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Kangaroo court in DC playing games with Obama SSN case

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I submitted an appeal in the District of Columbia, and there is a problem there. I filed appeals in the case against the Commissioner of Social Security, Taitz v. Astrue; and Taitz v. Ruemmler (White House Counsel Kathy Ruemmler). I got a letter saying I needed to pay $450 for each, so I sent two checks for $450 each. About a month later, I got a letter from the District Court saying that the fee is $455, not $450, and they voided those checks.

So I attached new checks and sent them with a letter for $455 each. I sent it certified mail and I have the receipt. Now I have a letter from the Court of Appeals saying that the fee is $450 and they didn’t get my checks. They also assigned a different number which I posted on my website. I sent a letter to them again with all of the exhibits and information. I could never even imagine what those people are doing: they’re not accepting documents, hiding documents, not accepting checks; they’re just playing games. I feel as if I’m back in the Soviet Union.
 
Duck and jive shuffle Chicago style. Hoping to stall it past the election filing times.
 
After three years we still don't know who this man is. No high school friends, no college buddies, no college scholarship info (just who paid for his education?), no university transcripts, no SSN, no nuttin'.

All we know about him is from his anti-colonist father, that he had one adult friend (an unrepentant terrorist) and a preacher that taught him the virtues of black liberation theology and collective salvation for twenty years.

All that we have learned about him is that he suffers from narcissistic personality disorder and grandiosity, but beyond that, nuttin'.

Maybe the left figures they will give him four more years to come straight.

Me? Knowing nothing is enough.
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Well one would think the following is easy enough to check if they really wanted too.

In late 1988, Obama entered Harvard Law School. He was selected as an editor of the Harvard Law Review at the end of his first year, and president of the journal in his second year.
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So I'm sure he published something and one of the other students there would of known of him.
 
joec said:
Well one would think the following is easy enough to check if they really wanted too.

So I'm sure he published something and one of the other students there would of known of him.
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You would think, wouldn't you joec. But not a soul has come forward.
 
Kane said:
You would think, wouldn't you joec. But not a soul has come forward.
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I wonder if anyone really looked, really. If they did their conspiracy theories to end all conspiracies would then be over. This has about as much in the way of truth as Bush had the twin towers destroyed. Hell every time people running for office sneeze it is noted by some opposition research group looking to bring them down. Like Hillary or McCain didn't both opposition research groups and never mind the press as they was in the Obama bag at the time.
 
joec said:
I wonder if anyone really looked, really. If they did their conspiracy theories to end all conspiracies would then be over. This has about as much in the way of truth as Bush had the twin towers destroyed. Hell every time people running for office sneeze it is noted by some opposition research group looking to bring them down. Like Hillary or McCain didn't both opposition research groups and never mind the press as they was in the Obama bag at the time.
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To my knowledge, there are but three people come forward to have known Obama during his college days at Columbia. The rest of his life-story is a blank sheet of paper. Transcripts sealed, scholarship info missing. I do recall early on during the 2008 election seeing one bit of scholarship paperwork listing him as a foreign exchange student, but it seems to have been scrubbed.
 
Now I have never seen anything on him and he was in government both state and national for a few years prior to even announcing he would run. He was even a speaker at a Democratic Convention and no one had him on the radar since then? For some reason I have serious doubts about that but at any rate it is what it is now and it is to me a waste to keep beating a dead horse as they say.
 
joec said:
Now I have never seen anything on him and he was in government both state and national for a few years prior to even announcing he would run. He was even a speaker at a Democratic Convention and no one had him on the radar since then? For some reason I have serious doubts about that but at any rate it is what it is now and it is to me a waste to keep beating a dead horse as they say.
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Well, it ain't exactly a dead horse if there is a chance he could by POTUS another four years. I wonder if the right will dig a little harder this time. Recall McCain vowed to not do the Bill Ayers thing in 2008, and only for Palin that ANY questions were asked.
 
Kane said:
To my knowledge, there are but three people come forward to have known Obama during his college days at Columbia. The rest of his life-story is a blank sheet of paper. Transcripts sealed, scholarship info missing. I do recall early on during the 2008 election seeing one bit of scholarship paperwork listing him as a foreign exchange student, but it seems to have been scrubbed.
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Then there were those accusations about Obamas gay affairs that also seemed to be buryed very quickly, which I posted about the other day cuz I love beating dead horses when they stink that bad. :whistling:
 
joec said:
Now I have never seen anything on him and he was in government both state and national for a few years prior to even announcing he would run. He was even a speaker at a Democratic Convention and no one had him on the radar since then? For some reason I have serious doubts about that but at any rate it is what it is now and it is to me a waste to keep beating a dead horse as they say.
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You are, of course, quite right Joec.

