UTV KNOCK OFFS

AAUTOFAB1

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I have done the CJ thing. Owned 7 at one time. Thay were grate in their day. Wont go where the UTV's goe.

i have never seen a UTV make it up any of the 4x4 trails where i live,oh they try:w00t2:, but are not built for real 4-wheelin,but i really don't think they are designed for it:whistling: fun to run around the ranch in:biggrin:
 

Snowtrac Nome

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I have done the CJ thing. Owned 7 at one time. Thay were grate in their day. Wont go where the UTV's goe.
i have to disagree i have a cj-5 stock 258 33 x1450 it follows a new polaris 6x6 any place and in some cases pulled it through the polaris has it's place if narrow is what you need also has a better ride quality the cj5 will haul more and pull more weight also has better brakes. when loaded i also find parts to be more in expensive
 

Dargo

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I've probably had 8 or 10 neighbors go the 'knock-off' Chinese route with the sellers telling them that the engines were "Honda clones" and the transmissions were "Made by a Yamaha supplier" and all sorts of other obvious bullshit. Not one of the cheap Chinese knock-offs are still running and they have zero resale value. They are a lose-lose proposition. I would not touch one with a ten foot pole using someone else's money.

I've taken the "Honda knock-off" engines apart to fix them since I've worked on Honda engines since 1974. Honda my ass!!! The ONLY thing to do with Honda is the word Honda the salesman used in a lie to sell the disposable POS. Most were leaking fluids (contaminated fluids at that) on the showroom floor. "Since they are clones, parts are interchangeable". Again, my ass! It would be like putting a 15 yard dump bed on an S10 pickup; it's a clone of the original bed, same thing. :rolleyes: Before you light your hard earned money on fire and burn it, look and see how many of those dealers are still in business, have a full service shop, have a fully stocked parts department (because you WON'T find the parts!) and see if they sing the same tune they sang only a few years ago. I know it sounds rude, but it's the way I grew up and it's served me well; if you can't afford to buy the actual item you want, NEVER, under any circumstances buy one that's "just like" what you want according to the person selling the knock-off.
 

Snowtrac Nome

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i have to agree with you Dargo even some of the brand name stuff can be hard to get parts for now days so i can imagine the off brand can be impossable. if you need something on the cheep by a small jeep or 4wd mini tuck strip it and put on some big tires
 

BENNCHE

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i have to disagree i have a cj-5 stock 258 33 x1450 it follows a new polaris 6x6 any place and in some cases pulled it through the polaris has it's place if narrow is what you need also has a better ride quality the cj5 will haul more and pull more weight also has better brakes. when loaded i also find parts to be more in expensive
Bought a new cj 5 in 1974 with the AMC 258 .Toed a 13 foot Scoty camper from western PA to Dinasor Utah and back plus meny other trips. Never run it in the ralleys . It probably was the best one I had.:wow:
 

timsetzer

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If your looking for a great UTV, don't look at a Bennche. I purchased the 700 Big Horn Crew last December. It spent the first two months in the shop with over heating. After getting it out and having it for 6 months, it is over heating again. Bennche will not respond to the issues. They want you to deal with the dealer and not them.

I don't have any respect for them at all. My wife will not drive the UTV because she does not feel the vehicle will get her where she wants to go and back with out over heating. I have contacted them several times and I can not get a response from them. I would like to have the $13,000.00 back I spent on it to get a Polaris Crew but I can't get a response. Today I hired an attorney to handle this issue.

Be ware and if you have to have a small vehicle to drive on the street, get a jeep.
 

Snowtrac Nome

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just what I said if I were to do it again I think I would get a cj-7 may look at replacing my wifes broom with a wrangler.
 

BENNCHE

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If your looking for a great UTV, don't look at a Bennche. I purchased the 700 Big Horn Crew last December. It spent the first two months in the shop with over heating. After getting it out and having it for 6 months, it is over heating again. Bennche will not respond to the issues. They want you to deal with the dealer and not them.

I don't have any respect for them at all. My wife will not drive the UTV because she does not feel the vehicle will get her where she wants to go and back with out over heating. I have contacted them several times and I can not get a response from them. I would like to have the $13,000.00 back I spent on it to get a Polaris Crew but I can't get a response. Today I hired an attorney to handle this issue.

