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Who Owns Seeds? Monsanto Says Not You

Bamby

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Say you're a Hollywood studio who spent a couple hundred million dollars on a blockbuster movie. Someone buys it on DVD, and then proceeds to copy the DVD and sell those copies at a profit.

That would be against the law.

Can you make the same argument about buying patented seeds to grow a crop, and then keeping some of that first crop to reap seeds and grow a second crop? A third?

The United States Supreme Court will decide that in a case involving a 75-year-old farmer from Indiana named Vernon Bowman. Monsanto sued Bowman in 2007, claiming the farmer has for years used seeds reaped from a first crop of Monsanto Roundup Ready soybean seeds to grow another crop.

Monsanto said that violates its patent, as farmers sign an agreement when they buy the seeds to only use them once. The resulting crop can be sold for things like feed or oil, not to create another generation of seeds.

From Monsanto's perspective, what Bowman has done is like the farming version of Napster. From the farmer's perspective, to force him to buy new seeds every year is a monopoly, and Monsanto's patent should "expire" after the first crop.

Monsanto won in lower court, but Bowman has appealed, and in a move that caught corporate America off guard, the Supreme Court has agreed to hear the case next Tuesday.

At stake is Monsanto's multi-billion dollar seed industry. The company dominates the soybean seed market with its Roundup Ready seeds, which have been genetically modified so that farmers can spray weed killer on the plants without impacting the soybeans. The seeds are the result of years of development and have helped farmers boost yields, which in turn keeps food prices down.

How long should a company be compensated for something that is difficult to create, but is easy to copy? Monsanto isn't the only party concerned about a potential loss at the Supreme Court.

Filing briefs with the court on behalf of Monsanto is a broad array of industries, from the Business Software Association, representing companies like Intel and Microsoft, to biotech firms, to other soybean farmers who fear the prices of Monsanto seeds could skyrocket, or the company could pull back investing in innovation.

A loss by Monsanto "would effectively eliminate the incentive to discover and develop new genetically-engineered plants," wrote the American Intellectual Property Law Association in a brief.

"We're also talking about DNA sequences used in vaccine development, biofuel reagents such as algae, and also software," said Cathleen Enright of the Biotechnology Industries Organization. She said investors may be less likely to fund research which could reap lower profits. "It can introduce uncertainty into their business models."

Bowman has his own supporters filing briefs on his behalf, including the Center for Food Safety, which wrote about "Monsanto Company's use of U.S. patent law to control the use of staple crop seeds by farmers." A Facebook page has been set up and a rally planned for Bowman next Tuesday in Washington, D.C.

Monsanto has already been fighting patent expiration issues in Brazil, now the world's largest soybean producer. The U.S. Supreme Court could decide to let the lower court's ruling stand, overturn it, or send it back for a new trial.

Perhaps there could be some middle ground, where the patent expires after a second crop, but Enright of the biotechnology group noted that would put grain elevators in the difficult position of having to enforce new policies.

In the meantime, both sides have lawyered up preparing for Tuesday's arguments, a day that Cathleen Enright said her group never expected to happen. "We were surprised."
 

jimbo

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I think the farmer will lose the case. The result or research lies with the researcher till the patents run out. No different than drugs, music or video.
 

300 H and H

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I am too.

Several years ago there was a case before SCOTUS, and it was aboubt the validity of patenting a living organizm. They won that one, to many's dismay. Rarely do they loose....

But the frame work of SCOTUS has changed and perhaps Monsanto isn't as well protected under the current administration. Given Monsanto's track record in court, I wouldn't want to bet against them this time either.

Regards, Kirk
 

squerly

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I don't think the farmer will win either, only because Monsanto owns the world and with that comes the power to win this sort of case.

But that being said, I believe Mr. Farmer owns what he grows and the food (and seeds) that come from his plants are his to do what he wants with. If Monsanto can claim they own any future seeds then so can every other provider of seeds, be it flowers or food.
 

Mark.Sibole

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I don't think the farmer will win either, only because Monsanto owns the world and with that comes the power to win this sort of case.

But that being said, I believe Mr. Farmer owns what he grows and the food (and seeds) that come from his plants are his to do what he wants with. If Monsanto can claim they own any future seeds then so can every other provider of seeds, be it flowers or food.


Mr Farmer should own all seeds after the initial purchase.The initial purchase more than likely was coated with special things to help it grow but any seend from that crop would not yeild the coatings hence being different seeds IMO.Im sure the small farmer will loose to a billion dollar corp becaus eit will set a presidence if said farmer wins.It boils down to politics and how much the GOVT can make on any product IMO.As far as Im concerned any seeds or food yeilded from the crop are his to do with as he pleases and the Company and GOVT can kiss his country ass.
 

FrancSevin

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Soory guys, i have to disagree. patent law is set up to provide some levelof protectionfromcopycats of ones workinthe discovery or something new. Whether it is a new widget or a new rose,[patent law protects the discovery.

Geneticly engineered seeds are no different than a patented TEA rose. If I spend years hybredizing a certaincolor, frgrnce and shape of a new rose, I should be able to name it and market it safely from competition fromathers long enough to recoup my costs and make a profit. Same goes with genetic engineering.

The only difference is that genetic engineering means the seeds will always s prove to the new breed. Unlike hybreds which do not.

If onewere to create a new improved spark plug that somehow made engines run more efficiently, anyone could copy it. So the smallinventor wouldlose his opportunity to benefit from the "discovery" to any big Corporatinthat couldsuccessfully copy his work.

Understand that a patent is not an invention but a "discovery." Once a person has done such a "discovery," it is easy as hell for others to "find" it. As a patent holder myself, I must stand with Monsanto as I would with a little guy who did the hard work of "finding" something unique enough to convince the Government that it was special.

Next time you open a package of Kraft cheese slices notice that the package is vacumm packed. My patent is out of date so I received nothing for my work from Kraft or the machine company that copied my "discovery." But for 7 years, no one, not even the big guys like Bosch, could duplicate my package and we were top of the heap for it.

The farmerwilllose,not because Monsanto is so big, but because patent law is a great equalizer. Probably one of the fairest we have.It's only weakness is thatonemudst defendtheir patents,the government willnot do it. And that is where the unfairness comes to play.

However, that element is not coming intoplay here. Thefarmeris using blantantcopies of the patented seeds to grow additional crops for which he did not pay. Monsanto is defending their patent rights.
 

Bamby

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Technically Fran is right, but the future of agriculture is scarey. Monsanto is setting itself up as to where seeds will be a cash commodity that can only be distributed by "them" the same as the "Fed" being the sole source of "Money".

Here are another couple of good reads on the subject:

Monsanto Wins Patent Dispute Against Farmer Who Bought Legal Seeds

We've had numerous stories of Monsanto's rather aggressive patent enforcement efforts, and unfortunately it appears the company has chalked up another victory in the courts. Glyn Moody points us to the story of CAFC (the nation's patent appeals court) siding with Monsanto against yet another farmer.

The details of this story are really quite incredible. The farmer, Vernan Bowman, bought official Monsanto seeds and planted his crops. Yet, Monsanto has rules that say you can't re-use "Roundup Ready" seeds, but you can apparently sell "second-generation" seeds to grain elevators for use as "commodity seeds," and doesn't require that there be any restriction on the sale. Bowman later bought a bunch of such "commodity seeds," which included some Roundup Ready seeds, and some that weren't. Bowman was able to determine which of the plants came from Roundup Ready seeds... and then saved those seeds for replanting. Monsanto claimed this was infringement, even though the seeds were legally sold to the grain elevator and then from the elevator to Bowman without restrictions. On top of that, while Bowman had signed an agreement for his original seeds, he did not with this batch (and, indeed, even Monsanto admits he didn't break the user agreement -- just patent infringement for using the seeds).

It's difficult to see how this is possibly infringement. In common patent law terms, the patent issue should be "exhausted." Setting aside the insanity of using patents to tell farmers they can't re-use their own seeds, once Monsanto has given farmers the rights to sell second-generation seeds to the grain elevators for resale with no restrictions, it's hard to see how Monsanto should have any subsequent patent claim on any further use of those seeds or their progeny. In fact, Bowman was so sure that he was doing absolutely nothing wrong, that he freely shared the details of what he did with people from Monsanto. But the court, as it seems to do with alarming frequency, seems to see no trouble with granting a patent holder significantly extended control.

Patent exhaustion is supposed to cover these situations. A few years ago, the Supreme Court, in the Quanta case, made it clear (or so we thought) that a legal sale of a licensed component "exhausts" the patent holder's rights to go after later buyers in the supply chain for infringement. Bowman correctly pointed out that if this isn't a clear cut case of patent exhaustion, then the concept is pretty useless.

Monsanto's bizarre argument is that while it agrees to let farmers sell the seeds as a commodity without restriction, it still doesn't want anyone to plant with them, so anyone who does so did not make an authorized purchase, and thus no exhaustion has occurred. I can't see how that makes any sense at all. First of all, no restrictions were placed on the sale, so later claiming restrictions makes no sense. Furthermore, retroactively declaring a sale by two separate independent parties "unauthorized," after the fact, based on what the buyer does, is flat out crazy.

The court here says that exhaustion is meaningless, because the seeds Bowman planted are new seeds, and thus newly infringing -- yes, despite the legal purchase:

Patent exhaustion does not bar an infringement action. Even if Monsanto’s patent rights in the commodity seeds are exhausted, such a conclusion would be of no consequence because once a grower, like Bowman, plants the commodity seeds containing Monsanto’s Roundup Ready technology and the next generation of seed develops, the grower has created a newly infringing article.

It's hard to read decisions like this and not realize how horribly broken the patent system is, aided by courts like CAFC and a Congress that fails to fix such clear abuses.

Source: TechDirt

Here's another much longer and informational article on the "Evils" of the Monsanto seed empire if anyone's interested on the topic...

Monsanto’s Harvest of Fear
 

squerly

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Next time you open a package of Kraft cheese slices notice that the package is vacumm packed. My patent is out of date so I received nothing for my work from Kraft or the machine company that copied my "discovery." But for 7 years, no one, not even the big guys like Bosch, could duplicate my package and we were top of the heap for it.

