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College Loan Forgiveness program ends, looks like consumer spending will collapse this fall?

Melensdad

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Close family friends of ours have been counting on the gubmint eliminating some of their college debt. Whenever the topic is brought up I tend to pour cold water on their dreams. The oddsmakers have been betting that this is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court will rule on it, but they seemed pre-disposed to trashing it during the oral argument phase. Now the debt ceiling deal seems to have ended the program.

Logically if free spenders have to start to repay loans, and if those loans have accrued even more interest, then these loan payments will cut into spendable money. Spendable money will be reduced and the economy will take a down turn. It just makes sense.



FULL STORY AT THE LINK ABOVE from ZeroHedge

The Great Student Loan Nonpayment Boondoggle Is Over And Household Spending Is About To Collapse

In the small print detailing the end of the debt ceiling melodrama which, as we explained, is a farce as it boosts inflation-adjusted spending contrary to Republican promises, there was some actual news: the great student loan boondoggle is about to come to a screeching halt, after a three year "emergency pause" which redirected tens of billions in dollars away from mandatory student loan repayment to other forms of discretionary spending.
According to Goldman, the agreement announced on Saturday between uniparty leaders Joe Biden and Kevin McCarthy titled hilariously the “Fiscal Responsibility Act”, prohibits the Biden Administration from extending the pause on student loan repayments in place since March 2020, even if it does not block the Administration's student loan forgiveness plan, which would wipe out up to $20,000 in federal loans per borrower and is currently being weighed by the Supreme Court (the plan was announced last year but has not yet implemented).
Here are the details: late last year, Biden extended the repayment pause, which postpones roughly $5bn per month in student loan repayments, until 60 days after the Supreme Court ruled on the separate $400bn loan forgiveness plan the - the Supreme Court is likely to rule on loan forgiveness in June, so this likely would mean a restart of payments after August 2023.
And now, the debt limit agreement prohibits further extension of the payment pause, but remains silent on the student loan forgiveness plan which however will be nixed by SCOTUS much to the chagrin of screaming libs and lifelong members of the "free $hit" army. Prior to the announced debt limit deal Goldman had already assumed the repayment pause would end on schedule, though there was clearly a chance the White House might have extended it once again. The debt limit agreement eliminates that possibility (“except as expressly authorized by an act of Congress") and should result in a restart of student loan payments in September 2023.
What happens then?
Well, according to Jefferies, the return of monthly loan payments presents risks similar to the effects of the 2013 fiscal cliff, when tax increases led to reduced consumer spending. And in a note released Monday (available to pro subscribers), JPMorgan’s chief US economist Michael Feroli said that the end of the payment moratorium will reduce annual disposable personal income by $38 billion, which will reduce consumer spending. . .
 
I frankly doubt this kind of common sense will actually happen. These same wild-eyed "Please elect me" politicians arwe the same ones touted reparations at a cost of 13 Trillion bucks.

How many of these students saved money in the event reality set in and they had to resume payments?
 
How many of these students saved money in the event reality set in and they had to resume payments?
Uh, none of them!

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We are 31-Trillion in debt, more inflation will drive the interest rate higher, Im almost happy I am retiring in the next couple years. Doing business going forward is going to be rough. The student loan fiasco is just another nail in the coffin of the quality of life for many in the near future. I just hope I have enough retirement income to stay ahead of it.
 
Close family friends of ours have been counting on the gubmint eliminating some of their college debt. Whenever the topic is brought up I tend to pour cold water on their dreams. The oddsmakers have been betting that this is unconstitutional. The Supreme Court will rule on it, but they seemed pre-disposed to trashing it during the oral argument phase. Now the debt ceiling deal seems to have ended the program.

Logically if free spenders have to start to repay loans, and if those loans have accrued even more interest, then these loan payments will cut into spendable money. Spendable money will be reduced and the economy will take a down turn. It just makes sense.



