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Rudy Giulianis apt searched by Feds

Lenny

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Really??? How about Bill, Hillary and the list goes on.....
 

Lenny

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Oh my... The famous "but what about" defense. If you want to talk about the Clinton's, start a new post.
My point is that the feds are conducting a witch hunt because they haven't investigated much more serious things. Are you really a crak ho?
 

FrancSevin

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Wait a minute. After 9/11 her was the entire USA country's Mayor and now he is an enemy of the state?

All because he was Trump's lawyer?

Seriously, what has happened to our nation?

And yes why are Hilary and Bill Clinton not in trouble for how their charity is making them rich, and some of their friends, ?

That is not a "But what about" defense of Rudy Julianni. But a real, and damn serious, question having been asked and unanswered for the last 10-15 years.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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My point is that the feds are conducting a witch hunt because they haven't investigated much more serious things. Are you really a crak ho?
What your suggesting is that Rudy is above reproach, therefore, this must be a witch Hunt. Yet Rudy has made so many claims, while producing so little evidence of merit, that logic dictates there's a good chance he's as dirty as the bottom of my shoe. In order for the FBI to aquire a search warrant, they have to have extremely viable and damning evidence. Otherwise, they wouldn't be able to get a judge to sign the warrant. ..... Now..... You can claim that there's a vast conspiracy involving the FBI, the judicial system and everyone involved in the string of evidence against Rudy. But the likelihood of that is extremely small. ..... But I get it.... Since Donald... Republicans have really become one with the whining and whinging and the anger and the bullying....and of course.... The conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theories that conveniently explain away every illegal action and dirty secret surrounding them.
 

Lenny

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What your suggesting is that Rudy is above reproach, therefore, this must be a witch Hunt. Yet Rudy has made so many claims, while producing so little evidence of merit, that logic dictates there's a good chance he's as dirty as the bottom of my shoe.
I didn't say that. Quit trying to put words in my mouth. The point is that the government is selective about who they go after. Selling uranium and missile guidance systems to the Chi-Coms is a lot worse that anything Rudi did.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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I didn't say that. Quit trying to put words in my mouth. The point is that the government is selective about who they go after. Selling uranium and missile guidance systems to the Chi-Coms is a lot worse that anything Rudi did.
Why can't you Republicans stay on topic? Your ALWAY pulling out the " but what about" defense. We weren't talking about missile guidance systems. We're talking about Rudy. .... Focus. And yes, the government is selective about who they go after.... They usually select people who have broken the law.... Like, apperantly, Rudy.
 

FrancSevin

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Why can't you Republicans stay on topic? Your ALWAY pulling out the " but what about" defense. We weren't talking about missile guidance systems. We're talking about Rudy. .... Focus. And yes, the government is selective about who they go after.... They usually select people who have broken the law.... Like, apperantly, Rudy.
In a "nation of laws" where "equal justice" is queen the "what about " isn't a defense of the accused but of the system that does not apply the law of the land with equality.

lso, this is not a "Republican/Democrat issue. Both sides should be concerned about equal Justice. You are calling out Republicans. What about the others? Your slip is showing.

Jus' sayin'

BTW, I'm not a Republican but a Constitutional Conservative. Big difference. Huge actually.
 

Lenny

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Why can't you Republicans stay on topic? Your ALWAY pulling out the " but what about" defense. We weren't talking about missile guidance systems. We're talking about Rudy. .... Focus. And yes, the government is selective about who they go after.... They usually select people who have broken the law.... Like, apperantly, Rudy.
I'd rather discuss things with normal people rather than argue with liberals.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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I'd rather discuss things with normal people rather than argue with liberals.
It must be horrible for you when confronted by literate, knowledgeable, educated folk, huh...... not to worry though...... There's plenty of folks here that you can feel comfortable conversing with.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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In a "nation of laws" where "equal justice" is queen the "what about " isn't a defense of the accused but of the system that does not apply the law of the land with equality.

lso, this is not a "Republican/Democrat issue. Both sides should be concerned about equal Justice. You are calling out Republicans. What about the others? Your slip is showing.

Jus' sayin'

BTW, I'm not a Republican but a Constitutional Conservative. Big difference. Huge actually.
Touche'.... You are correct that injustices happen all the time.... and yes, they are bipartisan. But my personal opinion of Rudy is he's dirty.... First, he's a lawyer. That said, I've also seen him spread massive amounts of disinformation without viable evidence with merit to support it. IMHO, it's just catching up with him.
 