There are some 11 million people here in the US with as valid a document as Bark Hussein Obama to qualify for a federal Government job.

Questioning their residency here is also "beating a dead Horse?"

The point you comments have missed is that any person who is asking for the public trust should have been vetted as legaly within the country. It is entirely possible therefore that Barry has not been so since his days at Harvard. And no one is allowed to question that?

I am not a "birther" but I understand the position of those who are. We get notices from Social Security when numbers are not valid. Those folks either prove they are right or they get fired. If not, I could be arrested for keeping them on my employment rolls.

How come Barry's invalid SS number is not questioned in the same way?
 
Because he has a valid SS number that is why. Now as I explained a couple of times before in regards to this. There is no requirement nor has there ever been a requirement to be a resident of a state to apply and get a SS card. They don't even use the first digits any more to designate the state it was issued. So in a word the location means nothing really.

The example I use is I happen to of been born and raised in Florida and got my SS card there. Now all my kids where born there also however 2 have their SS issued in other states as they never got one when they was in Florida. Both went into the service right out of high school with only part time jobs not requiring them to have one. Now both got their first SS Card in Boot Camp one in San Diego the other in Georgia.

I've also heard theories put forward that both his mother and father where working for the CIA and hence the limited background on any of them.
 
joec said:
Because he has a valid SS number that is why. Now as I explained a couple of times before in regards to this. There is no requirement nor has there ever been a requirement to be a resident of a state to apply and get a SS card. They don't even use the first digits any more to designate the state it was issued. So in a word the location means nothing really.

The example I use is I happen to of been born and raised in Florida and got my SS card there. Now all my kids where born there also however 2 have their SS issued in other states as they never got one when they was in Florida. Both went into the service right out of high school with only part time jobs not requiring them to have one. Now both got their first SS Card in Boot Camp one in San Diego the other in Georgia.

I've also heard theories put forward that both his mother and father where working for the CIA and hence the limited background on any of them.
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You have yo understand, joec, that this isn't Obama's first SSN card. He's had three that I've been made aware of, along with a couple names. I'll find the old link again when I have some time.
 
Kane said:
You have yo understand, joec, that this isn't Obama's first SSN card. He's had three that I've been made aware of, along with a couple names. I'll find the old link again when I have some time.
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Really now that I would like to see proof off as that might convince me this isn't pure conspiracy theory along the lines of Manchurian Candidate on steroids.
 
What source says that Obama's SSN is invalid?

What source says that Obama has 3 different SSN's?
 
joec said:
Because he has a valid SS number that is why. Now as I explained a couple of times before in regards to this. There is no requirement nor has there ever been a requirement to be a resident of a state to apply and get a SS card. They don't even use the first digits any more to designate the state it was issued. So in a word the location means nothing really.

The example I use is I happen to of been born and raised in Florida and got my SS card there. Now all my kids where born there also however 2 have their SS issued in other states as they never got one when they was in Florida. Both went into the service right out of high school with only part time jobs not requiring them to have one. Now both got their first SS Card in Boot Camp one in San Diego the other in Georgia.

I've also heard theories put forward that both his mother and father where working for the CIA and hence the limited background on any of them.
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Your "Now as I explained a couple of times before in regards to this." is more an indictment than an explanation to excuse Obama.
1. Your kids were IN the state where they got their SS#. I am sure the first 3 numbers will match up with the state where they got them. Obama was NEVER IN Connecticutt. A place where he would have had to be in order to legally get the number he is using.
2. The Social Security Administration I am sure would verify your kids were issued the number they are using. The SSA will not verify Obama's SS#. But the SSA HAS VERIFIED that Obama was NEVER ISSUED the SS# Obama is using.
3. I bet your kids' SS#'s would pass E-verify. Obama's SS# failed E-verify

Now please explain how and on what basis you claim that Obama's SS# is valid.
 
You do realize that when Obama was a child his mother, father, grandparents etc could of applied for his Social Security card the same as my wife did and got one for my daughter when she was still and infant. By the way times have changed a lot since then as the first 3 number no longer designate the state and they are issued at birth today.

There is also the theory out there that his parents were CIA operatives which could also be an explanation. There is a book out there based on that theory also. Now I personally don't buy either of these but as I said one would think it really doesn't matter much at this point. We would be stuck with him now.
 
joec said:
You do realize that when Obama was a child his mother, father, grandparents etc could of applied for his Social Security card the same as my wife did and got one for my daughter when she was still and infant. By the way times have changed a lot since then as the first 3 number no longer designate the state and they are issued at birth today.

