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Fox lies.

mak2

mak2

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Thank goodness someone is policing Fox News. At least MM is honest about its motivation.

Fair and Balanced, yea right.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201103290006

CRUISE SHIP CONFESSION: Top Fox News Executive Admits Lying On-Air About Obama
March 29, 2011 8:03 am ET by Eric Hananoki

In newly uncovered audio, a Fox News executive boasts that he lied repeatedly during the closing days of the 2008 presidential campaign when he speculated on-air "about whether Barack Obama really advocated socialism."

Speaking in 2009 onboard a pricey Mediterranean cruise sponsored by a right-wing college, Fox Washington managing editor Bill Sammon described his attempts the previous year to link Obama to "socialism" as "mischievous speculation." Sammon, who is also a Fox News vice president, acknowledged that "privately" he had believed that the socialism allegation was "rather far-fetched."

"Last year, candidate Barack Obama stood on a sidewalk in Toledo, Ohio, and first let it slip to Joe the Plumber that he wanted to quote, 'spread the wealth around,' " said Sammon. "At that time, I have to admit, that I went on TV on Fox News and publicly engaged in what I guess was some rather mischievous speculation about whether Barack Obama really advocated socialism, a premise that privately I found rather far-fetched."
 
Funny thing is that the FOX executive was on target. So once again Media Matters is proven wrong!

Turns out Obama is pushing a form of socialism on the US. Government Motors. Government takeover of the student loan program. Government takeover of mortgage holdings for 90+% of all home loans. And the list goes on and on . . .
 
Melensdad said:
Funny thing is that the FOX executive was on target. So once again Media Matters is proven wrong!

Turns out Obama is pushing a form of socialism on the US. Government Motors. Government takeover of the student loan program. Government takeover of mortgage holdings for 90+% of all home loans. And the list goes on and on . . .
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Yep just typical crap from MM , they are only trying to point out that when He made the statement he didn't really beleive it TOTALLY, that dont make it a lie . Even the video MM posted & edited clearlly points out it is a fact at least to me , but then I dont drink the koolaid or suck on the guberments teat . Every time Obama and his cronies open their mouths the prove exactlly what Sammon stated .


Admitting that he thought it might have been far fetched at the time doesn't come off as a lie to me . And I think he trully beleives it according to the research he had done .

"Sammon acknowledged that "privately" he had believed that the socialism allegation was "rather far-fetched." "



[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg4qWPkOpfY"]YouTube - Cruise Ship Confession: Top Fox Exec Admits Lying On-Air About Obama[/ame]
 
Cowboy said:
Yep just typical crap from MM , they are only trying to point out that when He made the statement he didn't really beleive it TOTALLY, that dont make it a lie . . .
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Not only that, but then Mak takes the statement of ONE INDIVIDUAL and superimposes it upon an entire organization to try to damage the entire organization.

The title of the thread would have been far more accurate if it would have been: Biased MEDIA MATTERS shows that 1 individual at Fox may not believe everything he once said!
 
Melensdad said:
Not only that, but then Mak takes the statement of ONE INDIVIDUAL and superimposes it upon an entire organization to try to damage the entire organization.

The title of the thread would have been far more accurate if it would have been: Biased MEDIA MATTERS shows that 1 individual at Fox may not believe everything he once said!
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True but Ya gotta admit CRUISESHIP CONFESSION is a perty catchy title . :yum:
 
Melensdad said:
Not only that, but then Mak takes the statement of ONE INDIVIDUAL and superimposes it upon an entire organization to try to damage the entire organization.

The title of the thread would have been far more accurate if it would have been: Biased MEDIA MATTERS shows that 1 individual at Fox may not believe everything he once said!
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Yeah, but then mak2 couldn't look like he had unearthed news devastating enough to sink the Fox News ship with his torpedo. Truth is, it was just another BB gun shot at an aircraft carrier by a lib trying to prove the truth wrong.
 
If I believed something was "far-fetched" or even unlikely, and told people that something was true, I would be lying, even if it was just one person, let alone millions. Right? MM does not claim to be fair and balanced and have millions of people taking their word for that to think. Just pointing out the obvious, Faux is not Fair or balanced, or even honest.
 
MM is the only left wing outfit I subscribe to. This is because they employ top notch writers. They are currently in a full bore hiring mode underwritten by George Soros.

Recently I think Rachel Maddow has climbed above MM's abilities.
 
mak2 said:
If I believed something was "far-fetched" or even unlikely, and told people that something was true, I would be lying, even if it was just one person, let alone millions. Right? MM does not claim to be fair and balanced and have millions of people taking their word for that to think. Just pointing out the obvious, Faux is not Fair or balanced, or even honest.
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I guess what I dont get is why does it even matter Mak ? Its the friggen media based story about some fox executive , it goes on all of the time from the government from both sides & MM refuses to cover that UNLESS it fits their agenda . WTF who the hell cares what this guy said, I sure as hell dont anymore then if mel gibson said it & that would make the friggen headlines too . :wink:
 
From now on just keep it in mind, that is all. Faux does get some things right,but it is good to be skeptical.
 
mak2 said:
From now on just keep it in mind, that is all. Faux does get some things right,but it is good to be skeptical.
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Yep no doubt Mak , just like all the rest of the media . I just think its knitpicking & such a non issue that MM even is reporting on it with everything else thats going on . But everyone of them are guilty of it for sure . :wink:
 
mak2 said:
. . . Faux is not Fair or balanced, or even honest.
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But a Harvard professor who studied the topic of media bias actually proved you are wrong when he compared Fox to other media outlets.

http://www.journalism.org/node/8187
. . .[regarding CNN]: The CNN programming studied tended to cast a negative light on Republican candidates—by a margin of three-to-one. Four-in-ten stories (41%) were clearly negative while just 14% were positive and 46% were neutral. The network provided negative coverage of all three main candidates with McCain fairing the worst (63% negative) and Romney fairing a little better than the others only because a majority of his coverage was neutral.
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. . . [regarding NETWORK NEWS]: The tone of coverage in the 30-minute evening newscasts was much more positive toward the Democrats than Republicans. And again, among the major candidates, Obama got the best of it and McCain the worst. Of the 11 stories primarily about McCain that ran on the nightly news in the first five months of the year, not a single one carried a clearly positive tone. Six of them were clearly negative and five were neutral.

