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US - Canada trade talks COLLAPSE, Trump is pissed

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Post speaks for itself.

This comes just 1 day after China & USA announced agreements on the framework of trade deals.


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Put these assholes out of business.
400% tariff on everything Canada. No talks for a year. The 400% is in effect for a solid year. Don't break their ice. Let it freeze over. No air support. No intelligence support.
Fuck em.
Why are we playing around????
They are a Muslim loving country and want the end of our republic. Fuck them.
Fuck the EU as well. Pull out of NATO. Let them fund themselves. Whatever tariff they put on us, put 4 times on them.
Fully support Poland and Romania with everything we have. They are the only two on our side fully.
Cripple the rest for a while.
 
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Does Canada actually have anything we need that we can't produce ourselves or get from other sources?

Mainly they have LUMBER, which we have. Really thick CRUDE OIL; we have better quality crude and ours is much easier to refine. They have American car factories that ship American cars back to us. They grow some crops, but we grow them too.
 
Trump is not up for reelection. He needs to stop playing "keep the betas happy" and play MAGA full tilt.
And by the way, not one stinking Pelosi, Schummer, Schif or any other lying cheating stealing democrat that we have boxes of evidence on has been indicted. What hairbrush to drain the swamp? 6 months in, nothing.
WT flying F.

Damn, I need Macallan and a Cuban Cohiba. You guys are gonna give me a heart attack
 
FRANKLY, IT IS BETTER TO HAVE GOOD TRADE RELATIONS WITH OUR NEIGHBORS THAN BE PISSED BECAUSE THE MAN OF THE HOUSE IS AN ASS.


Yes, we can produce most anything we get from Canada. However, there are many American business's operating there. Further the Canadians have huge investments in companies that produce goods for the USA market. Sourcing Lumber, Oil, Produce, etc, will require investments here and sadly, some changes in our long, LONG, list of regulations.
 
Well Franc
Then they need to back off with their bullshit or we won't give a F. We tariff the hell out of them until THEY realize we want equality. Them putting tariffs on us deserves a huge response. They need to back off. Then we back off. We don't take it on the shorts.
 
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Trump has some serious balls. Yet Canada doesn't seem to get it!! :hammer: Trump will bring the liberals in Ottawa to their knees if
they are demanding it as they have been.

Trump will not back down until they do. I support that. I want a true alpha male to run my world.
Who knows maybe we end up with Alberta and most of Britch Columbia on the side. :unsure: :respect:
 
Went to Canada last month to visit the family. The Trump derangement syndrome and blatant arrogance up there was stronger than ever. They need to feel some pain in order to course correct. I feel sorry for the conservative minority but even they are a little too "proud" these days. Let the northern tears flow and teach them a lesson.
 
I describe myself as a libertarian with a lower case L because it is easier to say than fiscally conservative socially liberal moderate Constitutionalist. I'm not a fan of tariffs as they tend to drive prices up. That said, & since like it or not they are a part of politics, reciprocal tariffs are just common sense. Canada is obliged by the USMCA trade agreement to deal fairly with us, but since the agreement was signed they have continued to screw us over, especially in regard to dairy trade. A little reciprocation is in order. This is a staring contest we can win.
 
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Apparently Trudope got some law pushed through that has had a negative impact on the Canadian economy and effectively has blocked any new pipelines being built. So, Carney wants to make up the lost 7 Billion on the backs of the USA.

I just have no idea when all these jackholes will figure out that Trump is nobody to fuck with. Talk about stupid. I give the Quebers lots of credit for being stupid, but figured the rest of Canada is smarter. I dunno, now.
 
So this is a long but very interesting read if you want to understand WHY Canada enacted the 'digital' tax and WHY Trump turned around and simply cut off all trade talks.

I found it fascinating insight into both and didn't understand the backstory. Written by a European economist, so the perspective not some MAGA right winger parroting talking points but someone from the other side, looking rationally at what is happening. Interesting stuff.


Hat tip to ZeroHedge for publishing the story from Thomas Kolbe.

