mak2
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http://www.hhs.gov/healthcare/facts/factsheets/2014/10/affordable-care-act-is-working.html
In response to waybomb's question in another thread.
In response to waybomb's question in another thread.
Are you shitting me? I might have read the rest of the article but you lost me on item #1, which is complete BS.
70% of Americans with Marketplace insurance plans feel they can now afford care if they get sick, and a majority say their premiums are easy to afford. (Source: The Commonwealth Fund)
Are you shitting me? I might have read the rest of the article but you lost me on item #1, which is complete BS.
mak2,
Welcome back!! Glad to see this post!
Tough crowd though.
Regards, Kirk
the part of this statement that isn't true is the if they get sick insurance should be just that if you have a catastrophic event the insurance will help you cover it and premium's are affordable. the way it is now is insurance is more of a maintenance plan to help you afford a visit to go see the doctor and the premium's reflect this for those of us who pay for it. we had a doc up here wouldn't do insurance each visit was 70 bucks he had more work than he could handle which is why he isn't around he couldn't even take a week off he really needed some extra help.Are you shitting me? I might have read the rest of the article but you lost me on item #1, which is complete BS.
the part of this statement that isn't true is the if they get sick insurance should be just that if you have a catastrophic event the insurance will help you cover it and premium's are affordable. the way it is now is insurance is more of a maintenance plan to help you afford a visit to go see the doctor and the premium's reflect this for those of us who pay for it. we had a doc up here wouldn't do insurance each visit was 70 bucks he had more work than he could handle which is why he isn't around he couldn't even take a week off he really needed some extra help.
Are you saying insurance should only cover catastrophic events?
I'd say that my insurance should cover whatever I want it to, tempered by my abiity and desire to pay for it. All that after I have done my research and negotiated with the insurance companies.
I'd say you should have the right to do the same.
I like your point jimbo the way things are now you get what the government wants you to have and if you cant afford it comes at others expense. my point I was trying to make if you cant afford it and you need the taxpayers help it should be bare bones just like your bare bones liability you get for your car if you decide you cant pay or don't want to pay for comprehensive.
You're presuming (accusing?) Jimbo is ignorant, and not smart enough to insure himself against catastrophic incidents like a motorcycle accident. I don't think you're presenting a realistic scenario to counter his desire to negotiate his coverage within his financial ability, and would suggest you present another scenario to make your point. JMHO.Then if you crash your motorcycle and end up in the ER and you did not negotiate for that? Who should pay then?
You're presuming (accusing?) Jimbo is ignorant, and not smart enough to insure himself against catastrophic incidents like a motorcycle accident. I don't think you're presenting a realistic scenario to counter his desire to negotiate his coverage within his financial ability, and would suggest you present another scenario to make your point. JMHO.
I beg to differ. The scenario you presented implied that he was not smart enough to insure himself against a catostrophic accident if he were able to negotiate on his own behalf. You said nothing about prognostication, but implied lack of knowledge to adequately insure himself, and them having his medical costs rest on someone or something else.I accused Jimbo of nothing except not being able to predict the future. What should we, as a society do, if Jimbo guesses wrong and does not get the correct coverages on his ala carte policy?
You're presuming (accusing?) Jimbo is ignorant, and not smart enough to insure himself against catastrophic incidents like a motorcycle accident. I don't think you're presenting a realistic scenario to counter his desire to negotiate his coverage within his financial ability, and would suggest you present another scenario to make your point. JMHO.
So you feel my challenging your statement is a threat to "normal" people enjoying lively political discussion? That's too bad, but it's not really a problem, since there aren't many "normal" people here on FF.Just for the record, this is the kinda crap that keeps stuff stirred up and runs normal people off this forum.
Then if you crash your motorcycle and end up in the ER and you did not negotiate for that? Who should pay then?
So you feel my challenging your statement is a threat to "normal" people enjoying lively political discussion? That's too bad, but it's not really a problem, since there aren't many "normal" people here on FF.
Have a nice day.
I accused Jimbo of nothing except not being able to predict the future. What should we, as a society do, if Jimbo guesses wrong and does not get the correct coverages on his ala carte policy?
It's my opinion that Jimbo would be in the same boat as if you invested heavily in a single stock, then lost it all because you guessed wrong. But liberals feel that they have all the answers to solve the challenges of our society, and few of their solutions involve personal responsibility for one's actions. Nobody is going to bail you out if you lose your investment, especially based on warning of caveat emptor when it comes to investing. But liberals pick how individuals should be treated, thus negating personal choice in the matter of health care. I need not remind you that ObamaCare was passed by a single political party at the wishes of Dear Leader, eliminating any dialog to the contrary. It's a terrible solution to how we approach health cafe, and was a takeover of 1/6th of the economy...which was the intent all along.I accused Jimbo of nothing except not being able to predict the future. What should we, as a society do, if Jimbo guesses wrong and does not get the correct coverages on his ala carte policy?