There is also the theory out there that his parents were CIA operatives which could also be an explanation. There is a book out there based on that theory also. Now I personally don't buy either of these but as I said one would think it really doesn't matter much at this point. We would be stuck with him now.
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And there is the theory that he was placed here by alien extraterrestrial. So,

Newly postulated theories don't discount or debunk older ones. There simply would be no reason for a Connecticut SSN which in 1959 still used the state ID in the first 3 digits.

But nothing is proven by that. After all, he could have gottenthe SS# as a foreign exchange student living there when he went to Harvard. Or any of the Ivy league institutions from which virtualy no one seems to remember him attending.

Other than publishing the law review at Harvard he must have been a rather unremarkable student. At least Billy Clinton and his willy had the female crowd noting his presence. :whistling:

As For passing E-verify, I guess I don't have to hire Barry if he turns up at my door.
A good thing because I wouldn't.

So, Why do we have to hire him again for Prez?:ermm:
 
So you believe this BS Franc? I don't know why I figured you would be above the birther stuff. I guess not though. :unsure:
 
Here is Bari Shabazz SSN issued mid 1970's NYC typically when 1st job required it. Obama family narrative 1st job was at a DQ in mid 70's... Now, poor Obama's CT stolen SSN was 1st used to doctor selective service registration in 1988, and caught attempting to retroactive it 1981 ish.

Obama & Bill Ayres at Columbia U NYC in 1981, What was that SSN Obama used to register earlier at Occidental College in CA?

Now lessee that weather underground armored car shootout - cop[ killing, was 1981 in NY with operatives using stolen CT ID's, thanks to Bernadette Dohrn aka future Mrs. Bill Ayres, one carload of operatives escaped, including a black man.

http://terribletruth.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/bari%e2%80%b2-barry-barack/

I’ve got tragic news to report, on this All Souls Day: in August 1994, at the prime-of-life age of 34, five years younger than was his father Malcolm at his untimely death, Bâri′ M. Shabazz was reported to have died.
From the Social Security Death Index database:
SHABAZZ, B M 28 Oct 1959 Aug 1994 (V) 34 (PE) (none specified) New York 084-54-5926
Hmmm ….. August 1994: Bâri′ M. Shabazz has passed on.
Oh dear. Whatever will become of all those Dreams Bâri′ was conceived to carry forth?
Not to worry. He didn’t really die. His birth identity ‘had’ to die.
Why?
Let’s see. 1994. 1994. Oh! That’s right! On 21 August 1994, the Illinois State Senate seat ‘officially’ opened up! Its occupant, Alice Palmer – for whom “Barack Obama” was working – could now set her sights on indicted Mel Reynolds’ Congressional seat.
“Barack Obama” was prepping to step out as a political candidate!!
“Congressman Mel Reynolds, the Democrat convicted of 12 charges, including sex with 16-year-old Beverly Heard and asking her to take pornographic photographs of a 15-year old, was indicted on August 21, 1994.”
http://newsbusters.org/node/8110#ixzz1OM9ilHH9
What with his prodigious plans, “Barack Obama” certainly couldn’t risk having Bâri′ M. Shabazz walking around, now, could he?!
A simple report was all that was needed.
The SSDI record states that the death information for Bâri′ M. Shabazz was coded “V”.
V signifies: “Verified: Report verified with a family member or someone acting on behalf of a family member.”
The report is not coded “P“.
P signifies: “(Proof): Death Certificate Observed”.
This distinction is critical.Notice of death was made by an informant who did not present verification of his/her reporting, that is, no death certificate was presented with the notification of death.
“SSA receives reports of death from a variety of sources, including friends and relatives of deceased individuals, funeral homes, postal authorities, financial institutions, and Federal and State agencies. Friends, relatives, and funeral homes report about 90 percent of deaths. Postal authorities and financial institutions report another 5 percent of deaths.”
Once in the federal system, the record was flagged as ‘PE’, meaning that an inconsistency exists between what was reported and what was recorded in the government’s files.
Oooops.
Complications.
And now, since you’ve had the forbearance to read along this far, I offer you comic relief.
The first listed address for Bâri′ M. Shabazz is: guess where?
One street over from Malcolm X’s house!
From baby’s conception in 1959 through shortly before Malcolm’s death in 1965, Malcolm lived just one street over from Bâri′ M. Shabazz’s first address in East Elmhurst, New York.
The first address listed for Bâri′ M. Shabazz is 32-26 98th Street, Apt.1, East Elmhurst, New York.
Malcolm’s 1959 address was 25-46 99th Street, East Elmhurst, New York.
Malcolm and his family resided at 23-11 97th St. East Elmhurst, New York, from July 1960 through February 18, 1965, three days before his death.
BM Shabazz (Bari M Shabazz)
B 10/28/59
D 8/94
SSN 084545926
Residences
Street Address City Name on phone Phone #
1 3226 98TH ST APT 1 EAST ELMHURST, NY 11369
2 32 98 EAST ELMHURST, NY 11369
3 HQCO SUC BN QUANTICO, VA
4 1 HQ CO MCDEC QUANTICO, VA
5 HQ CO SERV BN QUANTICO, VA
6 99999 MILITARY APT QUANTICO, VA 22134
7 HQCO HQSVCBN MCDEC QUANTICO, VA 22134
8 HQCO SERV BN QUANTICO, VA
9 99999 MILITARY APT QUANTICO, VA 22134
Source: Intellius.
 