Lenny

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It must be horrible for you when confronted by literate, knowledgeable, educated folk, huh...... not to worry though...... There's plenty of folks here that you can feel comfortable conversing with.
Your name mirrors your comments.
 

pirate_girl

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Making fun of people's monikers is the last bastion of the Ill informed. ................To put it in terms you'll understand... You've got nothing of value to add, so you make fun of my screen name...... It's pathetic and infantile.
I think you chose your username wisely.
You are a force to be reckoned with, you've proven your knowledge and quick ability to post while standing up for yourself.
I like that.
You see, that's what I feel this forum needs.
I won't call you Crak or Ho, but I will call you Barbie.
You're a smart lady.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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Wait a minute. After 9/11 her was the entire USA country's Mayor and now he is an enemy of the state?

All because he was Trump's lawyer?

Seriously, what has happened to our nation?

And yes why are Hilary and Bill Clinton not in trouble for how their charity is making them rich, and some of their friends, ?

That is not a "But what about" defense of Rudy Julianni. But a real, and damn serious, question having been asked and unanswered for the last 10-15 years.
If your so concerned about Bill and Hillery's charity, then start a post entitled "Why isn't Billery in trouble about their charity". That's much more logical than you coming here and hijacking this thread. .... Ohh....I know.... Just entitle your post "But what about Billery"..... Classic
 

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If your so concerned about Bill and Hillery's charity, then start a post entitled "Why isn't Billery in trouble about their charity". That's much more logical than you coming here and hijacking this thread. .... Ohh....I know.... Just entitle your post "But what about Billery"..... Classic
I think what Franc is saying is there is a clear bias in reporting and anything to do with the justice system right now. Example: Andrew McCabe not charged in lying to the FBI and Carter Page is charged in a coerced entrapment sting. Hunter Biden has child porn on his lap top and is running around free. Its examples like that which make people believe things are not fair.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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I think what Franc is saying is there is a clear bias in reporting and anything to do with the justice system right now. Example: Andrew McCabe not charged in lying to the FBI and Carter Page is charged in a coerced entrapment sting. Hunter Biden has child porn on his lap top and is running around free. Its examples like that which make people believe things are not fair.
I see it as Republicans blaming every problem they have on somebody else. For example..... To a Republican, it's never Rudy's fault or Donald's fault.... Oh no.... It's the fault of the "fake news" or some massive conspiracy which involves the FBI, The Dept. of Justice, multiple federal judges Nationwide, the SCOTUS, the CIA, multiple attorney's general Nationwide, George Soros, Bill Gates, Barry Obama, the entire World Wide media, Secretary's of state, multiple bi-partisan election officials Nationwide, etc...... I mean.... Apperantly nothing is ever a Republicans fault....oh no.......it's all part of a massive conspiracy that dwarfs any other conspiracy in the history of man...... IMHO..... It's simply not feasible. .... So when I hear Donald or Rudy or whoever once again attempting to deflect blame away from themselves with more conspiracy claims...... I see it as nonsense.
 

m1west

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I see it as Republicans blaming every problem they have on somebody else. For example..... To a Republican, it's never Rudy's fault or Donald's fault.... Oh no.... It's the fault of the "fake news" or some massive conspiracy which involves the FBI, The Dept. of Justice, multiple federal judges Nationwide, the SCOTUS, the CIA, multiple attorney's general Nationwide, George Soros, Bill Gates, Barry Obama, the entire World Wide media, Secretary's of state, multiple bi-partisan election officials Nationwide, etc...... I mean.... Apperantly nothing is ever a Republicans fault....oh no.......it's all part of a massive conspiracy that dwarfs any other conspiracy in the history of man...... IMHO..... It's simply not feasible. .... So when I hear Donald or Rudy or whoever once again attempting to deflect blame away from themselves with more conspiracy claims...... I see it as nonsense.
I want to ask you an honest question, can you give me an honest answer?
 

m1west

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(Sigh) . Ask away..
Ok, everyone knows when the left and the corporate media attack Donald Trump, that he is just the figurehead of the attack on middle America. Would you agree or dis agree?
Do you think The corporate media treats Joe Biden the same way as Donald Trump.
Do you think that the justice department treats conservatives the same as liberals.
Do you believe there are conservative as well as liberal judges.
Do you believe in the bill of rights as written.
Answer these and I will answer some from you.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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Ok, everyone knows when the left and the corporate media attack Donald Trump, that he is just the figurehead of the attack on middle America. Would you agree or dis agree?
Do you think The corporate media treats Joe Biden the same way as Donald Trump.
Do you think that the justice department treats conservatives the same as liberals.
Do you believe there are conservative as well as liberal judges.
Do you believe in the bill of rights as written.
Answer these and I will answer some from you.
I think the real question is, did Donald bring all this on himself. I think he did. Donald's arrogant, immoral, unethical, xenophobic, bigoted bully attitude rubs most intelligent, educated people the wrong way. Simply put, Donald says and does stupid shite, then gets upset when people call him on it.. I find him pathetic. ....... Yes..... There are conservative judges and liberal judges. And I believe in the bill of rights.
 