Be ware and if you have to have a small vehicle to drive on the street, get a jeep.
SORRY TO HEAR OF YOUR MISFORTUNE . I HAV HAD MY BENNCHE 500 FOR ABOUT A YEAR. I HAD SOME HEATING PROBLEMS WHEN IT WAS NEW. THERE ARE 2 TEMP. SENDING UNITS THAT CONTROLE THE FAN . ONE ON THE THERMOSTAT HOUSING AND ONE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE RADIATOR. THE SENSOR ON THE RADIATOR WAS BAD FROM THE FACTORY. AS FOR MY DEALER (CLARION CYCLE) OR THE MFR.(HISUN) I HAVE NO COMPLAINTS WITH EITHER . IF THE HEATING PROBLEM SHOULD BE THE SENSOR ON THE RADIATOR THERE IS A PROTECTIVE BOOT OVER THE PLUG THAT NEEDS TO BE SECURED TO THE SENDING UNIT WITH A ZIP TIE. THE DEALER STRESSED THE FACT THAT IT WAS NOT A RHINO WHEN I BOUGHT IT WHICH IS HIS MAIN BRAND. I TESTED BOTH AND BOUGHT THE BENNCHE
 

Quadking

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Looking for comments, reviews, opinions on hisun UTVs. Would like to hear from some folks who have actually own/owned one. I have been looking at reviews on several forums but there seems to be a lot of "I know a guy who had a friend who had a cousin who knew a guy that has one" stories. Or "I have a Yamaha and everthing else is crap". I have a Yamaha ATV, A Polaris ATV and a Susuki ATV, Arcticat Snomobiles and few more I will leave off. I like them all.
I bought a Hisun from Cara Powersports in Toronto. I bought it new in 2012, its a hisun 500cc ATV, I've taken it riding and hunting with my buddies through some pretty serious trails and it kept up to there Yamaha and Polaris no problem. Plus I got the plow kit for it and have been doing my driveway all winter. No problems yet. just make sure wherever you buy it carries the parts and does service if you ever need it and you'll be fine. Besides its half the price of almost any decent brand name machine out there, I would rather buy anything new then some used machine that you dont know what its been used for, at least you have warranty with these.
 

Dargo

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I bought a Hisun from Cara Powersports in Toronto. I bought it new in 2012, its a hisun 500cc ATV, I've taken it riding and hunting with my buddies through some pretty serious trails and it kept up to there Yamaha and Polaris no problem. Plus I got the plow kit for it and have been doing my driveway all winter. No problems yet. just make sure wherever you buy it carries the parts and does service if you ever need it and you'll be fine. Besides its half the price of almost any decent brand name machine out there, I would rather buy anything new then some used machine that you dont know what its been used for, at least you have warranty with these.

I would buy a used name brand 100% of the time. The UTV knockoffs have had a terrible track record based on all the forums I've visited and everyone I've have seen has broken. The worst part is they have basically zero resale value. I'd never consider throwing $7000 or more on something that will be worth less than $2000 when you get it home and, as mentioned, about zero if it breaks. A Yamaha, Kawasaki or Honda will likely give decades of service and still be worth money after all that use.
 

mtntopper

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We have a Kymco dealer in our small town who works on them and sells the parts. He is our only ATV dealer and seems to be selling quite a few locally. I have heard that Kymco is here to stay in the US and has a fairly decent reliable reputation as there dealers must be complete parts and service in a business location to be a dealer. Dargo, have you heard anything about this brand? Local service is very important. He ends up working on all brands and does a good job on all of his work from the customer I have talked to.

I have a 2008 Rhino 700 bought used with only 32 miles on it and it has been bullet proof with tracks or tires. It has about 1700 miles on it without any repairs except for normal service type maintenance.
 

mbsieg

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Kymco is not a knockoff. At least not in my book.
We have a Kymco dealer in our small town who works on them and sells the parts. He is our only ATV dealer and seems to be selling quite a few locally. I have heard that Kymco is here to stay in the US and has a fairly decent reliable reputation as there dealers must be complete parts and service in a business location to be a dealer. Dargo, have you heard anything about this brand? Local service is very important. He ends up working on all brands and does a good job on all of his work from the customer I have talked to.

I have a 2008 Rhino 700 bought used with only 32 miles on it and it has been bullet proof with tracks or tires. It has about 1700 miles on it without any repairs except for normal service type maintenance.
 

Dargo

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We have a Kymco dealer in our small town who works on them and sells the parts. He is our only ATV dealer and seems to be selling quite a few locally. I have heard that Kymco is here to stay in the US and has a fairly decent reliable reputation as there dealers must be complete parts and service in a business location to be a dealer. Dargo, have you heard anything about this brand? Local service is very important. He ends up working on all brands and does a good job on all of his work from the customer I have talked to.

