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Snow Cat Serenade, 2026

Hey everyone...
It was a great pleasure, opportunity, time, chance, or whatever one will choose to call it...
Hopefully we all see each other (and others) another time!
Thanks @Pontoon Princess for getting us all together!

Few photos to share here as well as full resolution/full sized/full download should be done via the following link,
Feel free to use them as you choose, enjoy!
Panoramas are possible to print and enjoy viewing on a wall as well!

Take care,

p.s. video is in the editing stage... link will be posted at a later time

Great photos.
 
"The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat"

After getting to Cloud Cap I experienced the "Thrill of Victory".

1/4 mile from the parking lot on the way back , I experienced the "Agony of defeat"
The Right drive chain separated under load. It then appears to have wrapped it's self around the brake support bar (shiny bar in the photos) tore it loose from the mounts and wadded up at the bottom of the engine compartment. The brake calipers were then free to spin the left one was caught by the brake hose. The right one came around with enough force to cave in the muffler. I assume it was caught in the chain. The chain then dropped out the bottom of the compartment. Both brake supports were twisted to the point the calipers were bound on the disc.. After prying, unbolting, and hammering a bit we got the carnage clear enough to allow the cat to be towed. Had to do a fore and aft tow to keep it under control back to the parking lot. Once at the trailer I rigged a snatchblock on the front of the trailer to the cat and then under back to the Thundercat which then backed up neatly pulling my cat back on board.

examining the chain, it appears the masterlink failed. Probably the locking clip came out. Once I get caught up on ranch chores, the wife's projects I will tear into the cat and see what other damage there is. There is transmission oil on the trailer which does not give me a good feeling.
 

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"The thrill of victory and the agony of defeat"

After getting to Cloud Cap I experienced the "Thrill of Victory".

1/4 mile from the parking lot on the way back , I experienced the "Agony of defeat"
The Right drive chain separated under load. It then appears to have wrapped it's self around the brake support bar (shiny bar in the photos) tore it loose from the mounts and wadded up at the bottom of the engine compartment. The brake calipers were then free to spin the left one was caught by the brake hose. The right one came around with enough force to cave in the muffler. I assume it was caught in the chain. The chain then dropped out the bottom of the compartment. Both brake supports were twisted to the point the calipers were bound on the disc.. After prying, unbolting, and hammering a bit we got the carnage clear enough to allow the cat to be towed. Had to do a fore and aft tow to keep it under control back to the parking lot. Once at the trailer I rigged a snatchblock on the front of the trailer to the cat and then under back to the Thundercat which then backed up neatly pulling my cat back on board.

examining the chain, it appears the masterlink failed. Probably the locking clip came out. Once I get caught up on ranch chores, the wife's projects I will tear into the cat and see what other damage there is. There is transmission oil on the trailer which does not give me a good feeling.
you made it to the TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN, victory is yours!!!!!!!!
 
In light of Thundercat’s poor mechanical performance at HR 2026 I thought the Old Grouser Award should be rescinded, but Cider Tom refused to do so.

There were two failures within an hour or so, and both were dead-in-the-water failures, meaning until they were fixed - the machine was going nowhere. The first time the left front track’s de-icer wheel ate the two tapered roller bearings. The Gorilla was driving at the time, heard a noise saw the rear wheel was not running straight and stopped as soon as he could. But it was ugly. Super -fortunately another snow catter had a spare idler wheel, bearings, seals, and a spindle.

Repairs were made and it was back in operation. Then after stopping at the top by the Cloud Cap Inn, the engine wouldn’t start. Wouldn’t start, as-in the starter clicked and said “That’s it. That’s all you’re going to get from me”. Great. The Gorilla then removed the starter looked it over, reinstalled it and again; no-worky. He removed it a second time, disassembled the starter and found what looked like a needle bearing had jammed and wouldn’t allow the armature to rotate. He removed the obstruction, cleaned up the magnets a bit, and reassembled and reinstalled the starter. This time it worked, and the machine started. Whew!

