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Santorum for President?

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Sounds like someone that has their eye on the oval office:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=M2JlYzQ0MTY0ZjVkYTAxMjcxZmY1ZDI3NzQ3MDNlMDY=

re: Santorum on the Senate Floor [Kathryn Jean Lopez]



This is a very rough transcript sent to me from a Senate source of his speech earlier (sorry for the long block):
[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]I stand here in just — in just sadness.[/FONT]


[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]The president of the united states gives an address about the condition of our country five years after the events of 9/11, gives an address and lays out the scope of the problem that we are confronting. The people all across this world who subscribe to a radical, perverted form of islam want to destroy everything that we believe in; that is the enemy that we are confronting. We are in an active war with our military against them in afghanistan and iraq. That's the reality. The minority leader just referred to it as sectarian violence. Sectarian? Hmm... What is that word? Religious violence, radical skhraeupl — islam violence. Some shoe — some sunni, some shia, but both. That is the reality of who the enemy is today. The very people that planned the attacks are the people who are in iraq — al qaeda — in iraq causing that sectarian violence. Should we ignore that i would ask the senator from nevada? Should we just ignore that? That doesn't exist? Just pretend that they're not there, not talk about that last night, pretend that al qaeda is not in iraq, this is not part of the mission that we are trying to accomplish? [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]It's sad. We're at war against an enemy that i happen to believe is the most dangerous enemy ever to confront this country. We play petty politics constantly here on the floor of the senate, even after a solemn day of remembrance for the valiant people who died on september 11. This is chilling. We just can't get past the politics around here, just can't get past the partisan advantage around here, can't face the reality that we have a dangerous enemy out there, an enemy that wants to destroy everything we hold dear, an enemy that is very clear about what they want to accomplish. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]How clear? They say it. Not to mike wallace on "60 minutes," i might add. No. No, when you're spinning in english here in america, you put on the nice face. You put on the happy face that we want peace and we want to live together in brotherhood and all this wonderful stuff. That's a lie, because when they go back and speak in arabic and farsi, they give a very different story. And it's a consistent story, i might add. It is the destruction of the state of israel and it is the submission of the infidels to what they believe in. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]That's the enemy we confront. It's real. We can play politics about it and say it's not real. We can say it's a trumped-up war. They are at war with us. We may not want to be at war with them, but they are at war with us not just in afghanistan and iraq, not just in southern lebanon, not just in great britain, but here. They want to defeat us. Their intent is to defeat us. And they are motivating people in the middle east and around the world to join the ranks and attack us. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]One of the things i learned from my days in little league and in everything else i've ever engaged in. One sure-fire way to lose anything that you're engaged in with an opponent is not to take your opponent seriously, is not to look at what they really are about, look at their capability and not take them seriously. I remember early in this war many were calling the terrorists cowards, as if these people were weak and that they had no real resolve. These people are not weak. They are misguided, horribly misguided. But they are not weak. They are a dangerous enemy. They are a dangerous enemy that has an ideology that is phoet — that is motivating people. And they have a tactic that is uniquely effective against us. As osama bin laden says, "we will defeat you because you love life. We love death." [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]And we do love life in this country because we have a lot to live for. We have great freedom. We have great material wealth. We have a wonderful culture. They, on the other hand, for the most part have none of those. They love death because they see death is better than life, and they're willing to die. In fact, they want to die. We've never fought an enemy like this. We've never fought an enemy that wanted to die as part of the victory for them. We always fought enemies who saw death as a tragic consequence of war and that their objective was an earth lick kingdom. Not this — an earthly kingdom. Not this enemy. This enemy, death is the part of the war as a desire for entering into this battle, and that their kingdom is not one that they want to build here but one that they want to achieve after death. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]This is an enemy that wants a nuclear weapon in iran not because they want to stave off Because they want to use it to attacks. No. pursue their messianiac vision of the return of the hidden imam. They give speeches across the state of pennsylvania and lay out for the people in my state this vision of president mahmoud ahmadinejad, the vision of the shia 12th or hidden imam who is to return at the end of time. That's what the shia believe. But president ahmadinejad and the rulers of iran believe different than most shias. Thank god different from most shias. They believe it is their obligation to bring about the end of time by the destruction of the state of israel and by world chaos in which islam is suppressing the infidels. And only at that time will this hidden imam return and the actualization of the religion come to pass. This is a serious enemy. This is an enemy with resources. This is an enemy with growing technology, and this is an enemy with fervent disciples who are willing to go around and kill themselves in pursuit of this objective. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]This is not something to be playing politics with. This is not something to ignore and pass off as sectarian violence that we brought about because we happen to be there. These people have been at war with us for 20 years, and we've chosen to ignore them. And we paid a very high price. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]And so what's our lesson? If you listen to the democratic leader, our lesson is let's continue to ignore them. Let's continue to play politics. Let's put domestic politics ahead of the security of this country. That's the message. This isn't real. This is trumped up. If we leave them alone, they'll leave us alone. Oh really? Do you really believe that? That if we were to leave these people alone, that somehow or another we'd be safe here? We just garrison america, make all public buildings like we have here at the capitol. Put jersey barriers around everything. Have police on every corner. Who will protect ourselves from these people? Is that the america we want to live in? Not me. Not me. We are at war, the most serious war this country has ever faced against an opponent like none we have ever faced. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]And yet, we play politics. We ignore the reality. We pretend they're just not there, at least until november. At least until we can get control. And then maybe we'll come to our senses and recognize the grave threat that confronts our country. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]No, the president did not give a political speech last night. He spoke the reality of the conflict that is before us. It is not popular to do so. I know. It is not popular to stand up and support a conflict that is difficult — difficult — to deal with every day. But understand that's exactly what they have in mind. Did you ever wonder why they don't kill 3,000 people in one day? I mean, they have the capability of doing so. You just send out, instead of one every day or two every day, you send out 200 in one day. Why not? Why don't they just have one mass, huge offensive? Because that's not what they are all about. That's not terror as a tactic. Terror as a tactic is every single day cause death. It doesn't matter who, but just cause death. So why? To defeat the military? No. Their objective isn't to defeat the military or drive back the lines of our troops or to control more area. No. Those deaths are not aimed at They are aimed at us. our military. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]Every day they want to make it harder for you and you and you to open the paper, to turn on the television, to see more death. It's just a steady drum isbeat of the psychological war of terror being inflicted on the american public. They will keep up the drumbeat every single day, not in big conflagrations. Every day to make it painful, to make it hard. They want one thing out of us. They know our military — and i'm going to submit for the record a serviceman who wrote me who provided his experience in iraq of success, i might add. Our military knows that they must win this war and they are succeeding at some level. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]They're not attacking our military. They're attacking us psychologically every single day unless until finally they get us to say one word — enough "enough." Enough. We've had enough. We can't take this anymore. It's just too hard. They believe we will say "enough "enough." Because they believe we are weak weak. They believe that we in the modern world just don't have the stomach to fight and die for what we believe in anymore. We like our things too much. And so we will just leave them alone until they get stronger and stronger, in a position to do more and more damage to our children and grandchildren. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]The president is right. This is our hour. We can play politics with the hour, we can seek political advantage and to win the next election with this hour. We can confront the reality of this hour and do something about it. On my watch, even though i'm ing what many consider to be face a difficult time back in pennsylvania — on my watch, i'm going to confront the reality of the threat to me, to this country and to our children and grandchildren. It is just too important to walk away and play politics to get re reelected. It is too important to the future of this country to minimize the threat that we are engaged in and play politics with it. It may win and lose elections. Matters not to me. Matters not to me. What matters is, defending our country when it needs to be defended. Not putting personal politics above what's the best interests of the national security of this country. [/FONT]

