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Very interesting, and it is typical of the 'enviornmentalists' to be the first to oppose something like that. Apparently they would rather have mountains of trash building up in municipal landfills? And while the landfills pile high with trash, we are burning coal and oil to generate electricity, both of which create all sorts of nasty emissions. So here comes a possible solution, or a possible partial solution, to our overflowing garbage problems and as a side benefit spins off electrical power generation, all at lower emission levels than we currently see. Yup, seems reasonable to stand in the way of that!
I hope they build it and I hope it works. It really could change the world if it is successful. If it is not successful then only private investors stand to lose since no county money is being used to float the bonds to finance this project. Also, if it turns out to produce higher emission levels than is claimed then the enviornmentalists would be able to make a good case, although not a perfect one, because this process still would resolve a lot of our pollution problems AND a lot of our energy issues too.
I hope they build it and I hope it works. It really could change the world if it is successful. If it is not successful then only private investors stand to lose since no county money is being used to float the bonds to finance this project. Also, if it turns out to produce higher emission levels than is claimed then the enviornmentalists would be able to make a good case, although not a perfect one, because this process still would resolve a lot of our pollution problems AND a lot of our energy issues too.
Yep, that's right here. Interestingly, it builds on technology that is already state of the art that's been in place here for several years. I've mentioned it before; the building shown is where all trash is dumped and rough-sorted on a concrete floor by front end loaders, then fed into hoppers where it is further sorted for recyclables, and the biodegradable waste is baled into tight bales to save space. These are trucked to the top of the landfill and carefully stacked rather than just being dumped.
The landfill produces a large quantity of methane gas which is piped to a huge Tropicana juice processing plant on the next property, where it is burned to produce steam to process the juice. Tropicana paid the costs of the methane processing at the landfill, the pipe, and the conversion of their burners. They get a reduced rate on the gas until the County's share of the equipment is paid off, The gas is being sold at about 1/3 of the cost that Tropicana used to pay for natural gas, which is a win-win situation -- Tropicana saves money and the County makes money from something that used to go to waste.
When this 2-story bailing plant was constructed, it was the only one like it. We used to have guests from all over the world visiting to learn about it. So, this new plasma technology plant is very much in the tradition of our technology. Once again, our leaders have seen fit to be first and most of the County's residents, or at least who are awake enough to be aware of it, are rightly proud.
It is a Blue county, by the way, solidly in the Democratic column in every national election (some local Republicans are occasionally elected). The so-called environmentalists who may be against it are luddites who don't understand technology and how it can work harmoniously with the environment.
Tropicana will be coming off as a partner and big winner in this new technology, because now the steam will be produced at the dump and piped to the plant, saving them even more. I'm not sure, but I think they may be playing a financial part in this move like they did before with the methane. They are a valued partner and an example of how government and corporations should work together.
There is no local controversy about this new plasma plant that I know of. There was more controversy when they built the bailing plant, but it has worked out so well -- and paid for itself so well between recycling and the methane sales -- that no one is willing to criticize the commissioners, now.
This is the existing "dump":
The landfill produces a large quantity of methane gas which is piped to a huge Tropicana juice processing plant on the next property, where it is burned to produce steam to process the juice. Tropicana paid the costs of the methane processing at the landfill, the pipe, and the conversion of their burners. They get a reduced rate on the gas until the County's share of the equipment is paid off, The gas is being sold at about 1/3 of the cost that Tropicana used to pay for natural gas, which is a win-win situation -- Tropicana saves money and the County makes money from something that used to go to waste.
When this 2-story bailing plant was constructed, it was the only one like it. We used to have guests from all over the world visiting to learn about it. So, this new plasma technology plant is very much in the tradition of our technology. Once again, our leaders have seen fit to be first and most of the County's residents, or at least who are awake enough to be aware of it, are rightly proud.
It is a Blue county, by the way, solidly in the Democratic column in every national election (some local Republicans are occasionally elected). The so-called environmentalists who may be against it are luddites who don't understand technology and how it can work harmoniously with the environment.
Tropicana will be coming off as a partner and big winner in this new technology, because now the steam will be produced at the dump and piped to the plant, saving them even more. I'm not sure, but I think they may be playing a financial part in this move like they did before with the methane. They are a valued partner and an example of how government and corporations should work together.
There is no local controversy about this new plasma plant that I know of. There was more controversy when they built the bailing plant, but it has worked out so well -- and paid for itself so well between recycling and the methane sales -- that no one is willing to criticize the commissioners, now.
This is the existing "dump":
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What an eyesore that is! Man who would want that as a neighbor in your county even. Let nature take care of the garbage, bury it for future generations to use as well, junk.
Now that I have your attention, the numbnuts in KY, Louisville specifically burn the methane gas...................out of vent pipes at the dump, that usually smells like a dump (called landfill), that looks like a dump, that destroyed some wetlands (woops), and has basically been a flop. But we have some hole in the ground to dump our junk. Often wondered why they dont use the methane.
What an eyesore that is! Man who would want that as a neighbor in your county even. Let nature take care of the garbage, bury it for future generations to use as well, junk.
Now that I have your attention, the numbnuts in KY, Louisville specifically burn the methane gas...................out of vent pipes at the dump, that usually smells like a dump (called landfill), that looks like a dump, that destroyed some wetlands (woops), and has basically been a flop. But we have some hole in the ground to dump our junk. Often wondered why they dont use the methane.