I have a 2008 Rhino 700 bought used with only 32 miles on it and it has been bullet proof with tracks or tires. It has about 1700 miles on it without any repairs except for normal service type maintenance.

Actually Kymco is a Taiwanese company that has been around for a long time. They literally provided most of the parts for Honda until Honda got big enough to have their own plant and Kymco split off from them in 1963. BMW currently uses Kymco engines in some of their enduro bikes. There is a HUGE difference in Kymco vs the super el-cheapo Chinese brands like the one just mentioned. Kymco is actually a very well respected company with many name brand dealers carrying Kymco and proudly putting a Kymco sign right up with their Honda or Suzuki etc. sign out front. A Kymco will cost you about twice what you can buy a cheapo Chinese machine will.

The big difference is when a company like Kymco forges their own product line rather than a Chinese company that ignores copyrights and patents and makes extremely cheap "clones" of name brand products like the afore mentioned Hisun does with the Yamaha Rhino. I honestly take offense to that company because they intentionally try to market their product by lying and saying "It's just like a Rhino" but half the cost. :glare: NOT! That is exactly what I was talking about in the post here about a year ago where a neighbor thought he was getting the "same thing" as a Rhino only to find out he basically blew $6500 bucks on something that never ran right a single day and completely broke within a month with him never getting it fixed or anything from it's so called 'warranty'.

In my area a Kymco scooter or E-Ton scooter costs about twice what the cheapo Chinese junkers cost but rather than being disposable at around 1000 miles on them, they are just getting broken in. I've seen Kymco and E-Ton scooters at motorcycle dealers used with over 25k miles on them and still running fine. Again, those are two companies who promote their own product as what it is and do NOT "clone" (read; violate copyright laws) other products. Since I deal with auto, powersports and marine dealers all the time I get a bit offended at the Chinese junk that appears. Really, all they do is take money from people who can least afford to be ripped off. There may be others, but from personal experience working with dealers, warranty claims and actually seeing resale value, Kymco and E-Ton are the two 'not so well known' brands that stand out as being really well built and not just a pretender.

I just looked on eBay's completed auctions (they tell the real story; what really sold and for how much) and only 1 Hisun has sold, BUT it had a different engine installed in it from a Polaris or something. There are dozens of Kymco's that have sold as well as E-Tons. Those two brands are almost accepted as 'name brands' in many parts of the country since they've been around so long and have great track records.
 

Vicsvw

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I have a Ranch Pony for about a month. Waiting for the oil filter adapter. It should be shipped tomorrow. After checking with supplier a order 5 gts. of Castrol Edge, so I could get the oil changed. Now there is a question on if it is OK to use the Castrol Edge 5w-30 oil. Can not find out if it will cause problems with clutch and drive belt. Importer said OK to use but I don't trust them. Help Please from any Castrol Edge users. Vic.
 

JimVT

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is it a wet clutch? A wet clutch is one bathed in oil. If it is use a oil that is made for motorcycles with one.
some engine oil is made extra slippery and this may cause your clutch to slip.
 

Vicsvw

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You get what you pay for. I have had one for 3 months and its been down for 2 months.
My fault since I wanted to change oil write away and no one had oil filters. Went for the filter adapter so I can use reg filters. The importer did not know you could not use Castrol pure synthetic and the"Jaso" rating was needed. Vic.
 

mudder

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Looking for comments, reviews, opinions on hisun UTVs. Would like to hear from some folks who have actually own/owned one. I have been looking at reviews on several forums but there seems to be a lot of "I know a guy who had a friend who had a cousin who knew a guy that has one" stories. Or "I have a Yamaha and everthing else is crap". I have a Yamaha ATV, A Polaris ATV and a Susuki ATV, Arcticat Snomobiles and few more I will leave off. I like them all.
I have 2 hisun atv's , a 500 and a 700 , nothing but trouble with them since new, both are dead in the garage as I type this . the 500 is burning anti freeze and the 700 dumped it's anti freeze into the crank case and up into the air filter. gauges have never worked properly since new, they cough and sputter run like the rev limiter is always cutting in . had them in the dealer steady until warranty ran out and now they don't carry hisun any more. I'm have 12,000 bucks worth of junk now!.Take my advice and don't buy anything made in china. I could see if one of them were trouble and just "built on Monday" but both of them are garbage!
 
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