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Tax on "Imputed" Income???

Cityboy

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WHAT THE DEMOCRATS HAVE IN STORE FOR YOU. TODAY'S INSTALLMENT

Again .. do I think that the Republicans have earned our continued permission to control both the House and the Senate in Washington? Not only no, but hell no. The best that can be said of the Republicans now is that they're not Democrats, though they seem to be trying to erase any differences as fast as they can. Republicans in control for two more years --- spending and increasing the size of government --- is an acceptable outcome next week only because the alternative is so much worse.

This week I'm detailing some of the plans that the Democrats have for you and your bank accounts if and when they get the control that they think is their birthright.

Today I want to share with you another delicious little morsel the Democrats have waiting for you if they ever gain the political power they so ardently desire. It's called "imputed income." If you are a home owner, pay attention. This concerns your wallet and your bank account.

Let me start this off with a few points that I don't think you will dispute. Democrats are the party of big government. Democrats are the party of the social welfare state. Democrats want to make more and more Americans dependent on government because they know that the higher the degree of dependency the weaker the people and the stronger the government. It goes without saying that the stronger and more powerful government becomes, the stronger and more powerful the politicians who control that government become. This isn't rocket surgery here.

Money in the hands of the people who earned it contributes to their personal independence. Independent people don't need politicians. Money taken from those who earn it and then used to build the government social welfare state robs people of their independence. Democrats love this scenario. They want you to be dependent on government. To do that they need to take your money and use it to grow the federal welfare state. This is why Democrats just love the idea of tax increases.

To be sure, Democrats know that all of their rhetoric about raising taxes on the rich and the rich "paying their fair share" resonates well with their voter base. Playing to wealth envy will always earn votes ... but nothing earns votes quite like dependence on government. Creating that dependence, though, is an expensive proposition. To cover the tab the Democrats have to drain every penny from your pocket that they can -- right up to the point that you decide it's time to revolt.

Democrats will tell you that they only want to raise taxes on the so-called "rich." Nancy Pelosi will probably come up with some figure in the $200,000 or $250,000 range to describe "rich" when she and her Democrat pals start to work on their tax increase plans. But here's a warning. If you happen to fall below that "rich" category, you're in their crosshairs as well. They have various schemes in the works to put you smack in the middle of the "rich" category, and thus set you up for some pretty substantial tax increases.

One such scheme targets homeowners. It's called "imputed income," and its a brilliant and devious idea on how to tax your home ownership.

Here's how it works.

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Let's say that you've owned your home for about 20 years. For 20 years your home has been appreciating in value ... big time. Your monthly payments on that home are about $550 a month. Remember, it's a 20-year-old loan made when the cost of your home was much, much less. There isn't much of a home mortgage tax deduction left at this point since you almost have the home paid off, and the bulk of your payments go to principal instead of interest.
The very fact that you're living in such a nice home, and paying so little, attracts the interest of Democrats. They know that there are a lot of people in your neighborhood that paid a lot more for their homes than you did, and their mortgage payments are a lot higher. Not only that, but there are other people renting homes in your neighborhood and they're paying much more than you are every month. It's obvious that you're enjoying some great economic benefit due to the fact that you've owned your home for so long and your payments are so low. Well, where there's an economic benefit, there must be a tax!

Enter the concept of imputed income!

Under this wonderful plan, first floated by Clinton Democrats before the voter revolution of 1994, the government would figure out how much your home would rent for every month. To do this they would use all of that census data they've gathered, plus any information that they can develop on current sale and rental prices up and down your street.

Let's say that the government --- the IRS, if you will --- determines that your home would rent for $3,250 a month. That would add up to $39,000 a year. But the IRS discovers that you're only paying $550 a month, or $6,600 a year in rent. Well, there's that economic benefit you're enjoying by virtue of your long-term home ownership. The economic benefit of your home ownership is the difference between the $39,000 you should be paying to live there, and the $6,600 you're actually paying. Do the math. You're getting away with $32,400 every year in non-taxed economic benefits!

The Democrat plan is simple. Just take that $32,400 and add it to your taxable income on your next tax return. Then you get the privilege of paying income taxes to the federal government on the economic benefit you derive from your long-term home ownership. The IRS has "evened the playing field" in your neighborhood ... so to speak. Your neighbors had to pay taxes on the full $39,000 they're paying to live down the street ... now you're having to do the same. After all ... it's only fair, right!
Just remember this. Democrats actually believe that the best use for every single penny you earn is for it to be spent by government for what they love to call the "common good." They will grudgingly allow you to keep enough of your earnings to avoid your participation in a full-scale tax revolt. A good Democrat knows that only Democrats and the government know what is good for you, and that you will be so much better off and your life oh so much better if you will just succumb to the power of government and it's ability to care for you much better than you can care for yourself.