[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]I believe the president, given all the mistakes that this administration has made in the conduct of this war — and they certainly are numerous — the president has it right. This is the greatest threat for our generation, and i pray we have the courage to confront it.
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Posted at 11:16 AM
 
He sounds like me and I ain't trying to be funny ................ I've posted alot of content like that on FF. Some just don't get it................:confused:

:applause: ............ I'm proud of Rick and to be a Pennsylvanian!

Specter needs to take heed or retire!
 
Hey, even I liked that speech. Good post PB.
 
Big Dog said:
He sounds like me and I ain't trying to be funny ................
BD, I have been with you all along. I thought the speech was damn good but I knew someone would drag it down.


murph
 
Doc said:
Hey, even I liked that speech. Good post PB.

It's one of those Idealist speeches that candidates make. I'm too much of a pessimist to believe it would have any effect.

Sorry if it got anyone's hopes up. I'm skeptical that any one person can effect significant and effective change in Washington.
 
"...[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]The very people that planned the attacks are the people who are in iraq — al qaeda — in iraq causing that sectarian violence. Should we ignore that i would ask the senator from nevada? Should we just ignore that? That doesn't exist? Just pretend that they're not there, not talk about that last night, pretend that al qaeda is not in iraq, this is not part of the mission that we are trying to accomplish? "

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[FONT=Verdana,helvetica]Of course, al Queda is in Iraq. The are causing the violence. Of course, it exists. We can't pretend that they're not there. They are our enemy, and they are in Iraq to fight us.

There is no disputing those facts.

