Herman Cain's 999 Plan

[Melensdad]

And the Democrats have NO man in the field qualified to be President.

Funny how folks on the GOP side must have foreign relations experience when the current President had none, which is also true of most past Presidents.

Seems like you have a huge double standard.

 

[joec]

I agree with you Mel hence I didn't vote for Obama or McCain as both went against what I felt was needed at the time. I might add Obama won't get a vote from me next time either as will none of the republicans.

When you stop and think about the world we live in foreign relations experience is critical or they might start a war they can't win regardless of military might. No double standard from me, Clinton, Bush 2 and Obama where flat not qualified. Now Bush 1 was though Reagan wasn't but he had good script writers (people behind him that did know how the world works).

 

[Melensdad]

Actually I think Ron Paul is qualified for President regarding the Foreign Relations criteria that you set.

However, you may not like his foreign policy. His policy is to shut down our foreign bases, bring our troops home, station them here on US soil, set up our border defense and stay out of the foreign affairs of other nations. Some people don't agree with that. It is, however, the model followed by Switzerland.

 

[joec]

Actually I think Ron Paul is qualified for President regarding the Foreign Relations criteria that you set.

However, you may not like his foreign policy. His policy is to shut down our foreign bases, bring our troops home, station them here on US soil, set up our border defense and stay out of the foreign affairs of other nations. Some people don't agree with that. It is, however, the model followed by Switzerland.

I would have no problem with Paul's foreign policy but his domestic is what turns me off to him. Besides he is a perpetual candidate and can't seem to figure out he isn't going to win as a republican.

 

[Dargo]

I agree with this Jim with some caveats and also why a flat tax isn't fair in most cases. Now as you said the 50% that don't pay taxes is a really not actually true unless you are completely on Social Security, welfare or unemployed, disabled. Everyone that works in a ligament job pays FICA which is in the 13% range. They also pay income tax though they may get back most if not all of what they paid.

I've done the taxes for several relatives for years using TurboTax. They in fact pay NO taxes. They actually MAKE MONEY come tax time! Every one of them realizes that there is something very, very wrong with our tax system, but clearly they aren't going to give their refunds back. Their refunds and credits exceed FICA and any state and/or local taxes collected during the year. It is truly a net gain for them. Our tax system is broken beyond repair.

I'm 100% for Cain simply because he will force our country to do something about our ignorant tax plan. Our own IRS personnel who man the phones do not understand our tax code. They can't, it's over 20,000 pages long! There have been too many years of bleeding heart, buy your vote, Democrats such as Pelosi, Boxer, etc. destroying our country in order to stay in power. We need a powerful wake up to our tax code and our 'world police' stance. With Cain, we would get action on this issue and this issue is what is sinking our country. Just look at what Kalifornia did to buy votes; they allowed in state tuition and grants to ILLEGALS!!! How freaking stupid can you get?! Who is going to pay for their tuition, room & board and books? Kalifornia is already broke yet they keep doing more stupid things. Sometimes you need to throw a grenade in and start all over again.

 

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Actually I think Ron Paul is qualified for President regarding the Foreign Relations criteria that you set.

However, you may not like his foreign policy. His policy is to shut down our foreign bases, bring our troops home, station them here on US soil, set up our border defense and stay out of the foreign affairs of other nations. Some people don't agree with that. It is, however, the model followed by Switzerland.

Hmmm . . . isn't Switzerland's economy doing pretty well right now?

 

[joec]

I've done the taxes for several relatives for years using TurboTax. They in fact pay NO taxes. They actually MAKE MONEY come tax time! Every one of them realizes that there is something very, very wrong with our tax system, but clearly they aren't going to give their refunds back. Their refunds and credits exceed FICA and any state and/or local taxes collected during the year. It is truly a net gain for them. Our tax system is broken beyond repair.