In tomorrow's Nuze ... what would you think about a proposal to limit where you can invest your retirement funds ... a limit based on political correctness.

http://boortz.com/nuze/index.html
 
Cityboy said:
A good Democrat knows that only Democrats and the government know what is good for you, and that you will be so much better off and your life oh so much better if you will just succumb to the power of government and it's ability to care for you much better than you can care for yourself.


During the Clinton years when the government was talking about the surplus and what to do with it, did Clinton not make the remark "Don't give it back to the people because they won't know how to spend it". I am only asking this as I am not sure if he said it. Maybe someone can help me.

murph
 
I think it's something that the Democrats would "float" to see what public reaction would be but there would surely be an astounding public outcry against such a scheme from both parties. I wouldn't put it past Pelosi and company to try to sneek it through by attempting to bury it in a very large and complicated bill.:eek:
 
I am beginning to come to the conclusion that the best thing for this country might be to let the Democrats gain power and let them put all of their hairbrained schemes into place. Maybe this might be enough to finally piss off the American public enough that they finally say enough is enough and take Thomas Jefferson's advice that " a little revolution every now and then is a good thing". Something like this might be better than the death of a thousand pin pricks that we are suffering now. The constant battle to keep the left in check is grinding down the true nature of this country. Another revolution might be a good thing - if we won then maybe all the leftists would leave just like the Tories did after the first revolution. We can send them all back to England where they can become good dhimmis after the Muslims take over.
 
My opinion on this post is that it is nothing but a scare tactic of the Republican party, and its supporters to get the voting public to vote Republican. If you want to get a handle on how the government works concerning such things such as this, then please read this article. Yes, the government does consider "imputed income" when they publish statistics, but this it the first time that I have ever heard of them wanting to tax it, and frankly, it is also the first time that I have heard that it is a Democratic party idea. If anything, I would be inclined to believing that the Republicans would be the ones to want this, because they are in need of cash to keep there ongoing spending alive. When it comes to spending what you don't have, the Republicans have the Democratic party beat hands down...
 
Junk-

Clinton floated this idea along with a "one-time" (yeah, right) tax on 401K accounts. Neither went over real well, but it came from the left.
 
jdwilson44 said:
I am beginning to come to the conclusion that the best thing for this country might be to let the Democrats gain power and let them put all of their hairbrained schemes into place.


I don't know if I would all of there hairbrained schemes would be hair brained??:confused2: However, I think they are going to get their chance. I think the next two years we will have a lame duck president and excuses will fly around as to who is at fault and then in 2008 the dems will control everything. And then the dems will point fingers at the previous administration for everything. Works both ways, I am not saying the dems are only guilty of this the reps are also.

murph
 
thcri said:
I And then the dems will point fingers at the previous administration for everything. Works both ways, I am not saying the dems are only guilty of this the reps are also.

murph

I agree with you on this one. This is one of the reasons why I have been opposed to the whole Iraq war thing from the start - I always thought it would go badly - and I always had the feeling that the Democrats would use then use this as a way to get back into power. If you take away the Iraq war a lot of what the Bush administration has accomplished has been good for conservatives. Lessening of anti 2nd amendment laws, telling the UN to take a hike, etc. I fear that any progress that conservatives have made will be lost in the backlash if Democrats get back into power again.
 
What escapes me in this is this; where is the logic of this tax against a homeowner who worked his ass off and paid off his mortgage in full to avoid paying any additional interest to the bank. The government still gets plenty of cash from the property in the form of property taxes. Why force the person to carry a mortgage or rent? For a few years the above mentioned homeowner may have actually paid 10k a month or more to get said mortgage paid off. Would there be a credit for having paid way over the monthly rent value?
 
There are folks that have a hard time just paying the taxes on the home that they have lived in for 40 years. What are those people going to do? Sell the home and live in an apartment, where the rent will eat up any profits that they have left from the house sale? Then where will they go next???? It ain't going to happen folks...... it just ain't going to happen....
 
The Democrats thrive on thinking of newer, more imaginitive ways of taxing us. You are right Junk...it aint gonna happen...unless the Democrats make it happen. The only way that can happen is if enough people keep voting for Democrats hoping to get a slice of someone elses wealth. The Democrats are salivating over all that equity just sitting out there that they could tax and buy votes with their socialist programs. Democrats are all about wealth redistribution, and what better place to confiscate and redistribute wealth than to take it from those who worked hard, earned their own money and paid their homes off? Hey, it just ain't fair that some peoples homes are paid for. Those Democrats are just trying to make things fair for the underachievers of the world. They call it "compassion". you wouldn't mind giving up a little equity for your fellowman, would you?
 
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