FULL STORY AT THE LINK ABOVE from ZeroHedge

The Great Student Loan Nonpayment Boondoggle Is Over And Household Spending Is About To Collapse

In the small print detailing the end of the debt ceiling melodrama which, as we explained, is a farce as it boosts inflation-adjusted spending contrary to Republican promises, there was some actual news: the great student loan boondoggle is about to come to a screeching halt, after a three year "emergency pause" which redirected tens of billions in dollars away from mandatory student loan repayment to other forms of discretionary spending.
According to Goldman, the agreement announced on Saturday between uniparty leaders Joe Biden and Kevin McCarthy titled hilariously the “Fiscal Responsibility Act”, prohibits the Biden Administration from extending the pause on student loan repayments in place since March 2020, even if it does not block the Administration's student loan forgiveness plan, which would wipe out up to $20,000 in federal loans per borrower and is currently being weighed by the Supreme Court (the plan was announced last year but has not yet implemented).
Here are the details: late last year, Biden extended the repayment pause, which postpones roughly $5bn per month in student loan repayments, until 60 days after the Supreme Court ruled on the separate $400bn loan forgiveness plan the - the Supreme Court is likely to rule on loan forgiveness in June, so this likely would mean a restart of payments after August 2023.
And now, the debt limit agreement prohibits further extension of the payment pause, but remains silent on the student loan forgiveness plan which however will be nixed by SCOTUS much to the chagrin of screaming libs and lifelong members of the "free $hit" army. Prior to the announced debt limit deal Goldman had already assumed the repayment pause would end on schedule, though there was clearly a chance the White House might have extended it once again. The debt limit agreement eliminates that possibility (“except as expressly authorized by an act of Congress") and should result in a restart of student loan payments in September 2023.
What happens then?
Well, according to Jefferies, the return of monthly loan payments presents risks similar to the effects of the 2013 fiscal cliff, when tax increases led to reduced consumer spending. And in a note released Monday (available to pro subscribers), JPMorgan’s chief US economist Michael Feroli said that the end of the payment moratorium will reduce annual disposable personal income by $38 billion, which will reduce consumer spending. . .
Just think how great the country would be if we added house and car payments to the loan forgiveness.
 
Just think how great the country would be if we added house and car payments to the loan forgiveness.
Well the same family to which I was referring in the first post just bought a new-to-them used car. Payments are just over $800/month on that car. Just wondering out loud what is going to happen when they have to start paying back those 'paused' student loan payments?
 
If the people in the U.S. had to live on the money they make the economy would tank. I see people buying things and the only question they ask is what the monthly payment is. The price of what they are buying does not matter. If it is something that has delayed payments so much the better. I keep thinking how the U.S. is so deep in debt that there is no way they are going to pay it back. They will be lucky just to pay the interest. The majority of people are in the same shape as our country. Some of the people do live to learn what they have done. There does come a time they have to pay up. The politicians are not worried about something like that as they will not be in office when the things they buy will have to be paid for.
 
Well the same family to which I was referring in the first post just bought a new-to-them used car. Payments are just over $800/month on that car. Just wondering out loud what is going to happen when they have to start paying back those 'paused' student loan payments?

Do you mean they might start regretting some of their financial decisions?
 
Do you mean they might start regretting some of their financial decisions?
They might even start to regret their career choices because they majored in wimin’s studies, gender equity, and underwater basket weaving! With jobs for those fields of study limited to people who’s main job skill is repeating “… and do you want to Super Size that order?” some of these self-entitled graduates may actually have to pay the consequences for their choices.
 
I was raised to live within ones means. I could never understand how someone would never buy a car or house they could never afford the payments on, yet have no compunction about going to a college they cannot afford so they just blindly keep borrowing more and more for 4 years. I do not get that type of reasoning.
 
" . . . They might even start to regret their career choices because they majored in wimin’s studies, gender equity, and underwater basket weaving! . . . "

not likely. they will blame their own failure on the refusal of the white supremacist culture to require and pay for their (worthless) skills.

the whole DEI Officer thing is dying by cuts and firings of half-million cuts. universities paying DEI "Officers" $500k+ . . ?
for what, is being asked....

hire/admit the DEI candidate is turning out to be, as expected - same as "affirmative action" - nothing more than "racial discrimination."
Federal law regarding racial discrimination does _not_ provide or specify skin color. Federal "affirmative action" is based on being a minority . . . don't look now, but as the leftists are crowing about, white caucasians are becoming the minority.
POC are gonna' lose their mind when SCOTUS finds white people are the minority that all those laws were enacted to protect.

the basic concept of using race/skin color/ethnicity to advance or retard individuals success will fall.
either you are qualified and got the chops, or you ain't.
hiring/selecting/promoting unqualified people based on race/skin color/ethnicity is as wrong as denying individuals hiring/selection/promotion/advancement based on race/skin color/ethnicity.
 
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