m1west

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I think the real question is, did Donald bring all this on himself. I think he did. Donald's arrogant, immoral, unethical, xenophobic, bigoted bully attitude rubs most intelligent, educated people the wrong way. Simply put, Donald says and does stupid shite, then gets upset when people call him on it.. I find him pathetic. ....... Yes..... There are conservative judges and liberal judges. And I believe in the bill of rights.
I gave you an opportunity to have an intelligent discussion, what you did is what you have accused others on this forum of doing. Deflecting to name calling and generalizations. From you answer you also believe that president Trump was not treated fairly but you are blaming him for it, when folks like senator Green were calling for his impeachment before he was inaugurated. Do you understand that when you attack Trump with your laundry list of name calling you are also attacking and insulting 50% of the people in the US. I for one can not debate or discuss anything with anyone when there primary goal is to just piss people off.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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I gave you an opportunity to have an intelligent discussion, what you did is what you have accused others on this forum of doing. Deflecting to name calling and generalizations. From you answer you also believe that president Trump was not treated fairly but you are blaming him for it, when folks like senator Green were calling for his impeachment before he was inaugurated. Do you understand that when you attack Trump with your laundry list of name calling you are also attacking and insulting 50% of the people in the US. I for one can not debate or discuss anything with anyone when there primary goal is to just piss people off.
You wanted an honest answer. I gave you mine. Funny how you take an honest response about Donald as a personal effrontery. That was not my intent, though I can tell you are going to demand it was. I never Incenuated Donald was treated unfairly. What I said was he brought it on himself by his own actions. Why do Donald's supporters get so upset when people point out his faults? How was Donald ever to grow if his weaknesses are ignored and those that point them out vilified? Donald's sycophants constantly making excuses for his actions doesn't help Donald. It just emboldens him to continue on with his mistakes. You look at Donald and see our savior. I look at him and see our fall.
 
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m1west

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You wanted an honest answer. I gave you mine. Funny how you take an honest response about Donald as a personal effrontery. That was not my intent, though I can tell you are going to demand it was. I never Incenuated Donald was treated unfairly. What I said was he brought it on himself by his own actions. Why do Donald's supporters get so upset when people point out his faults? How was Donald ever to grow if his weaknesses are ignored and those that point them out vilified? Donald's sycophants constantly making excuses for his actions doesn't help Donald. It just emboldens him to continue on with his mistakes. You look at Donald and see our savior. I look at him and see our fall.
You deflected and never answered the question, like a politician. But I will answer one of yours anyway. What I'm not sure you or any liberal will ever understand is that conservatives follow Trump because he expresses our values. Not the other way around, so when you are insulting Trump you are insulting us. I don't know about you, but when I'm insulted I get pissed off.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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You deflected and never answered the question, like a politician. But I will answer one of yours anyway. What I'm not sure you or any liberal will ever understand is that conservatives follow Trump because he expresses our values. Not the other way around, so when you are insulting Trump you are insulting us. I don't know about you, but when I'm insulted I get pissed off.
Donald expresses your values? Let's examine Donald's "values", shall we? Here's a video of your president verbally denigrating anyone who disagrees with him. Calling people losers and acting like an obstinate bully:.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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You deflected and never answered the question, like a politician. But I will answer one of yours anyway. What I'm not sure you or any liberal will ever understand is that conservatives follow Trump because he expresses our values. Not the other way around, so when you are insulting Trump you are insulting us. I don't know about you, but when I'm insulted I get pissed off.
Here's another telling video of your president, with whom you allegedly share values with....... mocking a disabled reporter. Remember.... You share this guy's "values":.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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You deflected and never answered the question, like a politician. But I will answer one of yours anyway. What I'm not sure you or any liberal will ever understand is that conservatives follow Trump because he expresses our values. Not the other way around, so when you are insulting Trump you are insulting us. I don't know about you, but when I'm insulted I get pissed off.
Here's your xenophobic president claiming Mexicans are rapist and implying that the Mexican government deliberately sends us their worst. And don't forget, this is the guy you model your values with:.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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You deflected and never answered the question, like a politician. But I will answer one of yours anyway. What I'm not sure you or any liberal will ever understand is that conservatives follow Trump because he expresses our values. Not the other way around, so when you are insulting Trump you are insulting us. I don't know about you, but when I'm insulted I get pissed off.
So, here's the guy you share values with, saying McCain is only a war hero because he was captured, but he prefers heros that weren't captured. I find this especially egregious because Donald never served. The guy you share values with doesn't know when to shut his mouth. Shall I continue? The evidence that demonstrates my appraisal of Donald is viable, is all over the web.
 
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