fogtender
Now a Published Author
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The Jesus bed connection.
- Thread starter alanejackson
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Amen!
NorthernRedneck
Well-known member
Hey everyone! I think I may have found one of his "followers/beleivers" I guess there is some truth to the message being made here.
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alanejackson
Banned
My thanks to all that have helped in the sharing of this important info!
I think you have helped make our lives much better understood by learning and sharing about Jesus working toward getting everyone in beds.
But some still;
Genesis 49:4 Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch.
I think you have helped make our lives much better understood by learning and sharing about Jesus working toward getting everyone in beds.
But some still;
Genesis 49:4 Unstable as water, thou shalt not excel; because thou wentest up to thy father's bed; then defiledst thou it: he went up to my couch.
alanejackson
Banned
OLD TESTAMENT:
Sticks and stones will brake my bones,
but words will never hurt me.
NEW TESTAMENT:
Sticks and stones will brake our bones,
but words can only help us.
If words are tools;
Have you ever been shown a tool, and were asked, what
do you think this tool is, was, or could be used for?
Thus: With the right tools you can do anything!
Thus: In the beginning/plans,
Thus: In the plans you are educated about the tools,
but the tools are in the form of words,
and the words can form a image,
if they have a mind too.
2 Samuel 4:11 How much more, when wicked men have slain a righteous person in his own house upon his bed? shall I not therefore now require his blood of your hand, and take you away from the earth?
Sticks and stones will brake my bones,
but words will never hurt me.
NEW TESTAMENT:
Sticks and stones will brake our bones,
but words can only help us.
If words are tools;
Have you ever been shown a tool, and were asked, what
do you think this tool is, was, or could be used for?
Thus: With the right tools you can do anything!
Thus: In the beginning/plans,
Thus: In the plans you are educated about the tools,
but the tools are in the form of words,
and the words can form a image,
if they have a mind too.
2 Samuel 4:11 How much more, when wicked men have slain a righteous person in his own house upon his bed? shall I not therefore now require his blood of your hand, and take you away from the earth?
rback33
Hangin in Tornado Alley
alanejackson
Banned
Over time, we see this.
Through the study of old stories, Jesus was able to recognize that the Jewish faith was based on deriving benefits from the use of the Germ Theory of Disease. A degree of devotion toward understanding allowed Jesus to see that the Jewish leaders had only the words, and not the meaning, to a way of life, which had grown as passed from generation to generation.
With history recording that from time to time someone would gain an understanding from the records, and add a ritual to the lives of its people, Jesus realized that he was now the one for whom all was saved. He went to work using what he had learned from the force that guided the Jewish people, and directed their daily lives. The Jewish people didn't like the idea of sharing their practices, their faith, that which gave them better health then the others around them. But history showed Jesus that even the Jewish people would gain a health advantage, (through lack of exposure), when all peoples practiced "THE GERM THEORY OF DISEASE.
2 Kings 1:16 And he said unto him, Thus saith the Lord, Forasmuch as thou hast sent messengers to enquire of Baalzebub the god of Ekron, is it not because there is no God in Israel to enquire of his word? therefore thou shalt not come down off that bed on which thou art gone up, but shalt surely die.
Through the study of old stories, Jesus was able to recognize that the Jewish faith was based on deriving benefits from the use of the Germ Theory of Disease. A degree of devotion toward understanding allowed Jesus to see that the Jewish leaders had only the words, and not the meaning, to a way of life, which had grown as passed from generation to generation.
With history recording that from time to time someone would gain an understanding from the records, and add a ritual to the lives of its people, Jesus realized that he was now the one for whom all was saved. He went to work using what he had learned from the force that guided the Jewish people, and directed their daily lives. The Jewish people didn't like the idea of sharing their practices, their faith, that which gave them better health then the others around them. But history showed Jesus that even the Jewish people would gain a health advantage, (through lack of exposure), when all peoples practiced "THE GERM THEORY OF DISEASE.
2 Kings 1:16 And he said unto him, Thus saith the Lord, Forasmuch as thou hast sent messengers to enquire of Baalzebub the god of Ekron, is it not because there is no God in Israel to enquire of his word? therefore thou shalt not come down off that bed on which thou art gone up, but shalt surely die.
alanejackson
Banned
"HIGHER THOUGHTS"
or
History (not religion).
In order to gain the fullest understanding from what is about to be shared, one must keep these basic principles in mind.
A) The growth of vocabulary leads to more complex thought.
B) God = That which is educational.
C) The God of Moses and Jesus was not like the god Zeus.
