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Denis

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So did they say it will be OK or they are done? I only put about 50 miles on mine before they got burned up. I wouldn't be very happy if I just spent 5k on a set and put a lot of miles on the first year and that happened. If they are done, you would think they should be recalled 200km isn't very far. The Mattracks ezutv tracks I have now, I will look for the ice build up.
They said that I would have a few more years of use. I am replacing the wheels right now. Also I set the tracks up in a way that I place the cracked area over the bogie so that it opens up and allows me to clean and prep and fill. I cut and clean the loose strings, clean and prepare the cracked area and using a loctite product to bind the rubber and string together and then putting a top coat on to keep snow and water from getting in. I have attached some pictures illustrating what I am doing. I'll let you know what happens after a weekend of play. track fix1.JPGtrack fix2.JPGtrack fix3.JPGtrack fix4.JPGtrack fix5.JPGtrack fix6.JPGtrack fix7.JPG
 

Denis

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We've not had good luck with Camso quality so we switched to Soucy. But no one is going to warrentee a 10yo product.
They said that I would have a few more years of use. I am replacing the wheels right now. Also I set the tracks up in a way that I place the cracked area over the bogie so that it opens up and allows me to clean and prep and fill. I cut and clean the loose strings, clean and prepare the cracked area and using a loctite product to bind the rubber and string together and then putting a top coat on to keep snow and water from getting in. I have attached some pictures illustrating what I am doing. I'll let you know what happens after a weekend of play.track fix1.JPGtrack fix2.JPGtrack fix3.JPGtrack fix4.JPGtrack fix5.JPGtrack fix6.JPGtrack fix7.JPG
 

m1west

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That really sucks that that happened. Camso basically said yep thats normal? I bet if it said that on the sales brochure they wouldn't sell many. Too bad there isn't a way to vulcanize the repair. Industrial conveyor belts are joined that way. Even though its been 10 years, its only 200km? That is a design flaw. I know to not get another set of those. Good luck, I hope they hold up a little longer.
 

Denis

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That really sucks that that happened. Camso basically said yep thats normal? I bet if it said that on the sales brochure they wouldn't sell many. Too bad there isn't a way to vulcanize the repair. Industrial conveyor belts are joined that way. Even though its been 10 years, its only 200km? That is a design flaw. I know to not get another set of those. Good luck, I hope they hold up a little longer.
I researched Vulcanizing procedures and there are a lot of options available. All the manufacturers where really helpful, explaining to me taking me through the steps. The problem with my situation is that I have a lot of cracks, maybe 50-60 small points as per pictures. Using a vulcanizing compound which all are 2 part mixes which allow for 1/2 hour to 1 hour of work time depending on heat and moisture conditions. At over $150 for the smallest batch (shipping included) I see myself running out of time every time and probably spending a lot more money. Might as well buy new tracks. This seems to be a $50 solution that lets me enjoy these tracks for a few more seasons. I let you know how it works out.
 

m1west

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I researched Vulcanizing procedures and there are a lot of options available. All the manufacturers where really helpful, explaining to me taking me through the steps. The problem with my situation is that I have a lot of cracks, maybe 50-60 small points as per pictures. Using a vulcanizing compound which all are 2 part mixes which allow for 1/2 hour to 1 hour of work time depending on heat and moisture conditions. At over $150 for the smallest batch (shipping included) I see myself running out of time every time and probably spending a lot more money. Might as well buy new tracks. This seems to be a $50 solution that lets me enjoy these tracks for a few more seasons. I let you know how it works out.
Yes please post how it works out. When I go out with the van on Mattracks, I will keep an eye on that. It likely can happen to any of them. Im wondering if there is a way to mount a scraper from the track frame that has a not touching, but tight clearance of about 1/8" to the front and rear wheels to keep the ice from building up
 

Denis

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The ice build up I had experienced was very specific and on the perimeter of the bogies. In my drawing I show the ice build up as it did on the wheel perimeter just like I have drawn it. It was very strange that the ice formed such a nice and even shape. At one point I tried to break the ice off but only manages to break the ice and never completely off the wheel. There always remained some ice adhered to the wheel like crazy glue. At that point I took hot water and melted the ice away. The other pictures show a new wheel next to an old original wheel. The new wheel has a nice soft rubber coating on the perimeter that does not allow ice to build up. The old wheel is hard plastic and you can see the serrations. Ice attaches to these serrations and keeps building and stretches the track till the track breaks. Anyway I hope I have solved this issue.

Tatou tracks ice1.JPGTatou tracks ice2.JPGTatou tracks ice3.JPG
 

m1west

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The ice build up I had experienced was very specific and on the perimeter of the bogies. In my drawing I show the ice build up as it did on the wheel perimeter just like I have drawn it. It was very strange that the ice formed such a nice and even shape. At one point I tried to break the ice off but only manages to break the ice and never completely off the wheel. There always remained some ice adhered to the wheel like crazy glue. At that point I took hot water and melted the ice away. The other pictures show a new wheel next to an old original wheel. The new wheel has a nice soft rubber coating on the perimeter that does not allow ice to build up. The old wheel is hard plastic and you can see the serrations. Ice attaches to these serrations and keeps building and stretches the track till the track breaks. Anyway I hope I have solved this issue.

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so when it does that, do the wheels grow into each other and lockup or do they keep turning? The wheels on the Mattracks have a rubber band around them.
 

Denis

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I hope that is the fix, how much are the new wheels
The ice did grow into each other and a few wheels locked up but only the small ones. I did not see the bigger ones lock up. You should be fine with the rubber coated wheels. I have paid a lot of attention lately to any tracks I see and all have the rubber coated wheels. It is strange that I have not come across any hard plastic wheel tracks. It is possible that this hard coated wheel was produced for a very short time. So far the fix looks good. I will follow up with my experience riding after a few weekends. A complete set of new wheels is $800
 

sledhead Ed

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google snowmobile track repairs for torn lugs and small rips. Alot of them used E-6000 glue and there was a locktite product that worked too. But I can't remember it.
 

m1west

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Driving around locally no problem, I would be a little hesitant to take a back country trip.
 

m1west

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2010 Can am 800 Limited
I think you are likely running them a little harder and faster than I do. I use the van for cabin access in the winter. The road I travel is steep with switchbacks and an un protected cliff off one side that is hundreds of feet down. I travel at snowcat speed 5-10 MPH. and loaded down pretty good with gear, wife and dog.
 
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