How Canada's Digital Tax Exposes Brussels' Globalist Playbook: A Trump Retaliation

By Thomas Kolbe
Now the cards are on the table. Amid the heated phase of trade talks with the U.S., Canada is introducing a digital tax that will burden American tech giants with billions in costs. In response, President Trump broke off talks with Ottawa and announced new tariffs.
Among poker players, you know the coldly calculating player: He calculates probabilities, weighs risks, and plays his hand with sober precision. Sitting beside him is the gambler – impulsive but not reckless. He acts spectacularly, yet within a strategic framework he masters with virtuosity. Now imagine a pathological exception alongside these archetypes: a player who reveals his cards before the round even begins, only to go all-in immediately after. Canada’s Prime Minister Mark Carney falls into this category.
Brussels’ Governor in North America
The former Governor of the Bank of England, a committed globalist and climate crusader, and following the spectacular failure of Justin Trudeau, the new enforcer of the European agenda in North America, has gotten himself entangled in a geopolitical game of va banque with the announcement of a digital penalty tax on foreign tech companies.
The tax is set to take effect on July 1, retroactive to January 1, 2022, and will squeeze foreign tech firms with over 20 million Canadian dollars in revenue at a rate of three percent. Ottawa is calling for payment — aiming its arrow at the heart of America’s economic powerhouse, Silicon Valley. U.S. giants like Apple, Meta, and X face penalty payments exceeding two billion U.S. dollars.
An affront at the worst possible time (or was the escalation planned?), staged by a prime minister playing a weak hand from a position of weakness. Much like in Germany, productivity and per capita income have declined since the devastating lockdowns — the EU-inspired agenda of climate regulation, migration chaos, and a socialist redistribution state is cutting a swath of economic paralysis through society.
Carney proves to be the ideal candidate for that globalist elite steering resource-rich Canada into the next phase of its decline. In negotiations with Donald Trump, he acts entirely in the style of Brussels’ negotiating school: making maximal demands, refusing any form of compromise, and publicly prioritizing ideological principles over a rational negotiation path.
Missing the Turning Point
But this time, the script seems to call for a turning point: the response from Washington was swift — and decidedly blunt. Trump called Canada’s political leadership a “copy of the EU” in reaction to Carney’s digital tax, warning that new U.S. tariffs will soon follow.
Indeed, Ottawa is faithfully following Brussels’ line: censorship laws, regulation of media platforms, fiscal grabs on U.S. companies — all aimed at breaking American dominance in the digital sphere and, as a side benefit, easing the overstretched state budget a bit. What drives a prime minister at this stage of trade talks to escalate to the maximum level becomes clear if one follows Trump’s hinted line and understands Canada as a resource-rich EU satellite. Carney is intimately familiar only with the scorched earth strategy.
Thus, Trump’s uncompromising response sends an unmistakable signal to Brussels: the era of fair-weather diplomacy is over. You will have to move.
Trump Exposes Brussels’ Lying Machine
As Europeans who claim free self-determination and individual sovereignty, we should be thankful to Donald Trump. As at the start of the trade dispute with the EU, he shines a glaring spotlight on Ottawa’s protectionism in Canada’s case. The public needs more evidence of Brussels’ often cleverly disguised protectionism and its Canadian branch office. Trump explicitly mentioned in his reply to Carney the tariff barrier of up to 400 percent Canada long imposed against American agriculture well before the tariff dispute.
Lies, moralizing manipulation of apodictic opinion, and cold-blooded protectionism — that most clearly describes the Brussels line.
In public discourse, EU Europe always portrays itself as the defender of free trade, as a liberal and open order power. Behind the scenes, however, they overwhelm non-European competitors with a web of harmonization duties, climate regulations, and rulebooks that kill fair competition in the cradle. A free trade with built-in entry barriers and a minefield to deter newcomers — technically well-packaged, morally justified, economically devastating.
Trump’s hard line on Brussels and Canada also makes him an enlightener of geopolitical reality. It is to be expected that in the trade dispute with Brussels, we will encounter more, hitherto undisclosed, instruments from the European protectionism toolbox. As said: the cards are now on the table.
Warning Signal to the “Five Eyes”
The clumsy escalation attempt by the Canadian prime minister has exposed a geopolitical fault line: on one side, the United States and its partners, committed to values of freedom. Think here of Argentina’s President Javier Milei. On the other side, a globalist cartel is forming, led by EU Brussels and its satellites like Ottawa. Thanks to the internal political turn of the Trump administration, this difference is now glaringly clear. While in Europe, politics, unions, churches, and the “cordon sanitaire” of the green-socialist agenda — consisting of a host of NGOs and state media — blindly defend the woke climate and redistribution agenda, the wind has already shifted in the U.S.
The violent clashes in heavily European-influenced strongholds of California underscore the growing pressure from the new U.S. administration on these milieus. The same goes for migration policy. Here, the chasm between the U.S. and the EU is so wide that even the trained eye, looking through the rose-colored glasses of European propaganda, can no longer hide reality: the U.S. is handling its migration crisis and returning to internal political seriousness.
Trump sends a clear signal to the Western world: whoever tries to siphon off America’s innovative strength or block it through regulation will be declared a pariah without hesitation. Delivered via Trump’s social media platform Truth Social, this message from yesterday is addressed to the EU, to Canada, Australia, the United Kingdom — and to the tech industry in Silicon Valley itself, which can now be assured of White House backing.
“We will let Canada know what tariff they must pay to do business with the United States of America,” Trump said. The U.S. president is not just imposing an economic sanction — he is putting the true power relations, visible to all, in the spotlight. Anyone who wants to do business on the world’s largest single market will have to accept the host’s rules. This is the new sound people will have to get used to — fast.
America’s New Role
Just as in monetary policy, where the U.S. succeeded in abandoning London’s City and the LIBOR mechanism controlled by European banks by introducing the SOFRsystem, a new American course is emerging geopolitically. Trump’s May trip through the Middle East also set a new tone: business took center stage, early attempts at a new mercantile order in the region are emerging. Whether Saudi Arabia, Qatar, or the United Arab Emirates — Trump convinced them all to invest hundreds of billions of dollars in the reindustrialization of the United States.
No European moralizing, no divisive politics to consolidate power locally — Trump is daring to reorder the Middle East.
Hectic Weeks Ahead
And Europe? Much like in the case of the elimination of Iran’s nuclear program by the U.S. military or the rare earth deal involving Ukraine, European politics no longer even plays a supporting role. It has become irrelevant. There are retreat battles and distractions, like Canada’s digital tax, which reveal the geopolitical weakness of the Old Continent. Europe is stuck on the defensive — dependent on third-party energy flows, entangled in the Ukraine conflict, and powerless in managing global trade.
Transferring this geopolitical loss of relevance of Europeans to the upcoming trade talks with the U.S., we can expect spectacular Brussels flips, media squabbles, and the usual vilification of the U.S. president in frenzied media. The Euro cartel and its allies have yet to intellectually or politically make the leap forward.
Just as Brussels mistakenly assumes that it has gotten off lightly with Trump accepting the NATO 2% goal as sufficient for now, hoping to slip back into familiar behavioral patterns and delay tactics, a bitter truth threatens in the trade dispute: the U.S. is serious, and it will solve its domestic problems by returning to American values of free-market economy, minimal state, and personal responsibility. And these values will be defended abroad with maximum severity.
* * *
Thomas Kolbe is a German graduate economist. For over 25 years, he has worked as a journalist and media producer. As a publicist, he focuses on economic processes and observes geopolitical events from the perspective of the capital markets. His publications follow a philosophy that focuses on the individual and their right to self-determination.
 