The term God was used by Moses and Jesus to describe the effects that words have in our lives. The term, "That which is educational", can be used whenever the term God has been used, and be of great help when trying to gain an understanding from recorded history. This concept is not new, just updated a little. It is the same as saying, "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God".
Understanding that the word was God, allows you to use the term "the word" in place of the term "God". Thus, "and the word was with the word", God was with God, meaning, the meaning of the word is God as well. The term, "That which is educational", allows for both "The word", and "Its meaning", to be referred too. What John was doing with the statement, "In the beginning...", was guiding people to see that Moses and Jesus were serving words and there meanings. Which today, since the growth of vocabulary offers more complex thought, can be better understood today as, Moses and Jesus were serving "That which is educational".
These Words should not be changed in the original form. To do so would make the growth of vocabulary less evident.
Ref:A, In the wilderness the Israelites were plagued by fiery serpents. They were probably so called from the intense burning pain of their bite.
The brazen serpent was made by Moses at the command of God to heal those who were so troubled. This was preserved till the time of Hezekiah, when it was destroyed because it had become an object of worship.
(From: CRUDEN'S COMPLETE CONCORDANCE. 1977, page 582. Zondervan books).
Ref:B, He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it; and he called it Nehushtan. (From: The Holy Bible, King James Version. 2 Kings 18:4).
2 Kings 4:21 And she went up, and laid him on the bed of the man of God, and shut the door upon him, and went out.
or
History (not religion).
In order to gain the fullest understanding from what is about to be shared, one must keep these basic principles in mind.
A) The growth of vocabulary leads to more complex thought.
B) God = That which is educational.
C) The God of Moses and Jesus was not like the god Zeus.
The term God was used by Moses and Jesus to describe the effects that words have in our lives. The term, "That which is educational", can be used whenever the term God has been used, and be of great help when trying to gain an understanding from recorded history. This concept is not new, just updated a little. It is the same as saying, "In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God".
Understanding that the word was God, allows you to use the term "the word" in place of the term "God". Thus, "and the word was with the word", God was with God, meaning, the meaning of the word is God as well. The term, "That which is educational", allows for both "The word", and "Its meaning", to be referred too. What John was doing with the statement, "In the beginning...", was guiding people to see that Moses and Jesus were serving words and there meanings. Which today, since the growth of vocabulary offers more complex thought, can be better understood today as, Moses and Jesus were serving "That which is educational".
These Words should not be changed in the original form. To do so would make the growth of vocabulary less evident.
Ref:A, In the wilderness the Israelites were plagued by fiery serpents. They were probably so called from the intense burning pain of their bite.
The brazen serpent was made by Moses at the command of God to heal those who were so troubled. This was preserved till the time of Hezekiah, when it was destroyed because it had become an object of worship.
(From: CRUDEN'S COMPLETE CONCORDANCE. 1977, page 582. Zondervan books).
Ref:B, He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it; and he called it Nehushtan. (From: The Holy Bible, King James Version. 2 Kings 18:4).
2 Kings 4:21 And she went up, and laid him on the bed of the man of God, and shut the door upon him, and went out.
Jim_S
Gone But Not Forgotten
This is so cool not seeing what he replies. As someone said a LONG time back, seeing others replies to his replies is where the fun is. I DO wonder what drivel he replied back with, but not enough to in unblock him.
I've enjoyed the thread much more since I blocked Alane.
alanejackson
Banned
New century resolution.
or
Like the brake-up of AT+T.
Moses was sent for. He returned to Egypt. The Israelites began a long journey. It was pretty much a military operation, where people were formed into groups. The groups were assigned different tasks, and each group had guide posts that the members of a group would associate themselves with. This is still used today as a method of organizing large numbers of people.
As the Israelites traveled around in the wilderness, problems arose, and people were assigned the task of dealing with them. Time past, the occurrence of snake bite finally worked itself to a position of importance, to were it was something that the Israelites could allocate some of its resources to. A group was formed to deal with this health problem, because the lifestyle of each Israelite was built around a specific task, which was deemed necessary to the well being of the overall group. Thus, most people were needed at there daily tasks, to busy to stop what they were doing and look into ways of dealing with the problem of snake bite.
The group which was assigned the task of dealing with snake bite, had the brasen serpent as their mascot. The members of this group were known to all others by this symbol, and the Israelites began to look to the brasen serpent for help in health matters, and were given a form of insurance, represented by the image of the brazen serpent.