How about dem apples! Interesting who you meet here on FF!

I agree to a degree Franc, and then there are those "details" that jump into the fray. For instance, I wouldn't copy your patented package to market my own products without paying you, but I might reuse your package (over and over) to reseal my unused Kraft cheese. Another example, I might make copies of my software or my legally purchased music to be used and reused over the years to come. Certainly don't want to pay each time I listen to Another Brick in the Wall...

In Monsanto's case I would think that Mr. Farmer would be OK as long as he wasn't selling the actual seeds to his neighbors.

EDIT: Looks like I was posting the same time as Bamby, so sorry if there is any duplication in theory.
 

300 H and H

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Glad to see you guys are beginning to figure out the boys at Monsanto. They have every trick in the book at their disposal. The first generation RR soybean, the patent expired. Just like a pharma, they released a newly patented second generation RR soybean. (RR means round up ready) But first they had to make damn sure that NONE of the older stuff remained that wasn't too old to germinate of the older pateneted, but expired lines. I, and many other farmers feel the new RRII soybeans are not much if at all different that the "old" lines. It is simply a way for them to extend their strangle hold on producers, for another Patent period. What is different and patentable about the new RRII is highly debateable. I think some one in the patent office, perhaps many are recieveing gifts to let this happen unabated.

Clarance Thomas of SCOTUS came directly from Monsanto's home office, head of the legal department for these guys.....EPA is chalked full of "old" Monstano managment.

Nothing would suit me more than the end of this dynasty...And the end of Monsanto. Farmers are wising up slowly here. They see the pandering of Monsanto's TV comercials, praising the American farmer. ( we know propaganda, when we see it...) Problem is we are well aware of how much we are paying them in royalties each year, even though they try their hardest to actually hide how much their royalties are. Usually royalties decline per unit over time. RR soybean how ever have had a 6X increase since 1996. These guys have done their best to remove any advantage they had over conventional crops by secretly inflating their royalties over the years. The Patent office doesn't get involved with this at all. I owned a Patent like Franc, but it has now expired, so I am not unfamiliar with the process, and the defence of a Patent. I would hate to say how many farmers are not in the business since they tangled with Monsanto and lost the farm....

If you read the groweres agreement in place nowdays, you would find that those rules of the agreement are tranferable with the LAND if it is sold. The new owner must abide by the technology agreement...This is far fetched, and they have not been to court with anyone on this as of yet I think anyway. No lawyer who would read it would reccomend you sign it at all. It is yet another example of how these fat hogs like to wallow in the mud....

Since I don't partake in their offerings, I can speak freely, I hope anyway. Their search engines are going to find this, and they will read it. Fuck you guys at Monsanto if you do!! Many farmers are asking seed dealers about conventional seeds this year. They are thinking they are paying too much for too little. Glycosate (round up) is not effective on many weeds anyore. Their castle my be starting to crumble here....:doh::smile:

Keep up this converation and discover who Monsanto really is!!

Regards, Kirk
 
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Bamby

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Since I don't partake in their offerings, I can speak freely, I hope anyway. Their search engines are going to find this, and they will read it. Fuck you guys at Monsanto if you do!! Many farmers are asking seed dealers about conventional seeds this year. They are thinking they are paying too much for too little. Glycosate (round up) is not effective on many weeds anyore. Their castle my be starting to crumble here....:doh::smile:

Keep up this converation and discover who Monsanto really is!!

Regards, Kirk

It may pay to step lightly here, simply because you actually may inadvertently still may be planting Monsanto seeds. It seems it geting increasingly difficult to attempt to grow anything without lining their pockets first...:hammer:

The Four Steps Required to Keep Monsanto OUT of Your Garden

Seed catalogs are starting to arrive in mailboxes across the Northern
Hemisphere with home gardeners everywhere starting to plan which seeds
they will sow in their spring gardens.

A positive trend in recent years is the growing number of gardening
enthusiasts choosing to plant gardens using organic and/or heirloom
seeds.

What most of these home gardeners don’t realize is that corporate
behemoth and GMO titan Monsanto has been gobbling up the seed market
faster than a caterpillar can munch a tomato plant! With one fell swoop
in 2005, Monsanto grabbed approximately 40% of the US vegetable seed market with its acquisition of Seminis.

This means that a home gardener could unknowingly be supporting the
development and proliferation of genetically modified crops if the seeds
used are from Seminis. In addition, Monsanto now apparently owns many of the names of the seed varieties themselves!

Planting a sustainable home garden is much more than just choosing
certified organic seeds and seedlings because Monsanto has cleverly
positioned itself to make money off the home gardening trend.

Does this mean that even if you buy organic or heirloom seeds from a
completely independent company some of your purchase might be supporting the bad guys?

Yes, it does.


Surprise!

Home gardeners would do well to bone up on where to purchase
their seeds so they aren’t inadvertently doing business with companies
that maintain a working relationship with Monsanto-Seminis or were
acquired by them.

My friend Beth in Minnesota, an avid food researcher, has been
digging around to figure out the best ways to buy seeds and seedlings
for your home garden without one red cent going to Monsanto.

Buying Organic or Heirloom Seeds Without Supporting Monsanto


Beth has done her very best to make sure the information she has
uncovered is current and pertinent with updated listings for the 2013
growing season. Here are the steps she recommends for those who want to
truly strike a blow for sustainability in every way with their home
gardens:

Avoid buying from the seed companies affiliated with Monsanto. Here’s a list of these seed companies: http://www.seminis.com/global/us/products/Pages/Home-Garden.aspx

Buy from this list of companies Monsanto HASN’T bought and are not affiliated or do business with Seminis: http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/2012/03/06/monsanto-free-seed-companies/

Avoid certain heirloom varieties because Monsanto now apparently owns the names. This article lists the seed varieties to avoid: http://www.occupymonsanto360.org/2012/03/17/monsanto-owned-seednames/

Ask seed companies if they have taken the Safe Seed Pledge. Here’s a list of companies that have done so: http://www.councilforresponsiblegenetics.org/ViewPage.aspx?pageId=261

More Background on Monsanto’s Quest for World Seed Domination
Monsanto’s corporate quest is clearly to make money on each and every
one of us whether we choose to eat supermarket frankenfoods produced
with abominable, patented GM crops or carefully plant and tend an
organic garden at home. Here’s some background information on the
subject you may find interesting as well as enlightening:
http://www.agardenforthehouse.com/2...forearmed-veggie-varieties-owned-by-monsanto/


http://www.agardenforthehouse.com/2012/02/keep-monsanto-out-of-your-veggie-patch/

http://www.treehugger.com/green-food/keep-monsanto-out-of-your-garden-this-spring.html
If you are a home gardener and have information to contribute
regarding these steps, please add to the discussion in the comments
section. Also, please spread the word via gardening forums you
may participate in that folks need to be very careful when seed sourcing
for their spring gardens this year else they might be unknowingly
supporting Monsanto.

Let’s make this the year when Monsanto’s grip on the worldwide seed
market loosens and the movement to seed sustainability gains momentum!

**Update:
The day after this article was published,
the CEO of a large soybean seed company in the Midwest emailed me
complaining that the article was short sighted and insisting that
Monsanto is helping feed the starving people of the world. He even went
so far as to say that GMO crops are “proven safe”. Click here for the text of this CEO’s entire email plus my written reply.

I have also received email complaints from two other seed companies,
one in Canada and one in Arkansas, that do business with
Monsanto-Seminis and were offended by what they viewed as inaccuracies
in the post. I have tried my best to adjust a few words here and there
to make the message of the post more clear and precise so as to not
result in any consumer confusion over the information.

I have received no complaints about this article to date from seed
companies completely independent of any affiliation or ties to
Monsanto-Seminis.

Sarah, The Healthy Home Economist
 

AAUTOFAB1

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good to know the seeds i use are not going to support the GMO train,great info in the links, looked up where i have purchased seeds in the past. at least in my family the seed bank is Monsanto free. not that i grow large crops but if i want to sell my crops they are mine to sell.

now some of the feed corn i got from my uncle may be, i'll have to call and ask.
 

FrancSevin

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How about dem apples! Interesting who you meet here on FF!

I agree to a degree Franc, and then there are those "details" that jump into the fray. For instance, I wouldn't copy your patented package to market my own products without paying you, but I might reuse your package (over and over) to reseal my unused Kraft cheese. Another example, I might make copies of my software or my legally purchased music to be used and reused over the years to come. Certainly don't want to pay each time I listen to Another Brick in the Wall...

In Monsanto's case I would think that Mr. Farmer would be OK as long as he wasn't selling the actual seeds to his neighbors.

EDIT: Looks like I was posting the same time as Bamby, so sorry if there is any duplication in theory.

Just to be clear, my patent was on the apparatus that made the package, not the package itself. I could not extend my "discovery" to include the resulting package.

So to compare this minor, but important, detail to the current discussion, if one can separate the actual patent from the results from the use or application of the patent, then you can legaly get around the patent. In other words, if Roundup resistance can be acheived thru another method, then Monsanto cannot successfully sue.

That is why Monsanto has the large contract with all the tiny type. And, it is why the lawyers can poke away at it. If the contract is too broad,too vague or too inclusive perhaps they can separate the little farmer from his delimma.
 

300 H and H

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I don't violate any rules when I farm. I adhere to all rules and regulations, applicable to my farming enterprise. I have done so of my own free will. I don't have anything to hide. I sign their agreements. This dosn't mean I cann't hold an opinion of them and their practices. Or voice it, as the first amendment says we have the right too.