That starter was installed during Project Dual. It's an AC Delco “Gold” remanufactured starter and it's still under warranty. Maybe we got 50 engine starts before it failed. Maybe.

The phrase "Many hands make light work" is apropos. Whenever a snowcat has a malfunction, other 'catters are eager to help, and it becomes part of the shared experience. That was the case with the De-Icer wheel bearing failures, as well as with the starter seizure, and I wasn't even there for that!

I’m going to back up a bit and talk about the failed de-icer wheel’s bearings.

Several years ago I had a conversation with Jeff Godard at Tucker and mentioned we had the carriers removed from the machine and were installing all new bearings and seals on the idler and damper wheels. Jeff suggested we remove all the spindles from the carrier, clean them up, coat them liberally with anti-seize, and reinstall them. Jeff made the point that replacing a spindle in the field when it was rusted/corroded/frozen in position was a downright miserable job, and we heeded his advice. I mentioned this in a forum thread and some folks thought it wasn’t necessary.

Okay, to each, his own, but we had the carriers removed, we had a bridge crane in Scott’s shop as well as a hydraulic press. It was never going to be easier…. Well those spindles were downright recalcitrant as far as removal. Serious hydraulic pressure from the press, heat from an acetylene torch and Gorilla power behind a sledge hammer were all required. It was a major chore, but we eventually got them all out. Now imagine being in the backcountry, in several feet of snow, lying on your side and trying to beat a rusted/corroded/frozen spindle out with the only hammer you had, and maybe a socket extension. Not a pleasant image, trust me.

So when the wheel bearings failed on Mt Hood they chewed up the spindle as well. Because we followed Jeff Godard’s suggestion, the damaged spindle came out with hand pressure. All that work… was worth it.

I think it's only fair that if you criticize, when the opportunity presents itself you must equally praise, and Jeff Godard's suggestions were very helpful. Great credit to Jeff, and by extension to Tucker, Inc for the benefit of Jeff's knowledge and experience. I mean that sincerely!
 
An FYI for non-local 2026 Hood River Serenade participants:

If you crossed the Hood River Bridge across the Columbia River to get to and from Mt Adams on day one, don’t forget to pay the tolls (plural).

Here’s a link: https://csc.portofhoodriver.com/paytoll

Partway down the page is the section you want:

Pay Tolls Before Invoice (within 14 days of crossing).

If you traveled across the Hood River - White Salmon Interstate Bridge within the last 14 days, you can avoid an Unpaid Toll Invoice and associated fees by paying for your tolls here.

A true story:

A few years ago I was in Denver, CO and there was a toll road (I think it was called something like EZ Pass). “No problem, we’ll send you a bill”.

Except, I never got a bill from the state, city, or tollway authority, and I forgot about it. Then, maybe a year later I get a letter from a law firm acting as a collections agent. The outrageous toll amount had morphed from something like 5 bucks to $70. Why could the law firm find me when the state couldn’t? Did the state, city, or tollway authority have proof that they even tried? No.

Total BS!

That was Colorado... and I STRONGLY suspect Oregon is no different!
 
In light of Thundercat’s poor mechanical performance at HR 2026 I thought the Old Grouser Award should be rescinded, but Cider Tom refused to do so.

There were two failures within an hour or so, and both were dead-in-the-water failures, meaning until they were fixed - the machine was going nowhere. The first time the left front track’s de-icer wheel ate the two tapered roller bearings. The Gorilla was driving at the time, heard a noise saw the rear wheel was not running straight and stopped as soon as he could. But it was ugly. Super -fortunately another snow catter had a spare idler wheel, bearings, seals, and a spindle.

Repairs were made and it was back in operation. Then after stopping at the top by the Cloud Cap Inn, the engine wouldn’t start. Wouldn’t start, as-in the starter clicked and said “That’s it. That’s all you’re going to get from me”. Great. The Gorilla then removed the starter looked it over, reinstalled it and again; no-worky. He removed it a second time, disassembled the starter and found what looked like a needle bearing had jammed and wouldn’t allow the armature to rotate. He removed the obstruction, cleaned up the magnets a bit, and reassembled and reinstalled the starter. This time it worked, and the machine started. Whew!

