something for my snowtrac to pull

roughwoods

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I needed something for my snowtrac to pull home so I got a 1404 imp. It needs some work but seems to run ok. I call it my pumpkin
 

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mtntopper

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I needed something for my snowtrac to pull home so I got a 1404 imp. It needs some work but seems to run ok. I call it my pumpkin

Be careful what you wish for!!! The Imp may pull your snowtrac home someday. :thumb: They are a great small cat and yours looks like it is in real good shape. You will strengthen your right arm shifting all of those gears ....:yum:
 

Melensdad

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I needed something for my snowtrac to pull home so I got a 1404 imp. It needs some work but seems to run ok. I call it my pumpkin
Larry, it looks like it is missing a steering wheel :17875:
 

Melensdad

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Pumkins dont have steering wheels!!YOU HAVE TO PULL THEM AROUND.
Larry you just did a great job of describing BigAl's Kristi :yum:

So in all seriousness, what are your intentions for "the Pumpkin" and its future? Looks like it has a nice cargo area on the back. Will it be used to haul building supplies, bulky equipment, etc out to your remote cabin?
 

roughwoods

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Well I plan on pulling a drag with it and use it to haul fire wood ,supplies ect.
I am going to try to haul a small snow go with me just incase the pumpkin breaks down. I have ran imps before but I have never pulled big loads with one or worked one real hard,I have even got to pull one with my snow trac to get it started.So it will be fun to compare the two of them.I like the way the imps turn sharp on tight trails.Any way it should be fun!!!! Right now it has a real bad case of the clacken tracks!I dont know if there is a bearing going out or if one track is to lose or what,haven't had time to really look it over yet.Just so I can say that I pulled a snow trac with my imp,I could go pull Alaska 120s snow trac out of his wifes shop befor he gets his head skinned!!
 
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Snowcat Operations

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WELL as far as pulling a drag with an Imp I would not. The oc-4 clark rearend is great for a normally loaded Imp. The oc-4 would quickley deteriorate pulling anything with resistance. You want something like a super Imp with the oc-12 rear in it.
 

roughwoods

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What is a normal load for 1404 IMP? What is the diff between hauling a load and pulling a load? or is there any?IMPLESS in Alaska.
 

mtntopper

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Well I plan on pulling a drag with it and use it to haul fire wood ,supplies ect.

If you are going use a drag behind the Imp, I would strongly consider setting it up with ram steering. It will save a lot of steering/brake band wear, rear end problems and the Imp will manuver like it has power steering.

Below is a pic of a ram steer set-up where you actually turn the drag and cat via hydraulic cylinders mounted between your drag and snowcat.
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roughwoods

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That is a pretty neat looking set up.but a little to fancy for me,maybe I could put a Gee-pole stearing assist on it.??
 

mtntopper

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That is a pretty neat looking set up.but a little to fancy for me,maybe I could put a Gee-pole stearing assist on it.??

Okay you win, what is a Gee-pole stearing assist. Is it gee, I pulled the stick and I hope it goes that way.....:yum:
 

roughwoods

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Ya got it right!!!:applause: The old time dog mushers used a pole on the front of their freight sleds to help steer heavy loads.maybe that will work on a limp imp???:drink:
 

mtncrawler

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Weak spot will be the axles. The aux transmission allows alot of torque to the rear.
 

Snowcat Operations

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You would be much better off all around with a Thiokol 1202B with the oc-12. If you had both Imp and snowtrac hooked up to it in the rear pulling the other way the 1202 would walk away not even knowing something was behind it!
 

roughwoods

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If I had the money in my wallet to buy a 1202B with the oc12 and hooked it up behind my snow trac and imp then hooked my wife to it,she could walk the other way and not even know anything was behind her!!! Guess I'm stuck with the imp.What is a normal load for the 1404 imp?
 
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