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Another Great Road Trip For/To?????

mtntopper

Back On Track
Pigtails and I were off last week on another adventure to where (guess), for what (guess). The first to guess correct info and add details with the photo story as it goes along will get rep points for correct info as we add pics to tell the story. Pics should usually contain some clues to the correct answers.

For those few that know the destination and the reason you are excluded from the fun and you know who you are!!!!

We are going to tell the story in pics and everyone who first guesses the correct answers will get rep points.

Ford F350 and and the big trailer?????

Guess where this pic was taken the direction headed away from WY?
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Jim,
:thumb: AT least someone thought a Kristi was actually worth saving ! More than I can say for a Snot Trac !!!!:poke:
 
Your'e heading somewhere to pick up somthing and bring it back this way from where you went to go get it. When you get it back, you 'll unload it and head off that way and not this way to try it out..........


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Iowa
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Indiana
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Which Way Do We Go?
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Thought Of Bob S When I Seen The Sign - Hi Bob We Waved From The Highway
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Entering Michigan
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Okay do you have inside info? Rep points given. Now where and what in MI?

No, no inside information. I've been thinking this for a few days now... and was going to ask you... but now that this thread is here... I expect you have purchased the Black Diamond Custom Cats rig.

It just seems like it was going to happen... I have a bit of a sixth sense about things playing out.

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Crap, Topper you were supposed to go the other way and buy that 601 in California before Mainer got it. looks like you zigged when you should have zagged....... you most likely went and wasted good time and money on a old Krispy Krusty or some thing like that. directions directions directions... suppose you got lost and went the wrong way...... I'm going to have to talk with your supervisor..... Is she around.:yum: :yum:


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Iowa
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Indiana
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Which Way Do We Go?
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Thought Of Bob S When I Seen The Sign - Hi Bob We Waved From The Highway
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Entering Michigan
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apparently it was close to Michigan all Ace hardware stores are reporting in that general area that they are out of Duct Tape and bungees :yum: :yum:
 
Crap, Topper you were supposed to go the other way and buy that 601 in California before Mainer got it.

Nah... BobP said he wants it so I'm hands off ... I'm trying extreme intervention to get him off the Kristi and into a proper Thiokol. :poke: :yum:

Yes, I'm willing to give up personal gain of a 601 to help straighten out a Kristi owner. :yum:
 
Okay Mainer, good sixth thru tenth sense. YOUR A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumb: :beer:

I talked with Marc (Black Diamond Cats) on the phone several times in the past several weeks and he convinced me I could not live without another 1989 LMC 1200 or so I told Pigtails. :yum: My snow cat inventory is real low now as the BR, VMC and Snowmaster are gone. Marc is a great guy who likes to restore snow cats and does exceptional work. The cat is everything he represented it to be and more. He is basically a perfectionist in his work and enjoys doing it right as I could tell after several telephone conversations. :thumb:

Marc stayed late on Friday evening so we could pick up the snow cat and be able to make record time on our 3100 mile round trip with trailer in tow. We managed to do the complete trip in 80 hours total. We left on Thursday at 6AM and we were back home Sunday at 2PM. Pigtails is still trying to catch up on her sleep schedule.

Thanks Marc for an excellent restoration and bling job on the LMC 1200 and working with me. Now I may have to sell my other 1200 LMC. I did try to shake it apart on the way back. Everything went according to plan on the trip with no problems.

I should have pics of it in the snow soon.

Loaded and In The Dark
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The Prize
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Detroit
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Saturday Night Road Ghosts
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In Home Parking Area At 2PM Sunday With Road Grime Already Washed Off
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Congratulations on the new cat :thumb:

Is that rope tied around the doors ???

( I wouldn't take any chances either :bonk: ) :yum:
 
Congratulations on the new cat :thumb:

Is that rope tied around the doors ???

( I wouldn't take any chances either :bonk: ) :yum:

No duct tape was required this time but the front suicide doors are locked, secured inside and outside with bungee cords. I did not want to let my reputation with Boggie slide to low. When I hit the road I don't want to look in the mirror and see the doors flapping in the breeze as has happened to me in the past in heavy city traffic. :yum:

"Wow, look at that redneck snow catter from Wyoming." :yum: :thumb:
 
That must be a record round trip! How did you get the road grime off, the cat sure looks good! Don't make us wait too long for pictures in the snow!:applause:
 
So if I understand this, Mtntopper, you went out and paid money for a "cosmetically restored", "fancy cat", with a "covergirl facelift" and too much "foofoo sh!t" but no "charactor" ? So what color is the new BMW "beemer" gonna be, anyway? http://www.forumsforums.com/3_9/showthread.php?t=13853

The 480 total hours on the cat prior to Marc's restoration work made me talk serious to him and find out just what he accomplished with the restoration. It is much more than a cosmetic restoration which does happen on many cats that are for sale. Marc is serious about his work and takes great pride in the finished product. The Beemer could not pull the trailer....:yum: I could take it for a ride though if the price was right....:thumb: Are you selling yours?
 
The cat was fixed in the field, I am now just out of spares. I am looking for belting (splice) and a spare tire. I still have about 100 miles of trails to do.
 