joec said:
You do realize that when Obama was a child his mother, father, grandparents etc could of applied for his Social Security card the same as my wife did and got one for my daughter when she was still and infant. By the way times have changed a lot since then as the first 3 number no longer designate the state and they are issued at birth today.

There is also the theory out there that his parents were CIA operatives which could also be an explanation. There is a book out there based on that theory also. Now I personally don't buy either of these but as I said one would think it really doesn't matter much at this point. We would be stuck with him now.
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Joe listen to yourself. Reality is Obama, his daddy, his mommy, his grand parents both paternal and maternal NEVER were in Connecticutt. His Aunt and Uncle who are here also never lived in Connecticutt. Remember he said he never knew they were in the U.S. That may be true because they are here illegally too. When Obama supposedly got his SS# the first 3 numbers WERE ASSIGNED according to the States where the cards were applied for.

You have absolutely no way to show Obama's use of SS#
042-68-4425 is legal. He is using a fake I.D. and you are condoning his use of it by trying to defend him. Surely now you can see how he is using people like you to cover his crime. You said you got your SS# in Fla. So ask yourself if you never were in Fla and none of your family were ever in Fla. how would it be legal for you to use a Fla. SS# ? The reality is it would not be legal. There is no way Obama is using a legal SS#. The Social Security Administration HAS VERIFIED THE SS# Obama IS USING WAS NOT ISSUED TO HIM. E-VERIFY HAS VERIFIED HIS SS# TO NOT BE VALID FOR Obama. You can not get around the fact OBAMA IS USING A FRAUDULENT SS#.
 
joec said:
So you believe this BS Franc? I don't know why I figured you would be above the birther stuff. I guess not though. :unsure:
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I am not a birther sir. Pay attention please as I have said it often.

I do however have to question the facts as presented in the OP. Whenever and whereever anyone has attempted to get this question resolved in court, they have been stymied by proceedural BullShit. The pervasivenous of this tactic has prevented any suit from ever being presented in a Court.
That sir, troubles me and it should trouble you.

I have had to prove my birthbplace and my birthright many times. I don't have my finger on the proverbial Nuclear button and, more importantly, a key to the Treasury.
And now, by law, I must verify the birthright eligibility of every person I hire. If I fail to do so, I can gaurrentee myself some time in a courtroom proving something. But it would appear, I am not allowed to question a man from Kenya/Indonisia,Hawaii(maybe) who can send my children to war.


If we are a nation of laws, equaly employed, then explain the difference.
 
Oh, I suppose it could just be a mistake.

The SSN's of a person born (or applying for SSN) in Connecticut usually begins with a zero (0). The SSN of a person in Hawaii usually begins with a nine (9). So maybe someone just entered the first number as a zero when they should have correctly entered a nine.

Just sayin'.
 
Kane said:
Oh, I suppose it could just be a mistake.

The SSN's of a person born (or applying for SSN) in Connecticut usually begins with a zero (0). The SSN of a person in Hawaii usually begins with a nine (9). So maybe someone just entered the first number as a zero when they should have entered a nine.

Just sayin'.
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Kane, clearly anything is possible. Including the charges that Barry is a poser. Doesn't matter at this point because the damage is done. SCOTUS won't touch this under any circumstances, 50% of the populatin still wants their benes,,,,,,, and, so,,,,we are stuck with him.
 
Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. So perhaps it was a combinations of education loans, parents help and working while going to school I would guess is to how he paid for his education.
 
joec said:
Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. So perhaps it was a combinations of education loans, parents help and working while going to school I would guess is to how he paid for his education.
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That's a lot of high-priced education. You can strike "parents help" and "working", so how did Obama pay for so much school?
 
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