I could go on and on about what they are up to here, and many would find is just on the hazy side of gray, with what, and how they have been able to do. They do worry about farmer opinion, big time. This is why they run ads in our market anyway on TV idolizing the "American Farmer"...Many loyal large cutomers are rewarded with carribbian vacations this time of year, to help keep the wheels greased. But I feel the tide may be turning on them in a small way. I know of a farm the land owner wants only non GMO on this year. Some are considering conventinal seeds for reducing production costs as the new tech seeds aren't able to show a profitable return for the extra cost of the patented seed....We may see more of that kind of influence on what is being grown. What has gotten better is that the seed companies, or at least some of them have released their best and newest genetics in a non GMO form. Used to be to get the newest and best you had to get it after it was modified gentically. This was tilting the table hard economically favor the GMO varieties. Round up being the cheapest most effective weed killer, made that so. THey have nearly total market share in several crops that are bio tech. This is starting to change as Round up is loosing it's efficasy as the weedy plants mutate to with stand it naturally.... I hope it continues, new releases are offer in the non GMO form as well as GMO. Time will tell.

Labling food products that conatain GMO organisms is the answer in the end. Let the consumer decide. But Monsanto won't allow that at all. Neither will so other bio tech companies out there, not just Monsanto.

Regards, Kirk
 
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jimbo

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I don't violate any rules when I farm. I adhere to all rules and regulations, applicable to my farming enterprise. I have done so of my own free will. I don't have anything to hide. I sign their agreements. This dosn't mean I cann't hold an opinion of them and their practices. Or voice it, as the first amendment says we have the right too.

I could go on and on about what they are up to here, and many would find is just on the hazy side of gray, with what, and how they have been able to do. They do worry about farmer opinion, big time. This is why they run ads in our market anyway on TV idolizing the "American Farmer"...Many loyal large cutomers are rewarded with carribbian vacations this time of year, to help keep the wheels greased. But I feel the tide may be turning on them in a small way. I know of a farm the land owner wants only non GMO on this year. Some are considering conventinal seeds for reducing production costs as the new tech seeds aren't able to show a profitable return for the extra cost of the patented seed....We may see more of that kind of influence on what is being grown. What has gotten better is that the seed companies, or at least some of them have released their best and newest genetics in a non GMO form. Used to be to get the newest and best you had to get it after it was modified gentically. This was tilting the table hard economically favor the GMO varieties. Round up being the cheapest most effective weed killer, made that so. THey have nearly total market share in several crops that are bio tech. This is starting to change as Round up is loosing it's efficasy as the weedy plants mutate to with stand it naturally.... I hope it continues, new releases are offer in the non GMO form as well as GMO. Time will tell.

Labling food products that conatain GMO organisms is the answer in the end. Let the consumer decide. But Monsanto won't allow that at all. Neither will so other bio tech companies out there, not just Monsanto.

Regards, Kirk
I agree that one of the few functions that are difficult to accomplish on an individual basis is individual analysis of each and every product we purchase. IMO labeling products so that I can make my choices based in valid information is a function of government, whether it is food labeling and grading, or checking the effectiveness of seat belts.

In the case of Monsanto, if there are no other competing vendors of seeds, then monopoly laws should come into play.
 

FrancSevin

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I would remind all tht luther Burbank was a pioner inthe hybridizing and grafting of food crop plants. His work was derided by many as "the devil's work"

Our horticultural supremecy owes its success to such pioneers as Burbank and the Stark family along with seed, pest control and fertilizer pioneers who gave our nation's farmers the ability to feed the world.

Mosanto may seem to be this big ugly brute but, like the Oil companies, we all benefit from the risks they take to provide us with the products they make. That they benefit so profitably is not evil.

And that they protect their wealth is not a crime.
 

Bamby

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I would remind all tht luther Burbank was a pioner inthe hybridizing and grafting of food crop plants. His work was derided by many as "the devil's work"

Our horticultural supremecy owes its success to such pioneers as Burbank and the Stark family along with seed, pest control and fertilizer pioneers who gave our nation's farmers the ability to feed the world.

Mosanto may seem to be this big ugly brute but, like the Oil companies, we all benefit from the risks they take to provide us with the products they make. That they benefit so profitably is not evil.

And that they protect their wealth is not a crime.

They are criminal in the fact that they disrupt the free enterprise system as a whole to exclusively protect "their interests". They disallow food producers to post, market, and sell products as free of GM ingredients. They spent a huge amount on $$ attempting to make sure they had their way in Ca. in the last election. If you think they're products are safe eat as much of their GM shit as you like. But personally I'd like to be able to see it labeled and have an opportunity to make my own choice.
 

Bamby

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Though Bayer actually hold the patent on "Clothianidin" utilized as a seed treatment on GM corn. Monsanto also utilizes it on their GM products.

Study says insecticide used with GM corn highly toxic to bees

Sierra Club, US bee and honey groups urge EPA to ban clothianidin

An insecticide used as a seed treatment on genetically modified corn and other crops has been found to be highly toxic to honey bees, according to a study published recently in the journal PLoS ONE.

The study may be a key to solving the mystery of Colony Collapse Disorder that has decimated bee populations over the last five years, causing losses of 30% and more of honey bee colonies every year since 2006, according to the US Department of Agriculture.
Found at levels 700,000 times a bee’s lethal dosage

Scientists at Purdue University documented major adverse impacts from the insecticide clothianidin (product name “Poncho”) on honey bee health. The study found that bees are exposed to clothianidin and other pesticides throughout the foraging period. Researchers found extremely high levels of clothianidin—as high as 700,000 times a bee’s lethal dosage—in seed planter exhaust material. It was found in foraging areas long after treated seed had been planted and in dead bees near hives in Indiana. It was also found in pollen collected by bees and stored in the hive. The study raises questions about the long-term survival of this major pollinator.

“This research should nail the coffin lid shut on clothianidin,” says Laurel Hopwood, Sierra Club’s chairwoman of the Genetic Engineering Action Team. “Despite numerous attempts by the beekeeping industry and conservation organizations to persuade the EPA to ban clothianidin, the EPA has failed to protect the food supply for the American people.”

“Clothianidin is among those most toxic to bees”

Clothianidin, which is manufactured by German agricultural company Bayer Crop Science, is of the neonicotinoid family of systemic pesticides. Clothianidin is taken up by a plant’s vascular system and expressed through pollen and nectar from which bees then forage and drink. Neonicotinoids are of particular concern because they have cumulative, sublethal effects on insect pollinators that correspond to Colony Collapse Disorder symptoms—namely, neurobehavioral and immune system disruptions.

According to James Frazier, Ph.D., professor of entomology at Penn State’s College of Agricultural Sciences, “Among the neonicotinoids, clothianidin is among those most toxic for honey bees; and this combined with its systemic movement in plants has produced a troubling mix of scientific results pointing to its potential risk for honey bees through current agricultural practices.”

Clothianidin has been widely used as a seed treatment on many of the country’s major crops, particularly GM corn, since 2003. Back then, the Environmental Protection Agency granted it a “conditional registration,” while EPA waited for Bayer to conduct a field study assessing the insecticide’s threat to bee colony health.

“Continued use is in violation of the law”

Bayer submitted its study to the EPA in 2007, two years after it was due. A memo written by EPA scientists and leaked in 2010 said that Bayer’s study was flawed, stating that “deficiencies were identified that render the study supplemental.”

The memo was found by Tom Theobald, a founding member of the Boulder County Beekeeper’s Association. “The document reveals that the agency has been allowing the widespread use of this bee-toxic pesticide, against evidence that it’s highly toxic to bees. Clothianidin has failed to meet the requirements for registration. Its continued use is in violation of the law,” Theobald says.

Upon learning of the EPA’s failures, the National Honey Bee Advisory Board, the American Beekeeping Federation, and the American Honey Producer’s Association urged the agency in a December 2010 letter to cancel the registration of this pesticide. Yet despite the fact that clothianidin had failed a critical life cycle study which was required for registration, the agency responded in a February 2011 letter stating that it wasn’t “aware of any data that reasonably demonstrates that bee colonies are subject to elevated losses due to chronic exposure to this pesticide” and “does not intend to initiate suspension or cancellation actions against the registered uses of clothianidin.”

“Time for EPA to cancel this bee-killing pesticide”

Now with the published study documenting harm to bees from clothianidin, beekeepers, honey producers, and environmental groups are calling on the EPA again to ban it.

“EPA said we don’t have the science (to ban clothianidin). Now we have the science,” Theobald says.

Neil Carman, Ph.D., scientific advisor to Sierra Club, says: “A huge shoe has dropped. US researchers have documented major adverse impacts from clothianidin seed treatments in corn on honey bee health.” Carman further explains “Because of the vital role played by honey bees in crop pollination, honey bee demise threatens the production of crops that produce one-third of American diets, including nearly 100 fruits and vegetables. The value of crops pollinated by bees exceeds $15 billion in the US alone.”

Hopwood exclaims, “The time is now for EPA to quit dodging the illusion of oversight and instead, cancel this bee-killing pesticide. If we travel too far down our current path, we could create conditions in our food system much like those that brought down the financial system.”

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300 H and H

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Thanks Bamby I wasn't aware of what you posted above.

If us farmers knew it was the cause, many would not use this product. It's use is very wide spread, especially in corn fallowing corn rotations.

Regards, Kirk
 

waybomb

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If you sign a piece of paper that says you won't reuse the seeds, well, end of story. Be honorable and do not reuse the seeds. You signed, right?

Seems it would not be enforceable unless both sides benefited. And it seems both sides do.

If you don't like the deal, move on and don't sign.

Spoken from a non farmer city slicker. But nonetheless a bit of understanding of contract law.
 

Short bus

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Where did monsanto get the seeds to develop? did they invent them? NO
I think no one should sell the seeds from crop but they did not invent the soybean so scerw them, on the other hand the contract was entered into with and if binding Should be upheld. If they win will they go against the birds who spred seads or are they not a party to the contract?
 

FrancSevin

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They are criminal in the fact that they disrupt the free enterprise system as a whole to exclusively protect "their interests". They disallow food producers to post, market, and sell products as free of GM ingredients. They spent a huge amount on $$ attempting to make sure they had their way in Ca. in the last election. If you think they're products are safe eat as much of their GM shit as you like. But personally I'd like to be able to see it labeled and have an opportunity to make my own choice.
Immoral perhaps,,,,,but not crimminal. There is no law inthe USA that requires noting GM modifications. That's a European thing.