I'm 100% for Cain simply because he will force our country to do something about our ignorant tax plan. Our own IRS personnel who man the phones do not understand our tax code. They can't, it's over 20,000 pages long! There have been too many years of bleeding heart, buy your vote, Democrats such as Pelosi, Boxer, etc. destroying our country in order to stay in power. We need a powerful wake up to our tax code and our 'world police' stance. With Cain, we would get action on this issue and this issue is what is sinking our country. Just look at what Kalifornia did to buy votes; they allowed in state tuition and grants to ILLEGALS!!! How freaking stupid can you get?! Who is going to pay for their tuition, room & board and books? Kalifornia is already broke yet they keep doing more stupid things. Sometimes you need to throw a grenade in and start all over again.

I agree our tax code is broken and needs to be scrapped completely. As to if Cain has the plan as I said I don't know if it is good or bad. I don't have enough in detail to make a final decision on it. In addition to that Presidents don't make laws which should be obvious to most even with a majority of their party in Congress. Getting congress to go in lock step with any president can be like herding cats most of the time.

We need cuts for sure, but the right cuts and over time. We also need to get this country back to work and produce something besides hedge fund managers and hamburger flippers. If you haven't figured out by now I'm no friend to illegals regardless nor of the people that hire them. Remember I was born and raised in Miami BC (before Cubans) and saw my hometown turned into a foreign country over a span of two decades. I have nothing personal against Cubans other than they didn't join society they took it over and supplanted it with theirs.

 

[Dargo]

I agree our tax code is broken and needs to be scrapped completely. As to if Cain has the plan as I said I don't know if it is good or bad. I don't have enough in detail to make a final decision on it.

We need cuts for sure, but the right cuts and over time. We also need to get this country back to work and produce something besides hedge fund managers and hamburger flippers. If you haven't figured out by now I'm no friend to illegals regardless nor of the people that hire them. Remember I was born and raised in Miami BC (before Cubans) and saw my hometown turned into a foreign country over a span of two decades.

Hot damn, we agree. I'm not particularly for Cain's plan, it's the fact that electing him would force some sort of tax code reform that appeals to me. I know no more than you on his 999 plan. I agree, it won't work as written, nor would it pass. I just think we need an election where congress realizes that to get votes they will have to work on the tax code and the economy.

I love your Miami BC. I haven't heard that one. However, I'll vote for any party that stops spending my tax dollars to give aid to ILLEGALS over U.S. citizens who were born and raised here!! If the governor of Kalifornia, or any other state, would give benefits to ILLEGALS that would not first be extended to my children, they need to be immediately removed from office with prejudice.

 

[joec]

I'm not sure the President regardless is where to start to make the point about the tax code. I rarely vote any more for any presidential candidate due to the fact it really doesn't matter much. Now Representatives and Senators I always vote on as they are the ones that spend our money.

I agree with much said here, way more than many would guess. I don't respond to many of the ones I agree with, unless it has something I don't understand, raises a question in me or in my opinion is just plan skewed to some programed way of thinking.

 

[Dargo]

I'm not sure the President regardless is where to start to make the point about the tax code. I rarely vote any more for any presidential candidate due to the fact it really doesn't matter much. Now Representatives and Senators I always vote on as they are the ones that spend our money.

Unfortunately, in the last few decades we've had presidents from both parties push the envelope on what they 'can' and 'can't' do. Until we get a congress that has a set of balls and actually throws a president out of office for over stepping his bounds, I think this trend will continue. If you take the blacks out, (since most openly admit they support Obama simply because he's black) only about 25% approve of this president and as a whole about the same percentage of the population approves of congress. That's pretty sad. If we don't have a proverbial grenade go off and shake things up in a major way, we are in big trouble. Obama is a complete and total joke and people best qualified to run the country don't want the job, so we really don't have any strong contenders. Man, talk about depressing...

 

[joec]

Unfortunately, in the last few decades we've had presidents from both parties push the envelope on what they 'can' and 'can't' do. Until we get a congress that has a set of balls and actually throws a president out of office for over stepping his bounds, I think this trend will continue. If you take the blacks out, (since most openly admit they support Obama simply because he's black) only about 25% approve of this president and as a whole about the same percentage of the population approves of congress. That's pretty sad. If we don't have a proverbial grenade go off and shake things up in a major way, we are in big trouble. Obama is a complete and total joke and people best qualified to run the country don't want the job, so we really don't have any strong contenders. Man, talk about depressing...

We agree again, damn twice within 24 hours.