They were NOT there before we attacked Iraq. There was no reason for us to attack Iraq. Let's think for a second; does it make sense that if we attack a nation for no good reason, that someone might be just a tad upset about it? Someone who didn't like us in the first place?

After we attacked Iraq, an attack with no provocation and and interference with no invitation, the followers of al Queda rushed into the country, and they have been dedicated to causing us as much havoc as they can, ever since.

This was widely predicted before the invasion. The Bush folks were warned that if they attacked, the would be creating more terrorists and causing more fighting in Iraq. But, they chose to ignore the warnings. We may never know the real reason they attacked, but they did.

They upset a stable situation in which Saddam had control of his people and we had control of Saddam. They removed the stabilizing factors. They disbanded the entire Iraqi police and military forces with no adequate controls ready to take their place. They create a void which the al Queda terrorists rushed into from all over the world.

Now, that colossal mistake has cost nearly 3,000 Americans their lives, between 10,000 and 20,000 wounded and changed for life, and more Iraqis killed than were ever killed by Saddam in his most brutal hours.

All because the Bush administration invaded Iraq.

And, now, Rick Santorum stands up and supports that policy?

Is he serious? And, are you all serious for supporting him?

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Don,
I agree with you that Iraq was possibly the biggest mistake made by a US president. It has put our nation in a precarious position. But it's done. We can't just up and leave. We need to move on from this point and try to repair the damage that has been done. But like PB said, it's a campaign speech. Not likely he would get the support of everyone in both houses if he were president.
 
There you go again Don.................... anybody that thinks that Iraq wasn't a haven for terrorist before the war, like yourself, is in your words stupid! You need to do more research, terrorist have been in Iraq a long time! Your too easy to disprove.......... :whistle:

Excerpt from an easy find and there are many more like it...............

In June 2002, U.S. officials say intelligence had revealed that Zarqawi and members of al-Qaida had set up a weapons lab at Kirma, in northern Iraq, producing deadly ricin and cyanide.

BTW........... I still support him!
 
Big Dog said:
BTW........... I still support him!
As do I. He and and our Congresswoman Melissa Hart. :thumb:

Now, Senator Arlen Specter... A conversation for a different thread.:whistle:
 
Big Dog said:
He sounds like me and I ain't trying to be funny ................ I've posted alot of content like that on FF. Some just don't get it................:confused:


BD for President......!!!!:D


....good one
 
Hummmmmmmmmmm ....................... stifling silence in here!

Probably need a bump .............................................. :thumb:

Kerry campaign:
"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."
CIA Analysis, January 2003: Iraqi Support for Terrorism, (p. 314 of Senate Intel Report):
"Iraq has a long history of supporting terrorism."


Kerry campaign:
"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."
CIA Analysis, January 2003--Iraqi Support for Terrorism, (p. 314 of Senate Intel Report):
"Iraq continues to be a safehaven, transit point, or operational node for groups and individuals who direct violence against the United States, Israel and other allies."


Kerry campaign:
"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."
Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 315):
"The CIA provided 78 reports, from multiple sources, [redacted] documenting instances in which the Iraqi regime either trained operatives for attacks or dispatched them to carry out attacks."


Kerry campaign:
"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."
Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 316):
"Iraq continued to participate in terrorist attacks throughout the 1990s."


Kerry campaign:
"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."
Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 316):
"From 1996 to 2003, the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] focused its terrorist activities on western interests, particularly against the U.S. and Israel."


Kerry campaign:
"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."
Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 316):
"Throughout 2002, the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] was becoming increasingly aggressive in planning attacks against U.S. interests. The CIA provided eight reports to support this assessment."


Kerry campaign:
"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."
Bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee Report (p. 331):
"Twelve reports received [redacted] from sources that the CIA described as having varying reliability, cited Iraq or Iraqi national involvement in al Qaeda's [chemical, biological, nuclear] CBW efforts."


Kerry campaign:
"There was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war."
The 9/11 Commission Report (p. 66):
"In March 1998, after bin Laden's public fatwa against the United States, two al Qaeda members reportedly went to Iraq to meet with Iraq Intelligence. In July, an Iraqi delegation traveled to Afghanistan to meet first with the Taliban and then with bin Laden."


The Kerry campaign eagerly "clarified" the senator's claim that soldiers in Iraq had died "on behalf of freedom in the war on terror." Any chance of another clarification? Does John Kerry really believe that "there was no terrorism in Iraq before we went to war?
 
By now I'm sure he's changed his mind ....probably two or three times.

I felt like I was reading a broken record :D

I predict he will not be the democratic nominee in 08. :D

....really I thought you just wanted to bring back the thread where is said:
BD for president. :yankchain:
 
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