As for safe to eat, that remains another question.

I don't eat feed corn or soy products myself.

But this is about the law. You are mixing metaphors here. Substantuate your arguments with the law. Not emotion. And under the law, Monsanto can produce any legal product they own and lay claim to property rights. Irregardless of it's wholesomeness to your palate.

I don't care for Monsanto or ADM or Con Agra business practices myself. Doesn't change my understanding of the law. Or free enterprise as you wish to claim here.

If enterprise were truely "free" and unfettered, there would be no contract law and certainly no patent law.
 

Bamby

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If this "Law" remains unchallenged ultimately everyone will be paying royalties to Monsanto despite where the seeds were sourced. If their propriety software were always segregated from farm fields to their point of consumption maybe I could see it differently. But ultimately everyone's crops do get dumped into grain elevators and mixed together, so soon all corn, soybeans, etc, will carry Monsanto traits and nobody will be able to plant anything without paying a "Monsanto Tax".
 

Bamby

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By any chance do you eat potatoes? A long but worthy read....

Playing God in the Garden
By Michael Pollan

Planting

Today I planted something new in my vegetable garden -- something very new, as a matter of fact. It's a potato called the New Leaf Superior, which has been genetically engineered -- by Monsanto, the chemical giant recently turned ''life sciences'' giant -- to produce its own insecticide. This it can do in every cell of every leaf, stem, flower, root and (here's the creepy part) spud. The scourge of potatoes has always been the Colorado potato beetle, a handsome and voracious insect that can pick a plant clean of its leaves virtually overnight. Any Colorado potato beetle that takes so much as a nibble of my New Leafs will supposedly keel over and die, its digestive tract pulped, in effect, by the bacterial toxin manufactured in the leaves of these otherwise ordinary Superiors. (Superiors are the thin-skinned white spuds sold fresh in the supermarket.) You're probably wondering if I plan to eat these potatoes, or serve them to my family. That's still up in the air; it's only the first week of May, and harvest is a few months off.

Certainly my New Leafs are aptly named. They're part of a new class of crop plants that is rapidly changing the American food chain. This year, the fourth year that genetically altered seed has been on the market, some 45 million acres of American farmland have been planted with biotech crops, most of it corn, soybeans, cotton and potatoes that have been engineered to either produce their own pesticides or withstand herbicides. Though Americans have already begun to eat genetically engineered potatoes, corn and soybeans, industry research confirms what my own informal surveys suggest: hardly any of us knows it. The reason is not hard to find. The biotech industry, with the concurrence of the Food and Drug Administration, has decided we don't need to know it, so biotech foods carry no identifying labels. In a dazzling feat of positioning, the industry has succeeded in depicting these plants simultaneously as the linchpins of a biological revolution -- part of a ''new agricultural paradigm'' that will make farming more sustainable, feed the world and improve health and nutrition -- and, oddly enough, as the same old stuff, at least so far as those of us at the eating end of the food chain should be concerned.

This convenient version of reality has been roundly rejected by both consumers and farmers across the Atlantic. Last summer, biotech food emerged as the most explosive environmental issue in Europe. Protesters have destroyed dozens of field trials of the very same ''frankenplants'' (as they are sometimes called) that we Americans are already serving for dinner, and throughout Europe the public has demanded that biotech food be labeled in the market.

By growing my own transgenic crop -- and talking with scientists and farmers involved with biotech -- I hoped to discover which of us was crazy. Are the Europeans overreacting, or is it possible that we've been underreacting to genetically engineered food?

After digging two shallow trenches in my garden and lining them with compost, I untied the purple mesh bag of seed potatoes that Monsanto had sent and opened up the Grower Guide tied around its neck. (Potatoes, you may recall from kindergarten experiments, are grown not from seed but from the eyes of other potatoes.) The guide put me in mind not so much of planting potatoes as booting up a new software release. By ''opening and using this product,'' the card stated, I was now ''licensed'' to grow these potatoes, but only for a single generation; the crop I would water and tend and harvest was mine, yet also not mine. That is, the potatoes I will harvest come August are mine to eat or sell, but their genes remain the intellectual property of Monsanto, protected under numerous United States patents, including Nos. 5,196,525, 5,164,316, 5,322,938 and 5,352,605. Were I to save even one of them to plant next year --something I've routinely done with potatoes in the past -- I would be breaking Federal law. The small print in the Grower Guide also brought the news that my potato plants were themselves a pesticide, registered with the Environmental Protection Agency.

If proof were needed that the intricate industrial food chain that begins with seeds and ends on our dinner plates is in the throes of profound change, the small print that accompanied my New Leaf will do. That food chain has been unrivaled for its productivity -- on average, a single American farmer today grows enough food each year to feed 100 people. But this accomplishment has come at a price. The modern industrial farmer cannot achieve such yields without enormous amounts of chemical fertilizer, pesticide, machinery and fuel, a set of capital-intensive inputs, as they're called, that saddle the farmer with debt, threaten his health, erode his soil and destroy its fertility, pollute the ground water and compromise the safety of the food we eat.

We've heard all this before, of course, but usually from environmentalists and organic farmers; what is new is to hear the same critique from conventional farmers, government officials and even many agribusiness corporations, all of whom now acknowledge that our food chain stands in need of reform. Sounding more like Wendell Berry than the agribusiness giant it is, Monsanto declared in its most recent annual report that ''current agricultural technology is not sustainable.''

What is supposed to rescue the American food chain is biotechnology -- the replacement of expensive and toxic chemical inputs with expensive but apparently benign genetic information: crops that, like my New Leafs, can protect themselves from insects and disease without being sprayed with pesticides. With the advent of biotechnology, agriculture is entering the information age, and more than any other company, Monsanto is positioning itself to become its Microsoft, supplying the proprietary ''operating systems'' -- the metaphor is theirs -- to run this new generation of plants.

There is, of course, a second food chain in America: organic agriculture. And while it is still only a fraction of the size of the conventional food chain, it has been growing in leaps and bounds -- in large part because of concerns over the safety of conventional agriculture. Organic farmers have been among biotechnology's fiercest critics, regarding crops like my New Leafs as inimical to their principles and, potentially, a threat to their survival. That's because Bt, the bacterial toxin produced in my New Leafs (and in many other biotech plants) happens to be the same insecticide organic growers have relied on for decades. Instead of being flattered by the imitation, however, organic farmers are up in arms: the widespread use of Bt in biotech crops is likely to lead to insect resistance, thus robbing organic growers of one of their most critical tools; that is, Monsanto's version of sustainable agriculture may threaten precisely those farmers who pioneered sustainable farming.

Sprouting

After several days of drenching rain, the sun appeared on May 15, and so did my New Leafs. A dozen deep-green shoots pushed up out of the soil and commenced to grow -- faster and more robustly than any of the other potatoes in my garden. Apart from their vigor, though, my New Leafs looked perfectly normal. And yet as I watched them multiply their lustrous dark-green leaves those first few days, eagerly awaiting the arrival of the first doomed beetle, I couldn't help thinking of them as existentially different from the rest of my plants.

All domesticated plants are in some sense artificial -- living archives of both cultural and natural information that we in some sense ''design.'' A given type of potato reflects the values we've bred into it -- one that has been selected to yield long, handsome french fries or unblemished round potato chips is the expression of a national food chain that likes its potatoes highly processed. At the same time, some of the more delicate European fingerlings I'm growing alongside my New Leafs imply an economy of small market growers and a taste for eating potatoes fresh. Yet all these qualities already existed in the potato, somewhere within the range of genetic possibilities presented by Solanum tuberosum. Since distant species in nature cannot be crossed, the breeder's art has always run up against a natural limit of what a potato is willing, or able, to do. Nature, in effect, has exercised a kind of veto on what culture can do with a potato.

My New Leafs are different. Although Monsanto likes to depict biotechnology as just another in an ancient line of human modifications of nature going back to fermentation, in fact genetic engineering overthrows the old rules governing the relationship of nature and culture in a plant. For the first time, breeders can bring qualities from anywhere in nature into the genome of a plant -- from flounders (frost tolerance), from viruses (disease resistance) and, in the case of my potatoes, from Bacillus thuringiensis, the soil bacterium that produces the organic insecticide known as Bt. The introduction into a plant of genes transported not only across species but whole phyla means that the wall of that plant's essential identity -- its irreducible wildness, you might say -- has been breached.

But what is perhaps most astonishing about the New Leafs coming up in my garden is the human intelligence that the inclusion of the Bt gene represents. In the past, that intelligence resided outside the plant, in the mind of the organic farmers who deployed Bt (in the form of a spray) to manipulate the ecological relationship of certain insects and a certain bacterium as a way to foil those insects. The irony about the New Leafs is that the cultural information they encode happens to be knowledge that resides in the heads of the very sort of people -- that is, organic growers -- who most distrust high technology.

One way to look at biotechnology is that it allows a larger portion of human intelligence to be incorporated into the plant itself. In this sense, my New Leafs are just plain smarter than the rest of my potatoes. The others will depend on my knowledge and experience when the Colorado potato beetles strike; the New Leafs, knowing what I know about bugs and Bt, will take care of themselves. So while my biotech plants might seem like alien beings, that's not quite right. They're more like us than like other plants because there's more of us in them.

Growing

To find out how my potatoes got that way, I traveled to suburban St. Louis in early June. My New Leafs are clones of clones of plants that were first engineered seven years ago in Monsanto's $150 million research facility, a long, low-slung brick building on the banks of the Missouri that would look like any other corporate complex were it not for the 26 greenhouses that crown its roof like shimmering crenellations of glass.

Dave Stark, a molecular biologist and co-director of Naturemark, Monsanto's potato subsidiary, escorted me through the clean rooms where potatoes are genetically engineered. Technicians sat at lab benches before petri dishes in which fingernail-size sections of potato stem had been placed in a nutrient mixture. To this the technicians added a solution of agrobacterium, a disease bacterium whose modus operandi is to break into a plant cell's nucleus and insert some of its own DNA. Essentially, scientists smuggle the Bt gene into the agrobacterium's payload, and then the bacterium splices it into the potato's DNA. The technicians also add a ''marker'' gene, a kind of universal product code that allows Monsanto to identify its plants after they leave the lab.