"That which was educational, was not given its rightful place"
Time past some more, and the size of the many different groups increased as the population of the Israelites did. For the Israelites, the task of staying alive in the wilderness had change to that of building a permanently located community. The need to grow and advance became not so obvious, and what we call politics, the self-serving goals of the many groups, had begun to take root within society.
The original intent was that the different groups would be afforded the study time in which they could seek understanding in their particular field, and then share the knowledge obtained with everyone. This would allow, or uphold, a personal relationship between each person and "that which is educational", (God).
When Hezekiah came on the scene, he became aware that the many monopolies were keeping the people dependant on them through the control of the knowledge that they were in possession of, that the people were in need of. New ideas were playing a roll in politics rather then the lives of all peoples. Hezekiah recognized this as to be hindering the growth of his people, his ability to lead the people in the way "that which is educational", (God), showed him they should go.
The term destroyed, (in Ref:A), is incorrect, and has been misleading, helping history to repeat itself. Hezekiah did not destroy the medical community, but broke it in pieces, took away some of its power over the people. Hezekiah saw that the Israelites were suffering from the bite of the brasen serpent. His diagnosis and prescription has been recorded for future use. Thank "that which is educational", for we are in need of this prescription now, again. The brasen serpent has again gotting out of hand. And there it presents a clear danger to all.
Job 7:13 When I say, My bed shall comfort me, my couch shall ease my complaint;
Job 17:13 If I wait, the grave is mine house: I have made my bed in the darkness.
or
Like the brake-up of AT+T.
Moses was sent for. He returned to Egypt. The Israelites began a long journey. It was pretty much a military operation, where people were formed into groups. The groups were assigned different tasks, and each group had guide posts that the members of a group would associate themselves with. This is still used today as a method of organizing large numbers of people.
As the Israelites traveled around in the wilderness, problems arose, and people were assigned the task of dealing with them. Time past, the occurrence of snake bite finally worked itself to a position of importance, to were it was something that the Israelites could allocate some of its resources to. A group was formed to deal with this health problem, because the lifestyle of each Israelite was built around a specific task, which was deemed necessary to the well being of the overall group. Thus, most people were needed at there daily tasks, to busy to stop what they were doing and look into ways of dealing with the problem of snake bite.
The group which was assigned the task of dealing with snake bite, had the brasen serpent as their mascot. The members of this group were known to all others by this symbol, and the Israelites began to look to the brasen serpent for help in health matters, and were given a form of insurance, represented by the image of the brazen serpent.
"That which was educational, was not given its rightful place"
Time past some more, and the size of the many different groups increased as the population of the Israelites did. For the Israelites, the task of staying alive in the wilderness had change to that of building a permanently located community. The need to grow and advance became not so obvious, and what we call politics, the self-serving goals of the many groups, had begun to take root within society.
The original intent was that the different groups would be afforded the study time in which they could seek understanding in their particular field, and then share the knowledge obtained with everyone. This would allow, or uphold, a personal relationship between each person and "that which is educational", (God).
When Hezekiah came on the scene, he became aware that the many monopolies were keeping the people dependant on them through the control of the knowledge that they were in possession of, that the people were in need of. New ideas were playing a roll in politics rather then the lives of all peoples. Hezekiah recognized this as to be hindering the growth of his people, his ability to lead the people in the way "that which is educational", (God), showed him they should go.
The term destroyed, (in Ref:A), is incorrect, and has been misleading, helping history to repeat itself. Hezekiah did not destroy the medical community, but broke it in pieces, took away some of its power over the people. Hezekiah saw that the Israelites were suffering from the bite of the brasen serpent. His diagnosis and prescription has been recorded for future use. Thank "that which is educational", for we are in need of this prescription now, again. The brasen serpent has again gotting out of hand. And there it presents a clear danger to all.
Job 7:13 When I say, My bed shall comfort me, my couch shall ease my complaint;
Job 17:13 If I wait, the grave is mine house: I have made my bed in the darkness.
alanejackson
Banned
> Whoever thought the Bible would become the new PDR? (
> Physicians desk reference)
Whoever really studied the words in the Bible.
> Physicians desk reference)
Whoever really studied the words in the Bible.
California
Charter Member
DaveNay
Klaatu barada nikto
You might have better luck studying the sentences. Words by themselves are pretty meaningless.
You haven't.. you use the word of the Lord for your own convoluted, wild- imaginative ramblings..
Tractors4u
Active member
Your study of the Bible is about as accurate as saying c-a-t spells dog.
http://www.hipforums.com/forums/oldindex.php
Hey Alan, check this place out.. all the stoners would love you there, I'm sure.
You'd have a captivated audience of believers.