That starter was installed during Project Dual. It's an AC Delco “Gold” remanufactured starter and it's still under warranty. Maybe we got 50 engine starts before it failed. Maybe.

The phrase "Many hands make light work" is apropos. Whenever a snowcat has a malfunction, other 'catters are eager to help, and it becomes part of the shared experience. That was the case with the De-Icer wheel bearing failures, as well as with the starter seizure, and I wasn't even there for that!

I’m going to back up a bit and talk about the failed de-icer wheel’s bearings.

Several years ago I had a conversation with Jeff Godard at Tucker and mentioned we had the carriers removed from the machine and were installing all new bearings and seals on the idler and damper wheels. Jeff suggested we remove all the spindles from the carrier, clean them up, coat them liberally with anti-seize, and reinstall them. Jeff made the point that replacing a spindle in the field when it was rusted/corroded/frozen in position was a downright miserable job, and we heeded his advice. I mentioned this in a forum thread and some folks thought it wasn’t necessary.

Okay, to each, his own, but we had the carriers removed, we had a bridge crane in Scott’s shop as well as a hydraulic press. It was never going to be easier…. Well those spindles were downright recalcitrant as far as removal. Serious hydraulic pressure from the press, heat from an acetylene torch and Gorilla power behind a sledge hammer were all required. It was a major chore, but we eventually got them all out. Now imagine being in the backcountry, in several feet of snow, lying on your side and trying to beat a rusted/corroded/frozen spindle out with the only hammer you had, and maybe a socket extension. Not a pleasant image, trust me.

So when the wheel bearings failed on Mt Hood they chewed up the spindle as well. Because we followed Jeff Godard’s suggestion, the damaged spindle came out with hand pressure. All that work… was worth it.

I think it's only fair that if you criticize, when the opportunity presents itself you must equally praise, and Jeff Godard's suggestions were very helpful. Great credit to Jeff, and by extension to Tucker, Inc for the benefit of Jeff's knowledge and experience. I mean that sincerely!
One of those thousand word pictures of people pitching in.
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What with all the great photos and videos from experts, all I can really add are some smiles. But we had plenty of that.
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IDK maybe that old deck has to much character to be replacing it. Unlike the old roof which was way past character.

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Thanks again PP for all your effort to put this on. 🙂
 
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My Tucker was the one with the hood up all the time ;(
Some cool work to doo!
By the end Cory was almost the first one with a cool snowball for the brand new aluminum 4 core radiator.
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I struggled with heat on a new to me snow trac. the sickening part for me was that I actually made the extra steps to get all the OEM tin work in place to guarantee the ( 5 - 7 P's ) were covered at the clowder. Long story short. I was lean. I fattened up a jet and temps came down massively . I was a snow ball installer on day one and parts of day two.
 
I struggled with heat on a new to me snow trac. the sickening part for me was that I actually made the extra steps to get all the OEM tin work in place to guarantee the ( 5 - 7 P's ) were covered at the clowder. Long story short. I was lean. I fattened up a jet and temps came down massively . I was a snow ball installer on day one and parts of day two.
This 360 has the Holley Sniper kit so the A/F stay close to target at all elevations and throttle settings. Target is something like 12.8 to 13.6
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This 360 has the Holley Sniper kit so the A/F stay close to target at all elevations and throttle settings. Target is something like 12.8 to 13.6 View attachment 203269View attachment 203270once is is off the warm up.

I'm undecided - either upgrade to TBI (like the Sniper setup) on my 1642 Carb 360Chry or diesel swap it... High elevation performance is what of the concern, diesel turbo has been great on the previous swap I did on 1544, was happy with its performance and MPGs (+3mpg average) while the 360 now - I get +1mpg average...

I think diesel is the route I'll take in near future...
 
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