. . .

[regarding FOX] The programming studied on Fox News offered a somewhat more positive picture of Republicans and more negative one of Democrats compared with other media outlets. Fox News stories about a Republican candidate were most likely to be neutral (47%), with the remainder more positive than negative (32% vs. 21% negative).
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But any sense here that the news channel was uniformly positive about Republicans or negative about Democrats is not manifest in the data.
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Oh, and then there is the study from Pew. :hammer:

Public Affairs (CMPA) and the Pew-funded Project for Excellence in Journalism (PEJ) found the most balanced campaign coverage was on the Fox News Channel, although PEJ claimed FNC’s balance was actually a right-leaning bias, since it deviated from the “norm” of other big media: http://www.journalism.org/node/13436
In cable, the evidence firmly suggests there now really is an ideological divide between two of the three channels, at least in their coverage of the campaign.

Things look much better for Barack Obama -- and much worse for John McCain -- on MSNBC than in most other news outlets. On the Fox News Channel, the coverage of the presidential candidates is something of a mirror image of that seen on MSNBC.​
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But wait, there is more scholarly evidence :clap:

The liberal Project for Excellence in Journalism reported their breakdown of cable news coverage of the election, and it showed MSNBC was overwhelmingly tilted against John McCain and in favor of Barack Obama. Nearly three-fourths (73%) of MSNBC’s McCain coverage was negative, compared to just 10% positive. For Obama, the good press outweighed the bad by a greater than 3-1 margin, 43% to 14%.

On CNN, McCain faced nearly five-to-one more bad news than good (13% positive vs. 61% negative), while Obama received much more balanced treatment — 36% positive stories vs. 39% negative stories.

In contrast, the Fox News Channel treated both candidates to roughly the same level of good and bad press, with Obama earning just slightly better press than McCain. One-fourth of Obama stories on Fox (25%) were positive, compared to 22% of McCain’s coverage. Both candidates received exactly the same proportion of negative stories on FNC, 40%.
 
I have to admit that the Fox executive got it at least partially wrong, Obama isn't really a socialist, given his record, he is actually a National Socialist.
 
Melensdad said:
But wait, there is more scholarly evidence :clap:

The liberal Project for Excellence in Journalism reported their breakdown of cable news coverage of the election, and it showed MSNBC was overwhelmingly tilted against John McCain and in favor of Barack Obama. Nearly three-fourths (73%) of MSNBC’s McCain coverage was negative, compared to just 10% positive. For Obama, the good press outweighed the bad by a greater than 3-1 margin, 43% to 14%.

On CNN, McCain faced nearly five-to-one more bad news than good (13% positive vs. 61% negative), while Obama received much more balanced treatment — 36% positive stories vs. 39% negative stories.

In contrast, the Fox News Channel treated both candidates to roughly the same level of good and bad press, with Obama earning just slightly better press than McCain. One-fourth of Obama stories on Fox (25%) were positive, compared to 22% of McCain’s coverage. Both candidates received exactly the same proportion of negative stories on FNC, 40%.
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How dare you attack mak2 with legitimately backed up facts and figures, and using reputable sources to boot? Don't you think he's been picked on enough already without adding more truth to the equation?:whistling::whistling: Shame on you for crumbling his fantasy world.:hammer:
 
JEV said:
How dare you attack mak2 with legitimately backed up facts and figures, and using reputable sources to boot? Don't you think he's been picked on enough already without adding more truth to the equation?:whistling::whistling: Shame on you for crumbling his fantasy world.:hammer:
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It's just his way of putting the Evinrude in the septic tank ............. :wink:
 
Cowboy said:
But everyone of them are guilty of it for sure . :wink:
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Ain't that the truth! They all have their own agenda, and they all try to make speculation fact, and editorialise things out of proportion, or even slant a story until it is simply unrecognisable to what is actually true...

In many ways, the media rule the world, imho.
 
rotfl....

so one mans "on air opinion" is now corporate policy:yum:

well, like I said before- I guess that makes all leftwing progressives pedophiles
 
mak2 said:
Did I say all?
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You did not use the specific term "all" but you clearly indicated that you associate the on air statement of one individual with the entire corporation. That is, in effect, condemning 'all' of the corporation despite the evidence that it is the most balanced of all the news sources studied.
 
try and keep up......

he made an "on air" statement

got a memo? did he say it was corporate policy?

if you can't follow along I'll help you;

the answer is no.
 
mak2 said:
It wasnt one man, is was a corporate exec. Try to follow along.
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That dont even make any kind of sense Mak . The "try to follow along" comment is about as an arrogent statement as you some times say everyone here allways picks on you because WE ALL disagree with your opinion & it is not true period , I have many times said I agree with some of your thoughts & opinions once you narrow it down to what they acctually are . Not everyone is against you but some people at least try to keep an open mind .

Just the way I see it & you told me a hundred times you dont care what I think so alls good . Dont mean I'm gonna shut the fuck up though . :wink:
 
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