Hey Alan, check this place out.. all the stoners would love you there, I'm sure.
You'd have a captivated audience of believers.
NorthernRedneck
Well-known member
American Woman
Banned
This is so much more fun without Allne in the middle!
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rback33
Hangin in Tornado Alley
This is so much more fun without Allne in the middle!
I knew you would join us on the dark side!
alanejackson
Banned
With Child
Or
Connecting the Dots
It's a new beginning, but not totally independent of all other beginnings. There's a script, plans, that perpetuate events. It's a evolution of growth with its beginnings in the womb. If the script is followed sufficiently, this growth process emerges into a world outside. If this growth continues, its progress is observed. Along the path of growth, a point is reached, where the development of awareness perceives that a reflective surface offers the image of one's self, and always has, yet went unnoticed. If the path of growth is traveled further, one becomes aware of God, indefinitely.
God offers man communion, a connection with the other generations of man. By way of this communion, it can be recognized that each one is a part of a continuation. Each day of one's life, the experiences can be remembered, analyzed, and used beneficially in the decision process made by the present. Each generation to play an important role, a guide, along the path of growth. Without this communion, man is not.
Although life is designed in such a way as to restrict one from traveling a path which serves not the will of God, Treadnee was different from most in the way that he became aware that he was doing this. He did not perceive that he was standing, sitting, or lying down, but he knew he was there. Many others had been called and were present at this location, also. What they had in common, was an awareness that they were serving God. What made Treadnee different than the others gathered together, was that he would, this time, returned to the present. At this location, Treadnee and the others were communing with one another, they were playing a role, God was in the process of making a decision. There was no time limit, Treadnee could stay as long as he felt he should. He was gathering data, experiences, for when he returned to the present, Treadnee would have to make a decision, and act accordingly. He was thankful, for this meeting of the minds, overtime. Treadnee was growing, developing, remembering, for their future. A decision was made, God accepted. God was within as well as about.
1 Thessalonians 2:
13. For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
14. For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15. Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16. Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
Or
Connecting the Dots
It's a new beginning, but not totally independent of all other beginnings. There's a script, plans, that perpetuate events. It's a evolution of growth with its beginnings in the womb. If the script is followed sufficiently, this growth process emerges into a world outside. If this growth continues, its progress is observed. Along the path of growth, a point is reached, where the development of awareness perceives that a reflective surface offers the image of one's self, and always has, yet went unnoticed. If the path of growth is traveled further, one becomes aware of God, indefinitely.
God offers man communion, a connection with the other generations of man. By way of this communion, it can be recognized that each one is a part of a continuation. Each day of one's life, the experiences can be remembered, analyzed, and used beneficially in the decision process made by the present. Each generation to play an important role, a guide, along the path of growth. Without this communion, man is not.
Although life is designed in such a way as to restrict one from traveling a path which serves not the will of God, Treadnee was different from most in the way that he became aware that he was doing this. He did not perceive that he was standing, sitting, or lying down, but he knew he was there. Many others had been called and were present at this location, also. What they had in common, was an awareness that they were serving God. What made Treadnee different than the others gathered together, was that he would, this time, returned to the present. At this location, Treadnee and the others were communing with one another, they were playing a role, God was in the process of making a decision. There was no time limit, Treadnee could stay as long as he felt he should. He was gathering data, experiences, for when he returned to the present, Treadnee would have to make a decision, and act accordingly. He was thankful, for this meeting of the minds, overtime. Treadnee was growing, developing, remembering, for their future. A decision was made, God accepted. God was within as well as about.
1 Thessalonians 2:
13. For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
14. For ye, brethren, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, even as they have of the Jews:
15. Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men:
16. Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.
Dargo
Like a bad penny...
Dave, I think you need to use a lot more quotes from your personal bible when discussing things with Alien.
fogtender
Now a Published Author
Started to watch it, but got as far as the pot crap, and closed it, not because I don't care for it, I don't like people making excuses for using it and trying to drag God into their thought process for messing their heads up, or whatever their excuse is.... If you think you need to smoke pot, then go do it, don't blame anyone else for your reasons for "having" to do it.
You know, I blocked alanejackson and can only see all the other posts. This tread now makes total sense when I can't read what he said, but only what you guys "Quoted" and responded to... Much better! Everyone needs to try it, but that of course would marginalize Mr. Jackson....
California
Charter Member
Works for me! The thread seems to have a life of its own. Maybe that's what he intended after all.You know, I blocked alanejackson... Much better! Everyone needs to try it, but that of course would marginalize Mr. Jackson....
alanejackson
Banned
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