Tesla commits fraud again

[Drifli]

Tesla video promoting self-driving was staged, engineer testifies

A 2016 video that Tesla used to promote its self-driving technology was staged to show capabilities like stopping at a red light and accelerating at a green light that the system did not have, according to testimony by a senior engineer.

www.reuters.com

 

[FrancSevin]

I don't believe Tesla was selling cars with autonomous capacity in 2016. The video was to demonstrate the future possibilities of the feature. This is lawyer speak on behalf of a client.

I recall a Winnebago suit where-in the woman driver set cruise control and went back to the galley to make a sandwich. The outcome was predictable to most everyone but her. Hence the current disclaimer about depending on the cruise control to drive the camper and damn near any new car operating manual. It also warns not to drink the water from the battery.

That said, the thread title suggest Tesla has committed fraud before. Can you relate what that was?

 

[Drifli]

I don't believe Tesla was selling cars with autonomous capacity in 2016. The video was to demonstrate the future possibilities of the feature. This is lawyer speak on behalf of a client.

I recall a Winnebago suit where-in the woman driver set cruise control and went back to the galley to make a sandwich. The outcome was predictable to most everyone but her. Hence the current disclaimer about depending on the cruise control to drive the camper and damn near any new car operating manual. It also warns not to drink the water from the battery.

That said, the thread title suggest Tesla has committed fraud before. Can you relate what that was?

Video Tesla under investigation for alleged fraud

A tweet about taking Tesla private from CEO Elon Musk has triggered a Justice Department investigation into the carmaker.

abcnews.go.com

Tesla under US criminal investigation over self-driving claims, sources say

Reuters learns US DoJ launched investigation last year after more than a dozen crashes, some fatal, involving Autopilot system

www.theguardian.com

US fraud trial begins over Elon Musk's 2018 Tesla tweets

Jury selection began on Tuesday in a California courtroom over whether Elon Musk committed fraud with a pair of 2018 tweets saying he was poised to take Tesla private.Alex Spiro, Musk's lawyer, asked those up for jury selection to remain "open-minded" even if they will first hear the version of...

news.yahoo.com

Tesla is reportedly under DoJ criminal probe over self-driving claims

Tesla is reportedly under criminal investigation by the Department of Justice in the United States over self-driving claims.

electrek.co

 

[Cyber Geek]

I don't believe Tesla was selling cars with autonomous capacity in 2016. The video was to demonstrate the future possibilities of the feature. This is lawyer speak on behalf of a client.

I recall a Winnebago suit where-in the woman driver set cruise control and went back to the galley to make a sandwich. The outcome was predictable to most everyone but her. Hence the current disclaimer about depending on the cruise control to drive the camper and damn near any new car operating manual. It also warns not to drink the water from the battery.

That said, the thread title suggest Tesla has committed fraud before. Can you relate what that was?

So do you think it was just a misunderstanding on the consumer’s side or intentional fraud?

 

[FrancSevin]

So do you think it was just a misunderstanding on the consumer’s side or intentional fraud?

I think I would call it "fraud" when the court determines guilt. Until them, it is an "accusation."

To some of us,,,; The difference is important.

 

[Cyber Geek]

I think I would call it "fraud" when the court determines guilt. Until them, it is an "accusation."

To some of us,,,; The difference is important.

I mean do you think it’s Tesla’s fault for misleading the consumer, or the consumer’s fault for misunderstanding ?