Nah... BobP said he wants it so I'm hands off ... I'm trying extreme intervention to get him off the Kristi and into a proper Thiokol. :poke: :yum:

Yes, I'm willing to give up personal gain of a 601 to help straighten out a Kristi owner. :yum:

Dang it. I feel outed. :mad: :pat:
 
Cool! When that cat came into discussion I was thinking about how your inventory has decreased as of late and that you had to be going through some withdrawal...and the pocket was probably getting a little jingley with some coins that had to drop soon...plus a quick read of your bio on boggie's thread... and your preference to more modern cats as opposed to my scruffy-cat fetish. Couple that with Marc's apparent lack of additional marketing push led me to believe that enough hub-bub on here was created to peak the interest of one or two... with you as the most likely candidate. :thumb: Inside information would have been much more fun though! :yum:

Congratulations! Glad you're a new happy owner. :applause:

Okay Mainer, good sixth thru tenth sense. YOUR A WINNER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumb: :beer:
 
The 480 total hours on the cat prior to Marc's restoration work made me talk serious to him and find out just what he accomplished with the restoration. It is much more than a cosmetic restoration which does happen on many cats that are for sale. Marc is serious about his work and takes great pride in the finished product. The Beemer could not pull the trailer....:yum: I could take it for a ride though if the price was right....:thumb: Are you selling yours?

Realistically, the risk taken by the buyer is limited given the low hours of the machine. It would be helpful to know what went into mechanical restoration vs. cosmetic work. I don't even know if that term is fair but an activity list would help qualify the term: Restoration. A cat with 480 hours would probably need more of a refresh rather than a mechanical restoration (which also varies from Platinum Weatherby standard to other frame-up restorations).

I ask the question of why not do a Snow-Ops or Weatherby thread to show the work done, steps taken, etc? Not only is it selfishly interesting but it's a marketing-builder of confidence and builds brand for the seller.

If we were to be analytical about it...
How many hours went toward mechanical work and what was replaced/rebuilt? Then I ask, of those mechanical hours, how many hours were snowcat specific (ie, requiring expert knowledge of snowcats---hydro-drive/diff/powerdivider drive systems let's say-- rather than generic mechanical systems--ie, clutches, radiators, engines),

vs. How many hours toward fit/finish (this includes all prep work to remove mechanical infrastructure for paint, doing carpeting, diamond plate work, etc.)... alot of shops can do this type of work and the standard varies wildly in quality but if you pick up a car stereo mag you see how pimp-daddy a ride can be...apply that to car, truck, or snowcat and it's not a snowcat specific area of expertise.

A person can look at Snow Ops threads and see significant hours of work that goes from the infrastructure (like re-welding and extending the bed of the 1202 or the exhaust replace or the engine/trany work, etc...) to the stuff at the end for fit/finish. Still, welding/bed-extension is not snowcat specific but then Snow Ops is an expert in snowcats from years and years of experience (please, no more head-swelling than already there!):yum: so he applies mechanical expertise with extensive snowcat experience...same with Boggie.

So, there are many ways to slice/dice hours and skills but for this discussion:

Type A: Hard-to-find, highly experienced snowcat experts: Snowcat scar tissue
Type B: High-talent mechanical systems experts from engine to electrical
Type C: Fit/Finish/Accessories/Physical Add-ons, etc.

For a modern low hours cat, then type A may not be essential but could pull in an expert if not available in house. Type B for a low hours cat would be more appropriate and useful. Type C for a facelift/beauty package would probably be most time consuming from gutting, to blasting, to painting, diamond plating, stereo, etc... So that is where the quandry comes into play.

At the same time, this cat is more modern than the 1202 and has fewer hours, may have been used differently, etc... Who knows, maybe it has 480 hours of pure heavy, heavy lifting and alot of mechanical work was required???? It looks like it's in fantastic shape! So, it will help that you will be a very satisfied customer but I still don't see the need to keep the work out of the public eye unless there is a perception that the work is filled with lots of trade secrets and shouldn't be publicized? Everyone is learning on the site but I don't think anyone thinks it's rocket science. Type A skills are themost valued and appreciated on this site. In other forums Type C would be absolutely numero uno! When we're talking frostbite, I want type A and type B. If a BMW-buyer eventually sells it to someone that may use it heavily for outback excursions then that frostbite Type A/B work will be more valuable. BMW wants more type C because he's only tooling around a few miles for some cabin access, etc... Fogtender would without doubt drop his restoration cash into Type A and B (please yell at me if I'm wrong FogT) because he's doing 80 mile deep Alaska 'someone will let me freeze solid out there' type runs. As I recall he's still waiting on the 'go-fast' paintjob for good reason.

So for this low-hour cat, how many hours of work were spent doing Type A, B, and C type activities respectively?

OK, I've beat that horse a bit... but it's all in the odd-ball fun of good snowcat debate! Right? :2gunsfiri :beer:

With all that being said...this is mainly a theoretical discussion that comes from only seeing end-product pics and not seeing any of it like we're used to from Weatherby and Snowcat Ops---you guys have spoiled us! I think it's a gorgeous cat and Marc's team has a hard customer to please and you sound it so hat's off to him and his team at BD Custom Cats. :applause: So how much to hunting-lodge-pimp one of my 601's Marc---I'd like to fill it with burl wood trim, mahogany flooring, and leather trim???? :pat: The irony of all this is that I think Marc could have more customers on his hands than he knows what to do with because end product looks fantastic but people just want to see the intermediate steps! I have a 601 in MI aching for a restore! I'm serious! Give me a reasonable price and use that one for a forums complete restore.:idea:
 
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