A few days later, once the slips of potato stem have put down roots, they're moved to the potato greenhouse up on the roof. Here, Glenda DeBrecht, a horticulturist, invited me to don latex gloves and help her transplant pinky-size plantlets from their petri dish to small pots. The whole operation is performed thousands of times, largely because there is so much uncertainty about the outcome. There's no way of telling where in the genome the new DNA will land, and if it winds up in the wrong place, the new gene won't be expressed (or it will be poorly expressed) or the plant may be a freak. I was struck by how the technology could at once be astoundingly sophisticated and yet also a shot in the genetic dark.

''There's still a lot we don't understand about gene expression,'' Stark acknowledged. A great many factors influence whether, or to what extent, a new gene will do what it's supposed to, including the environment. In one early German experiment, scientists succeeded in splicing the gene for redness into petunias. All went as planned until the weather turned hot and an entire field of red petunias suddenly and inexplicably lost their pigment. The process didn't seem nearly as simple as Monsanto's cherished software metaphor would suggest.

When I got home from St. Louis, I phoned Richard Lewontin, the Harvard geneticist, to ask him what he thought of the software metaphor. ''From an intellectual-property standpoint, it's exactly right,'' he said. ''But it's a bad one in terms of biology. It implies you feed a program into a machine and get predictable results. But the genome is very noisy. If my computer made as many mistakes as an organism does'' -- in interpreting its DNA, he meant -- ''I'd throw it out.''

I asked him for a better metaphor. ''An ecosystem,'' he offered. ''You can always intervene and change something in it, but there's no way of knowing what all the downstream effects will be or how it might affect the environment. We have such a miserably poor understanding of how the organism develops from its DNA that I would be surprised if we don't get one rude shock after another.''

Flowering

My own crop was thriving when I got home from St. Louis; the New Leafs were as big as bushes, crowned with slender flower stalks. Potato flowers are actually quite pretty, at least by vegetable standards -- five-petaled pink stars with yellow centers that give off a faint rose perfume. One sultry afternoon I watched the bumblebees making their lazy rounds of my potato blossoms, thoughtlessly powdering their thighs with yellow pollen grains before lumbering off to appointments with other blossoms, others species.

Uncertainty is the theme that unifies much of the criticism leveled against biotech agriculture by scientists and environmentalists. By planting millions of acres of genetically altered plants, we have introduced something novel into the environment and the food chain, the consequences of which are not -- and at this point, cannot be -- completely understood. One of the uncertainties has to do with those grains of pollen bumblebees are carting off from my potatoes. That pollen contains Bt genes that may wind up in some other, related plant, possibly conferring a new evolutionary advantage on that species. ''Gene flow,'' the scientific term for this phenomenon, occurs only between closely related species, and since the potato evolved in South America, the chances are slim that my Bt potato genes will escape into the wilds of Connecticut. (It's interesting to note that while biotechnology depends for its power on the ability to move genes freely among species and even phyla, its environmental safety depends on the very opposite phenomenon: on the integrity of species in nature and their rejection of foreign genetic material.)

Yet what happens if and when Peruvian farmers plant Bt potatoes? Or when I plant a biotech crop that does have local relatives? A study reported in Nature last month found that plant traits introduced by genetic engineering were more likely to escape into the wild than the same traits introduced conventionally.

Andrew Kimbrell, director of the Center for Technology Assessment in Washington, told me he believes such escapes are inevitable. ''Biological pollution will be the environmental nightmare of the 21st century,'' he said when I reached him by phone. ''This is not like chemical pollution -- an oil spill -- that eventually disperses. Biological pollution is an entirely different model, more like a disease. Is Monsanto going to be held legally responsible when one of its transgenes creates a superweed or resistant insect?''

Kimbrell maintains that because our pollution laws were written before the advent of biotechnology, the new industry is being regulated under an ill-fitting regime designed for the chemical age. Congress has so far passed no environmental law dealing specifically with biotech. Monsanto, for its part, claims that it has thoroughly examined all the potential environmental and health risks of its biotech plants, and points out that three regulatory agencies -- the U.S.D.A., the E.P.A. and the F.D.A. -- have signed off on its products. Speaking of the New Leaf, Dave Stark told me, ''This is the most intensively studied potato in history.''

Significant uncertainties remain, however. Take the case of insect resistance to Bt, a potential form of ''biological pollution'' that could end the effectiveness of one of the safest insecticides we have -- and cripple the organic farmers who depend on it. The theory, which is now accepted by most entomologists, is that Bt crops will add so much of the toxin to the environment that insects will develop resistance to it. Until now, resistance hasn't been a worry because the Bt sprays break down quickly in sunlight and organic farmers use them only sparingly. Resistance is essentially a form of co-evolution that seems to occur only when a given pest population is threatened with extinction; under that pressure, natural selection favors whatever chance mutations will allow the species to change and survive.

Working with the E.P.A., Monsanto has developed a ''resistance-management plan'' to postpone that eventuality. Under the plan, farmers who plant Bt crops must leave a certain portion of their land in non-Bt crops to create ''refuges'' for the targeted insects. The goal is to prevent the first Bt-resistant Colorado potato beetle from mating with a second resistant bug, unleashing a new race of superbeetles. The theory is that when a Bt-resistant bug does show up, it can be induced to mate with a susceptible bug from the refuge, thus diluting the new gene for resistance.

But a lot has to go right for Mr. Wrong to meet Miss Right. No one is sure how big the refuges need to be, where they should be situated or whether the farmers will cooperate (creating havens for a detested pest is counter-intuitive, after all), not to mention the bugs. In the case of potatoes, the E.P.A. has made the plan voluntary and lets the companies themselves implement it; there are no E.P.A. enforcement mechanisms. Which is why most of the organic farmers I spoke to dismissed the regulatory scheme as window dressing.

Monsanto executives offer two basic responses to criticism of their Bt crops. The first is that their voluntary resistance-management plans will work, though the company's definition of success will come as small consolation to an organic farmer: Monsanto scientists told me that if all goes well, resistance can be postponed for 30 years. (Some scientists believe it will come in three to five years.) The second response is more troubling. In St. Louis, I met with Jerry Hjelle, Monsanto's vice president for regulatory affairs. Hjelle told me that resistance should not unduly concern us since ''there are a thousand other Bt's out there'' -- other insecticidal proteins. ''We can handle this problem with new products,'' he said. ''The critics don't know what we have in the pipeline.''

And then Hjelle uttered two words that I thought had been expunged from the corporate vocabulary a long time ago: ''Trust us.''

'Trust'' is a key to the success of biotechnology in the marketplace, and while I was in St. Louis, I asked Hjelle and several of his colleagues why they thought the Europeans were resisting biotech food. Austria, Luxembourg and Norway, risking trade war with the United States, have refused to accept imports of genetically altered crops. Activists in England have been staging sit-ins and ''decontaminations'' in biotech test fields. A group of French farmers broke into a warehouse and ruined a shipment of biotech corn seed by urinating on it. The Prince of Wales, who is an ardent organic gardener, waded into the biotech debate last June, vowing in a column in The Daily Telegraph that he would never eat, or serve to his guests, the fruits of a technology that ''takes mankind into realms that belong to God and to God alone.''

Monsanto executives are quick to point out that mad cow disease has made Europeans extremely sensitive about the safety of their food chain and has undermined confidence in their regulators. ''They don't have a trusted agency like the F.D.A. looking after the safety of their food supply,'' said Phil Angell, Monsanto's director of corporate communications. Over the summer, Angell was dispatched repeatedly to Europe to put out the P.R. fires; some at Monsanto worry these could spread to the United States.

I checked with the F.D.A. to find out exactly what had been done to insure the safety of this potato. I was mystified by the fact that the Bt toxin was not being treated as a ''food additive'' subject to labeling, even though the new protein is expressed in the potato itself. The label on a bag of biotech potatoes in the supermarket will tell a consumer all about the nutrients they contain, even the trace amounts of copper. Yet it is silent not only about the fact that those potatoes are the product of genetic engineering but also about their containing an insecticide.

At the F.D.A., I was referred to James Maryanski, who oversees biotech food at the agency. I began by asking him why the F.D.A. didn't consider Bt a food additive. Under F.D.A. law, any novel substance added to a food must -- unless it is ''generally regarded as safe'' (''GRAS,'' in F.D.A. parlance) -- be thoroughly tested and if it changes the product in any way, must be labeled.

''That's easy,'' Maryanski said. ''Bt is a pesticide, so it's exempt'' from F.D.A. regulation. That is, even though a Bt potato is plainly a food, for the purposes of Federal regulation it is not a food but a pesticide and therefore falls under the jurisdiction of the E.P.A.

Yet even in the case of those biotech crops over which the F.D.A. does have jurisdiction, I learned that F.D.A. regulation of biotech food has been largely voluntary since 1992, when Vice President Dan Quayle issued regulatory guidelines for the industry as part of the Bush Administration's campaign for ''regulatory relief.'' Under the guidelines, new proteins engineered into foods are regarded as additives (unless they're pesticides), but as Maryanski explained, ''the determination whether a new protein is GRAS can be made by the company.'' Companies with a new biotech food decide for themselves whether they need to consult with the F.D.A. by following a series of ''decision trees'' that pose yes or no questions like this one: ''Does. . .the introduced protein raise any safety concern?''

Since my Bt potatoes were being regulated as a pesticide by the E.P.A. rather than as a food by the F.D.A., I wondered if the safety standards are the same. ''Not exactly,'' Maryanski explained. The F.D.A. requires ''a reasonable certainty of no harm'' in a food additive, a standard most pesticides could not meet. After all, ''pesticides are toxic to something,'' Maryanski pointed out, so the E.P.A. instead establishes human ''tolerances'' for each chemical and then subjects it to a risk-benefit analysis.

