that I’m off grid on solar with an inverter that can be turned off in one second, I don’t work in hot panels, even at home I turn the power off at the main breaker. Zero chance of getting zapped that way and up here I’m just with the dog and pretty sure his first aid card is expired.Well there is that and also working on a live panel there is that big hunk of grounded metal that can ruin your day if one is dumb enough to get hung up. Please, don't ask me how I know.
That’s correct, I don’t take chances with electricity ( I don’t work on hot wires) or take chances with fire ( never burn outside unless it’s raining or a lot of snow on the ground) those two things I never chance. If flipping a breaker don’t fix it, the main power turns off and verified off, before I go into a panel. Up here on the mountain emergency help is a long way away and the gps will not get them here.
Many years ago, my dad was wiring my basement bedroom. I had built it with my own money and did a pretty goo job but he insisted on "teaching" me how to wire a wall plug and a light fixture. He was doing the light fixture, standing on a short, wooden stepladder, and working with the power "ON." At 13 years old I knew that was dangerous, so I asked him why?
He explained that so long as he only touched one wire at a time, it was safe. To prove it he touched one black wire, and nothing happened.
Then he convinced me to touch the same wire. Nervously I slowly let my hand creep up to that ominous, exposed copper extending beyond the black plastic sheathing,,,, and got ,,,knocked on my ass.
Apparently, using the adjacent drainpipe for balance was not recommended in the instructions.
I have never worked on live circuits since.
Not sure I ever trusted my dad again either.
He explained that so long as he only touched one wire at a time, it was safe. To prove it he touched one black wire, and nothing happened.
Then he convinced me to touch the same wire. Nervously I slowly let my hand creep up to that ominous, exposed copper extending beyond the black plastic sheathing,,,, and got ,,,knocked on my ass.
Apparently, using the adjacent drainpipe for balance was not recommended in the instructions.
I have never worked on live circuits since.
Not sure I ever trusted my dad again either.
First photo bare wood, second is with one coat of spar urethane varnish oil base, the oil base darkens the wood some and gives it the golden tone, while bringing out the grain and knots. The look I want will require 4-6 coats, one coat took 40 man hours to complete, next spring I will sand with 220 and do another then repeat the process. Spar urethane is a marine product and will last more than 30 years and will be easy to keep clean and maintain.
My cabin neighbor got extremely lucky I made that trip , he bought a 40’ container and had it delivered. The plan was to come down my driveway from the forest road down to Dave’s place the continue down golden lane and out. They passed my place around 2pm, a half hour later I got asked for help. What happened was that on the last 300’ there was a tight corner where the trailer slid off the road and the hillside is a 40 degree slope and when the truck tried to advance it just slid further, then the truck got stuck.
Dave made a video and put it on YouTube “ shipping container rescue” by David Howard. Had to first drag it off the trailer uphill, pull the truck out then drag the container down the driveway, the next day we placed it in the spot he wanted, but not without him getting attacked by hornets. In all it was a couple hours and some diesel, but if I had not been there it would have been thousands for a service to do it, or it would have still been there in the spring.