This is about what President Trump was speaking when he said he "liked Tariffs, Tariffs can be a beautiful thing"

Best negotiator on the planet.

So one has to wonder how much this action by Carney will hurt the Canadian people?

It is obvious he is a serious "net zero" advocate; those policies, anywhere in the world will lead to the ruin of the economy upon which they are foisted. Carney apparently is also a true globalist and in bed with the European Union, which also has not cut a trade deal. One would think the Canadian people (at least my ignorant American perspective) would be more closely aligned with the United Kingdom, a country that has already a trade deal with the United State.

Seems like Carney will choose his "agenda" over the welfare of Canadian subjects.
 
So one has to wonder how much this action by Carney will hurt the Canadian people?

It is obvious he is a serious "net zero" advocate; those policies, anywhere in the world will lead to the ruin of the economy upon which they are foisted. Carney apparently is also a true globalist and in bed with the European Union, which also has not cut a trade deal. One would think the Canadian people (at least my ignorant American perspective) would be more closely aligned with the United Kingdom, a country that has already a trade deal with the United State.

Seems like Carney will choose his "agenda" over the welfare of Canadian subjects.
No surprise there!
 
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And with a single bitch slap, Trump put Canada back in her place. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/29/world/canada/trump-digital-services-tax.html

Well you have to admit, the 'bitch slap' was actually a slap that knocked them back to the womb.

I still thought it was pretty shocking that Carney would lead with a tactic so extreme, what a poor tactic. It really only could be replied to with a massive response. Which is what Carney got from Trump. Now Carney had to backtrack to re-start the talks, which puts him in a position of total weakness and dependance in the negotiations.
 
While this is funny, I think it was actually Carney that thought he was spanking Trump.

I still worry about what Carney is doing to the Canadian people.

This is a self inflicted wound and Carney can only blame himself for this.

 
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