When I called the E.P.A. and asked if the agency had tested my Bt potatoes for safety as a human food, the answer was. . .not exactly. It seems the E.P.A. works from the assumption that if the original potato is safe and the Bt protein added to it is safe, then the whole New Leaf package is presumed to be safe. Some geneticists believe this reasoning is flawed, contending that the process of genetic engineering itself may cause subtle, as yet unrecognized changes in a food.

The original Superior potato is safe, obviously enough, so that left the Bt toxin, which was fed to mice, and they ''did fine, had no side effects,'' I was told. I always feel better knowing that my food has been poison-tested by mice, though in this case there was a small catch: the mice weren't actually eating the potatoes, not even an extract from the potatoes, but rather straight Bt produced in a bacterial culture.

So are my New Leafs safe to eat? Probably, assuming that a New Leaf is nothing more than the sum of a safe potato and a safe pesticide, and further assuming that the E.P.A.'s idea of a safe pesticide is tantamount to a safe food. Yet I still had a question. Let us assume that my potatoes are a pesticide -- a very safe pesticide. Every pesticide in my garden shed -- including the Bt sprays -- carries a lengthy warning label. The label on my bottle of Bt says, among other things, that I should avoid inhaling the spray or getting it in an open wound. So if my New Leaf potatoes contain an E.P.A.-registered pesticide, why don't they carry some such label?

Maryanski had the answer. At least for the purposes of labeling, my New Leafs have morphed yet again, back into a food: the Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act gives the F.D.A. sole jurisdiction over the labeling of plant foods, and the F.D.A. has ruled that biotech foods need be labeled only if they contain known allergens or have otherwise been ''materially'' changed.

But isn't turning a potato into a pesticide a material change?

It doesn't matter. The Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act specifically bars the F.D.A. from including any information about pesticides on its food labels.

I thought about Maryanski's candid and wondrous explanations the next time I met Phil Angell, who again cited the critical role of the F.D.A. in assuring Americans that biotech food is safe. But this time he went even further. ''Monsanto should not have to vouchsafe the safety of biotech food,'' he said. ''Our interest is in selling as much of it as possible. Assuring its safety is the F.D.A.'s job.''

Meeting the Beetles

My Colorado potato beetle vigil came to an end the first week of July, shortly before I went to Idaho to visit potato growers. I spied a single mature beetle sitting on a New Leaf leaf; when I reached to pick it up, the beetle fell drunkenly to the ground. It had been sickened by the plant and would soon be dead. My New Leafs were working.

From where a typical American potato grower stands, the New Leaf looks very much like a godsend. That's because where the typical potato grower stands is in the middle of a bright green field that has been doused with so much pesticide that the leaves of his plants wear a dull white chemical bloom that troubles him as much as it does the rest of us. Out there, at least, the calculation is not complex: a product that promises to eliminate the need for even a single spraying of pesticide is, very simply, an economic and environmental boon.

No one can make a better case for a biotech crop than a potato farmer, which is why Monsanto was eager to introduce me to several large growers. Like many farmers today, the ones I met feel trapped by the chemical inputs required to extract the high yields they must achieve in order to pay for the chemical inputs they need. The economics are daunting: a potato farmer in south-central Idaho will spend roughly $1,965 an acre (mainly on chemicals, electricity, water and seed) to grow a crop that, in a good year, will earn him maybe $1,980. That's how much a french-fry processor will pay for the 20 tons of potatoes a single Idaho acre can yield. (The real money in agriculture -- 90 percent of the value added to the food we eat -- is in selling inputs to farmers and then processing their crops.)

Danny Forsyth laid out the dismal economics of potato farming for me one sweltering morning at the coffee shop in downtown Jerome, Idaho. Forsyth, 60, is a slight blue-eyed man with a small gray ponytail; he farms 3,000 acres of potatoes, corn and wheat, and he spoke about agricultural chemicals like a man desperate to kick a bad habit. ''None of us would use them if we had any choice,'' he said glumly.

I asked him to walk me through a season's regimen. It typically begins early in the spring with a soil fumigant; to control nematodes, many potato farmers douse their fields with a chemical toxic enough to kill every trace of microbial life in the soil. Then, at planting, a systemic insecticide (like Thimet) is applied to the soil; this will be absorbed by the young seedlings and, for several weeks, will kill any insect that eats their leaves. After planting, Forsyth puts down an herbicide -- Sencor or Eptam -- to ''clean'' his field of all weeds. When the potato seedlings are six inches tall, an herbicide may be sprayed a second time to control weeds.

Idaho farmers like Forsyth farm in vast circles defined by the rotation of a pivot irrigation system, typically 135 acres to a circle; I'd seen them from 30,000 feet flying in, a grid of verdant green coins pressed into a desert of scrubby brown. Pesticides and fertilizers are simply added to the irrigation system, which on Forsyth's farm draws most of its water from the nearby Snake River. Along with their water, Forsyth's potatoes may receive 10 applications of chemical fertilizer during the growing season. Just before the rows close -- when the leaves of one row of plants meet those of the next -- he begins spraying Bravo, a fungicide, to control late blight, one of the biggest threats to the potato crop. (Late blight, which caused the Irish potato famine, is an airborne fungus that turns stored potatoes into rotting mush.) Blight is such a serious problem that the E.P.A. currently allows farmers to spray powerful fungicides that haven't passed the usual approval process. Forsyth's potatoes will receive eight applications of fungicide.

Twice each summer, Forsyth hires a crop duster to spray for aphids. Aphids are harmless in themselves, but they transmit the leafroll virus, which in Russet Burbank potatoes causes net necrosis, a brown spotting that will cause a processor to reject a whole crop. It happened to Forsyth last year. ''I lost 80,000 bags'' -- they're a hundred pounds each -- ''to net necrosis,'' he said. ''Instead of getting $4.95 a bag, I had to take $2 a bag from the dehydrator, and I was lucky to get that.'' Net necrosis is a purely cosmetic defect; yet because big buyers like McDonald's believe (with good reason) that we don't like to see brown spots in our fries, farmers like Danny Forsyth must spray their fields with some of the most toxic chemicals in use, including an organophosphate called Monitor.

''Monitor is a deadly chemical,'' Forsyth said. ''I won't go into a field for four or five days after it's been sprayed -- even to fix a broken pivot.'' That is, he would sooner lose a whole circle to drought than expose himself or an employee to Monitor, which has been found to cause neurological damage.

It's not hard to see why a farmer like Forsyth, struggling against tight margins and heartsick over chemicals, would leap at a New Leaf -- or, in his case, a New Leaf Plus, which is protected from leafroll virus as well as beetles. ''The New Leaf means I can skip a couple of sprayings, including the Monitor,'' he said. ''I save money, and I sleep better. It also happens to be a nice-looking spud.'' The New Leafs don't come cheaply, however. They cost between $20 and $30 extra per acre in ''technology fees'' to Monsanto.

Forsyth and I discussed organic agriculture, about which he had the usual things to say (''That's all fine on a small scale, but they don't have to feed the world''), as well as a few things I'd never heard from a conventional farmer: ''I like to eat organic food, and in fact I raise a lot of it at the house. The vegetables we buy at the market we just wash and wash and wash. I'm not sure I should be saying this, but I always plant a small area of potatoes without any chemicals. By the end of the season, my field potatoes are fine to eat, but any potatoes I pulled today are probably still full of systemics. I don't eat them.''

Forsyth's words came back to me a few hours later, during lunch at the home of another potato farmer. Steve Young is a progressive and prosperous potato farmer -- he calls himself an agribusinessman. In addition to his 10,000 acres -- the picture window in his family room gazes out on 85 circles, all computer-controlled -- Young owns a share in a successful fertilizer distributorship. His wife prepared a lavish feast for us, and after Dave, their 18-year-old, said grace, adding a special prayer for me (the Youngs are devout Mormons), she passed around a big bowl of homemade potato salad. As I helped myself, my Monsanto escort asked what was in the salad, flashing me a smile that suggested she might already know. ''It's a combination of New Leafs and some of our regular Russets,'' our hostess said proudly. ''Dug this very morning.''

After talking to farmers like Steve Young and Danny Forsyth, and walking fields made virtually sterile by a drenching season-long rain of chemicals, you could understand how Monsanto's New Leaf potato does indeed look like an environmental boon. Set against current practices, growing New Leafs represents a more sustainable way of potato farming. This advance must be weighed, of course, against everything we don't yet know about New Leafs -- and a few things we do: like the problem of Bt resistance I had heard so much about back East. While I was in Idaho and Washington State, I asked potato farmers to show me their refuges. This proved to be a joke.

''I guess that's a refuge over there,'' one Washington farmer told me, pointing to a cornfield.

Monsanto's grower contract never mentions the word ''refuge'' and only requires that farmers plant no more than 80 percent of their fields in New Leaf. Basically, any field not planted in New Leaf is considered a refuge, even if that field has been sprayed to kill every bug in it. Farmers call such acreage a clean field; calling it a refuge is a stretch at best.

It probably shouldn't come as a big surprise that conventional farmers would have trouble embracing the notion of an insect refuge. To insist on real and substantial refuges is to ask them to start thinking of their fields in an entirely new way, less as a factory than as an ecosystem. In the factory, Bt is another in a long line of ''silver bullets'' that work for a while and then get replaced; in the ecosystem, all bugs are not necessarily bad, and the relationships between various species can be manipulated to achieve desired ends -- like the long-term sustainability of Bt.

This is, of course, precisely the approach organic farmers have always taken to their fields, and after my lunch with the Youngs that afternoon, I paid a brief visit to an organic potato grower. Mike Heath is a rugged, laconic man in his mid-50's; like most of the organic farmers I've met, he looks as though he spends a lot more time out of doors than a conventional farmer, and he probably does: chemicals are, among other things, labor-saving devices. While we drove around his 500 acres in a battered old pickup, I asked him about biotechnology. He voiced many reservations -- it was synthetic, there were too many unknowns -- but his main objection to planting a biotech potato was simply that ''it's not what my customers want.''

That point was driven home last December when the Department of Agriculture proposed a new ''organic standards'' rule that, among other things, would have allowed biotech crops to carry an organic label. After receiving a flood of outraged cards and letters, the agency backed off. (As did Monsanto, which asked the U.S.D.A. to shelve the issue for three years.) Heath suggested that biotech may actually help organic farmers by driving worried consumers to the organic label.

I asked Heath about the New Leaf. He had no doubt resistance would come -- ''the bugs are always going to be smarter than we are'' -- and said it was unjust that Monsanto was profiting from the ruin of Bt, something he regarded as a ''public good.''

None of this particularly surprised me; what did was that Heath himself resorted to Bt sprays only once or twice in the last 10 years. I had assumed that organic farmers used Bt or other approved pesticides in much the same way conventional farmers use theirs, but as Heath showed me around his farm, I began to understand that organic farming was a lot more complicated than substituting good inputs for bad. Instead of buying many inputs at all, Heath relied on long and complex crop rotations to prevent a buildup of crop-specific pests -- he has found, for example, that planting wheat after spuds ''confuses'' the potato beetles.

He also plants strips of flowering crops on the margins of his potato fields -- peas or alfalfa, usually -- to attract the beneficial insects that eat beetle larvae and aphids. If there aren't enough beneficials to do the job, he'll introduce ladybugs. Heath also grows eight varieties of potatoes, on the theory that biodiversity in a field, as in the wild, is the best defense against any imbalances in the system. A bad year with one variety will probably be offset by a good year with the others.

''I can eat any potato in this field right now,'' he said, digging Yukon Golds for me to take home. ''Most farmers can't eat their spuds out of the field. But you don't want to start talking about safe food in Idaho.''

Heath's were the antithesis of ''clean'' fields, and, frankly, their weedy margins and overall patchiness made them much less pretty to look at. Yet it was the very complexity of these fields -- the sheer diversity of species, both in space and time -- that made them productive year after year without many inputs. The system provided for most of its needs.

All told, Heath's annual inputs consisted of natural fertilizers (compost and fish powder), ladybugs and a copper spray (for blight) -- a few hundred dollars an acre. Of course, before you can compare Heath's operation with a conventional farm, you've got to add in the extra labor (lots of smaller crops means more work; organic fields must also be cultivated for weeds) and time -- the typical organic rotation calls for potatoes every fifth year, in contrast to every third on a conventional farm. I asked Heath about his yields. To my astonishment, he was digging between 300 and 400 bags per acre -- just as many as Danny Forsyth and only slightly fewer than Steve Young. Heath was also getting almost twice the price for his spuds: $8 a bag from an organic processor who was shipping frozen french fries to Japan.

On the drive back to Boise, I thought about why Heath's farm remained the exception, both in Idaho and elsewhere. Here was a genuinely new paradigm that seemed to work. But while it's true that organic agriculture is gaining ground (I met a big grower in Washington who had just added several organic circles), few of the mainstream farmers I met considered organic a ''realistic'' alternative. For one thing, it's expensive to convert: organic certifiers require a field to go without chemicals for three years before it can be called organic. For another, the U.S.D.A., which sets the course of American agriculture, has long been hostile to organic methods.

But I suspect the real reasons run deeper, and have more to do with the fact that in a dozen ways a farm like Heath's simply doesn't conform to the requirements of a corporate food chain. Heath's type of agriculture doesn't leave much room for the Monsantos of this world: organic farmers buy remarkably little -- some seed, a few tons of compost, maybe a few gallons of ladybugs. That's because the organic farmer's focus is on a process, rather than on products. Nor is that process readily systematized, reduced to, say, a prescribed regime of sprayings like the one Forsyth outlined for me -- regimes that are often designed by companies selling chemicals.

Most of the intelligence and local knowledge needed to run Mike Heath's farm resides in the head of Mike Heath. Growing potatoes conventionally requires intelligence, too, but a large portion of it resides in laboratories in distant places like St. Louis, where it is employed in developing sophisticated chemical inputs. That sort of centralization of agriculture is unlikely to be reversed, if only because there's so much money in it; besides, it's much easier for the farmer to buy prepackaged solutions from big companies. ''Whose Head Is the Farmer Using? Whose Head Is Using the Farmer?'' goes the title of a Wendell Berry essay.

Organic farmers like Heath have also rejected what is perhaps the cornerstone of industrial agriculture: the economies of scale that only a monoculture can achieve. Monoculture -- growing vast fields of the same crop year after year -- is probably the single most powerful simplification of modern agriculture. But monoculture is poorly fitted to the way nature seems to work. Very simply, a field of identical plants will be exquisitely vulnerable to insects, weeds and disease. Monoculture is at the root of virtually every problem that bedevils the modern farmer, and that virtually every input has been designed to solve.

To put the matter baldly, a farmer like Heath is working very hard to adjust his fields and his crops to the nature of nature, while farmers like Forsyth are working equally hard to adjust nature in their fields to the requirement of monoculture and, beyond that, to the needs of the industrial food chain. I remember asking Heath what he did about net necrosis, the bane of Forsyth's existence. ''That's only really a problem with Russet Burbanks,'' he said. ''So I plant other kinds.'' Forsyth can't do that. He's part of a food chain -- at the far end of which stands a long, perfectly golden McDonald's fry -- that demands he grow Russet Burbanks and little else.

This is where biotechnology comes in, to the rescue of Forsyth's Russet Burbanks and, if Monsanto is right, to the whole food chain of which they form a part. Monoculture is in trouble -- the pesticides that make it possible are rapidly being lost, either to resistance or to heightened concerns about their danger. Biotechnology is the new silver bullet that will save monoculture. But a new silver bullet is not a new paradigm -- rather, it's something that will allow the old paradigm to survive. That paradigm will always construe the problem in Forsyth's fields as a Colorado potato beetle problem, rather than as a problem of potato monoculture.

Like the silver bullets that preceded them -- the modern hybrids, the pesticides and the chemical fertilizers -- the new biotech crops will probably, as advertised, increase yields. But equally important, they will also speed the process by which agriculture is being concentrated in a shrinking number of corporate hands. If that process has advanced more slowly in farming than in other sectors of the economy, it is only because nature herself -- her complexity, diversity and sheer intractability in the face of our best efforts at control -- has acted as a check on it. But biotechnology promises to remedy this ''problem,'' too.

Consider, for example, the seed, perhaps the ultimate ''means of production'' in any agriculture. It is only in the last few decades that farmers have begun buying their seed from big companies, and even today many farmers still save some seed every fall to replant in the spring. Brown-bagging, as it is called, allows farmers to select strains particularly well adapted to their needs; since these seeds are often traded, the practice advances the state of the genetic art -- indeed, has given us most of our crop plants. Seeds by their very nature don't lend themselves to commodification: they produce more of themselves ad infinitum (with the exception of certain modern hybrids), and for that reason the genetics of most major crop plants have traditionally been regarded as a common heritage. In the case of the potato, the genetics of most important varieties -- the Burbanks, the Superiors, the Atlantics -- have always been in the public domain. Before Monsanto released the New Leaf, there had never been a multinational seed corporation in the potato-seed business -- there was no money in it.

Biotechnology changes all that. By adding a new gene or two to a Russet Burbank or Superior, Monsanto can now patent the improved variety. Legally, it has been possible to patent a plant for many years, but biologically, these patents have been almost impossible to enforce. Biotechnology partly solves that problem. A Monsanto agent can perform a simple test in my garden and prove that my plants are the company's intellectual property. The contract farmers sign with Monsanto allows company representatives to perform such tests in their fields at will. According to Progressive Farmer, a trade journal, Monsanto is using informants and hiring Pinkertons to enforce its patent rights; it has already brought legal action against hundreds of farmers for patent infringement.

Soon the company may not have to go to the trouble. It is expected to acquire the patent to a powerful new biotechnology called the Terminator, which will, in effect, allow the company to enforce its patents biologically. Developed by the U.S.D.A. in partnership with Delta and Pine Land, a seed company in the process of being purchased by Monsanto, the Terminator is a complex of genes that, theoretically, can be spliced into any crop plant, where it will cause every seed produced by that plant to be sterile. Once the Terminator becomes the industry standard, control over the genetics of crop plants will complete its move from the farmer's field to the seed company -- to which the farmer will have no choice but to return year after year. The Terminator will allow companies like Monsanto to privatize one of the last great commons in nature -- the genetics of the crop plants that civilization has developed over the past 10,000 years.

At lunch on his farm in Idaho, I had asked Steve Young what he thought about all this, especially about the contract Monsanto made him sign. I wondered how the American farmer, the putative heir to a long tradition of agrarian independence, was adjusting to the idea of field men snooping around his farm, and patented seed he couldn't replant. Young said he had made his peace with corporate agriculture, and with biotechnology in particular: ''It's here to stay. It's necessary if we're going to feed the world, and it's going to take us forward.''

Then I asked him if he saw any downside to biotechnology, and he paused for what seemed a very long time. What he then said silenced the table. ''There is a cost,'' he said. ''It gives corporate America one more noose around my neck.''

Harvest

A few weeks after I returned home from Idaho, I dug my New Leafs, harvesting a gorgeous-looking pile of white spuds, including some real lunkers. The plants had performed brilliantly, though so had all my other potatoes. The beetle problem never got serious, probably because the diversity of species in my (otherwise organic) garden had attracted enough beneficial insects to keep the beetles in check. By the time I harvested my crop, the question of eating the New Leafs was moot. Whatever I thought about the soundness of the process that had declared these potatoes safe didn't matter. Not just because I'd already had a few bites of New Leaf potato salad at the Youngs but also because Monsanto and the F.D.A. and the E.P.A. had long ago taken the decision of whether or not to eat a biotech potato out of my -- out of all of our -- hands. Chances are, I've eaten New Leafs already, at McDonald's or in a bag of Frito-Lay chips, though without a label there can be no way of knowing for sure.

So if I've probably eaten New Leafs already, why was it that I kept putting off eating mine? Maybe because it was August, and there were so many more-interesting fresh potatoes around -- fingerlings with dense, luscious flesh, Yukon Golds that tasted as though they had been pre-buttered -- that the idea of cooking with a bland commercial variety like the Superior seemed beside the point.

There was this, too: I had called Margaret Mellon at the Union of Concerned Scientists to ask her advice. Mellon is a molecular biologist and lawyer and a leading critic of biotech agriculture. She couldn't offer any hard scientific evidence that my New Leafs were unsafe, though she emphasized how little we know about the effects of Bt in the human diet. ''That research simply hasn't been done,'' she said.

I pressed. Is there any reason I shouldn't eat these spuds?

''Let me turn that around. Why would you want to?''

It was a good question. So for a while I kept my New Leafs in a bag on the porch. Then I took the bag with me on vacation, thinking maybe I'd sample them there, but the bag came home untouched.

The bag sat on my porch till the other day, when I was invited to an end-of-summer potluck supper at the town beach. Perfect. I signed up to make a potato salad. I brought the bag into the kitchen and set a pot of water on the stove. But before it boiled I was stricken by this thought: I'd have to tell people at the picnic what they were eating. I'm sure (well, almost sure) the potatoes are safe, but if the idea of eating biotech food without knowing it bothered me, how could I possibly ask my neighbors to? So I'd tell them about the New Leafs -- and then, no doubt, lug home a big bowl of untouched potato salad. For surely there would be other potato salads at the potluck and who, given the choice, was ever going to opt for the bowl with the biotech spuds?

So there they sit, a bag of biotech spuds on my porch. I'm sure they're absolutely fine. I pass the bag every day, thinking I really should try one, but I'm beginning to think that what I like best about these particular biotech potatoes -- what makes them different -- is that I have this choice. And until I know more, I choose not.
 

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Independent Report Slams The Benefits of GE Crops

NEW REPORT - Yields and profits down, agrochemical use up:
the great GM food gamble exposed

Seeds of Doubt: North American farmers' experiences of GM crops is
available from the Soil Association, price £12. tel: 0117 914 2400 or
www.soilassociation.org

UK report casts doubt on North American GM crops

LONDON, Sept 17 (Reuters) - Genetically modified crops in North America
have been an economic disaster, which has caused some farm groups there to call for a moratorium on GM wheat, the next proposed crop to be
altered, a report released on Tuesday said.

The study by the Soil Association, Britain's leading organic
organisation, estimated that gene-altered maize, soya and rapeseed may
have cost the U.S. economy $12 billion since 1999 in farm subsidies,
lower crop prices, loss of major export orders and product recalls.


Scientists have said that the advent of such crops could be the answer
to world hunger, but the report said claims of increased yields have not
been realised overall -- except for a small increase in some maize
yields.

The report said farmers are not achieving the higher profits promised by
the biotech companies as markets for GM food collapse, citing widespread GM contamination at all levels of the food and farming industry as the
source.

"Within a few years of the introduction of GM crops, almost the entire
$300 million annual US maize exports to the EU had disappeared, and the
US share of the soya market had decreased," the report said.

"The lost export trade as a result of GM crops is thought to have caused
a fall in farm prices and hence a need for increased government
subsidies, estimated at an extra $3-$5 billion annually,"
it added.

MORATORIUM

It found that severe problems with gene-spliced crops has led more than
200 groups representing farmers and the organic sector in North America
to call for a moratorium on the introduction of GM wheat.


For the last several years, leading biotech company Monsanto has
stressed the benefits its genetically modified Roundup Ready wheat can
bring to farmers.

The herbicide resistant strain, for which Monsanto is currently seeking
regulatory approval, could mean efficiencies and potentially higher
yields for farmers, according to the firm.

Public opinion in Europe is wary of gene-altered crops after a string of
food safety scares, including mad cow disease, and there is a three-year
de facto ban in place on approvals of new GM varieties.

Soil Association Director Peter Melchett said the report came as a
timely note of caution to Britain ahead of a decision due next year on
whether to commercialise GM crops following its three-year field test
programme.

"With UK agriculture still suffering a deep economic crisis, the
temptation to seize a new technology is great," he told the media at the
report's launch.

"GM technology was introduced to the USA when farmers were financially
vulnerable. The biotechnology industry's claims that their products
would bring benefits were widely accepted, but GM crops have now proved
to be a financial liability," he added.

Melchett said he hoped the report would result in a better informed
public debate, and a more independent, less pressurised decision about
the commercialization of GM crops in the UK.

Britain's government formally launched a public debate on the issue
earlier this year, but trust in biotech companies took a battering
recently with the disclosure of small impurities in field trials for
oilseed rape, which threatened to derail the government's field trial
programme on the environmental impact of such crops.

The blunder also prompted UK environment minister Michael Meacher to
break with the government's broadly GM-sympathetic government line,
saying that the country was being pressured by the U.S. to allow
commercial planting of gene-spliced crops.

"I do think it's right that there are people in the government who are
beginning to see that you cannot both promote organic farming and
promote GMO's at the same time," Melchett said.

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GM CLAIMS HIT BUFFERS
BBC Wildlife Magazine
Yields and profits down, agrochemical use up: the great GM food gamble exposed as decision time for the UK nears.

A new report is challenging the biotech industry line that GM crops will
benefit farmers. Seeds of Doubt, published by the Soil Association, says
that increased yields and profits and reduced agrochemical use have not
materialized for farmers in the US, one of only four countries where GM
crops are grown commercially.

The only independent research looking at the impact of genetic
engineering on yields has found that they actually decrease by around 6
per cent, while agrochemical use has increased as farmers apply greater
amounts of herbicide to crops that are resistant to it. Profits are
being eroded as market prices decrease, because the GM 'brand' has lost
its international market.

The Soil Association commissioned the report because of concerns about
the future of organic farming in the UK. It's now clear that there is no
place for GM technology in organic agriculture. When it was first being
discussed, ministers said they would ensure that organic farming was not
compromised by the introduction of GM crops. Now, the Government wants
to find out what levels of contamination are acceptable.

The lessons from North America are disturbing. Canada has lost its
entire organic oilseed rape industry to GM contamination
in a few, short years, and the Saskatchewan Organic Directorate has launched a lawsuit against the GM company responsible.

The report comes at a crucial time for the future of GM technology in
the UK. The Government is expected to decide in June 2003 whether to
push ahead with commercialisation, and though it has launched a public
debate on the issue, many believe that Tony Blair has already made up
his mind that it should go ahead.

The Soil Association is calling on ministers to be cautious. Patrick
Holden, the organisation's director, is unequivocal. "From the evidence
in this report, proceeding down that road would be utter folly," he
said.

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300 H and H

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The bigger the Farmer the more Monsanto will cater to them. With discounts of up to 20% on seed and chemicals. Volume discounting will make a few, new class of super sized farms a reality in the next generations life times. Welcome to the Walmartization of Agriculture.

Oh did I mention that the "big boys" get 10% more for theier crops cause they sell 50K bushels at a time. Mutiple machinery purchases net them big $$$$ discounts with JD and the others who provide the equiptment.

Bio tech isn't resoncible for farms getting bigger by itself. How ever it has physically made it many times easier for a farm to increase the amount of land an idividule can farm. It has in effect accelerated the change to mammoth sized farms more than anything in my life time....

There will come an end to the family farm at some point I fear. It will just slip away on the corperate ship..

Regards, Kirk
 

FrancSevin

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Without the benefit of Genetic engineering,there are two major plant crops will not be available to US consumers in the near future.

Potatoes
Bananas

Potatoes suffer from a new fungal blight that is spoilig them in the storage bins. You will seethe black rot frequently in you stor bought spuds.
http://www.allotment.org.uk/grow-your-own/vegetables/potatoes/blight

The banana industry is failing init's attempt to replace the current Cavendish banana breed we all like. Though not as big and flavorful as the "big Mike" of the thirties forties andfifties, it survived the worldwide blight that killed off that crop.

So far,no breeder has created a replacement for the cavendish banana we now enjoy.
http://makewealthhistory.org/2008/05/03/the-end-of-the-banana/

Whikle we have companies like Monsanto selling pesticieds that keep the potatoe blight under control,,for now, there is virtualy no hope for the Cavendish banana. Except genesplicing.

Corn is a crop tha cannot exist without the invention of man. So it is with potatoes, tomatoes and and Soy beans. It has been the success of man's intervention that has fed us in the modern world so well.

I read the other day that our manipulations of the wheat seed has created the world's obesity. That this change is is the reason for the existance of Celiac's disease. Bull Shit. Over eating from the bounty of our agricultural successes has created the problem. Celiac is not a new syndrome. It is newly recognized as a disease.

Why do so many have issues with modernity? Because they will not take responsibility for their actions.

Perhaps we should go back to the days of hunter gatherer. Yeah, those were the good times.
 

FrancSevin

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GOLD Site Supporter
The bigger the Farmer the more Monsanto will cater to them. With discounts of up to 20% on seed and chemicals. Volume discounting will make a few, new class of super sized farms a reality in the next generations life times. Welcome to the Walmartization of Agriculture.

Oh did I mention that the "big boys" get 10% more for theier crops cause they sell 50K bushels at a time. Mutiple machinery purchases net them big $$$$ discounts with JD and the others who provide the equiptment.

Bio tech isn't resoncible for farms getting bigger by itself. How ever it has physically made it many times easier for a farm to increase the amount of land an idividule can farm. It has in effect accelerated the change to mammoth sized farms more than anything in my life time....

There will come an end to the family farm at some point I fear. It will just slip away on the corperate ship..

Regards, Kirk

The family farm is always the excuse for the farm subsidies. Funny how the Corporate farms benefit somuch more than the little guy. Perhaps the little guy should have voted for somebody else when it would have mattered.

My mother's side of the family was tight with the Democratic party and Bess Truman was a family friend. On my dad's side of the family they were all Republicans. It made for interesting reunions.

Granddad H. (DEM) fought for Farm subsidies. Grandpa R(GOP) refused to participate. Bank wouldn't loan Grandpa R unless he did. He said, back in 1951, that it would be the death of the family farm. He was right.

My hat is off to anyone trying to runthe family farm as a legitimate enterprise. It ain't easy and the gubmint is not on your side. Good luck keeping it together.
 
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