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m1west

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So, here's the guy you share values with, saying McCain is only a war hero because he was captured, but he prefers heros that weren't captured. I find this especially egregious because Donald never served. The guy you share values with doesn't know when to shut his mouth. Shall I continue? The evidence that demonstrates my appraisal of Donald is viable, is all over the web.
All of those are in response to attacks on himself. I don't know about you, but when I'm attacked, I fight back. No one is perfect. Thats not what is necessary. Doers are often a little messy. Do you think Communism is the right choice for America?
 

m1west

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So, here's the guy you share values with, saying McCain is only a war hero because he was captured, but he prefers heros that weren't captured. I find this especially egregious because Donald never served. The guy you share values with doesn't know when to shut his mouth. Shall I continue? The evidence that demonstrates my appraisal of Donald is viable, is all over the web.
What you are practicing is a form of racism, attacking the culture of others. You are no different than those you say you oppose.
 

jimbo

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If your so concerned about Bill and Hillery's charity, then start a post entitled "Why isn't Billery in trouble about their charity". That's much more logical than you coming here and hijacking this thread. .... Ohh....I know.... Just entitle your post "But what about Billery"..... Classic
I think you mean a thread, not post. But then a literate, knowledgeable, educated folk would know that.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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All of those are in response to attacks on himself. I don't know about you, but when I'm attacked, I fight back. No one is perfect. Thats not what is necessary. Doers are often a little messy. Do you think Communism is the right choice for America?
Your right, nobody's perfect. But he was the President of the United States. People look up to him. They emulate him. He should, IMHO, be held to a higher standard. Not throwing wild punches in the mud like some troglodyte. How can you sit and watch video after video of this guy and not see what a horrible person he is? It's so obvious.
 
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CrakHoBarbie

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What you are practicing is a form of racism, attacking the culture of others. You are no different than those you say you oppose.
Hold on...... "Culture"...... You are joking, right?..... There's nothing about Donald that's cultured. There's nothing about Donald that is characterized by refined taste, manners nor a good education. IMHO, our President should exhibit culture. He should be someone who I can be proud to have my kids emulate. Unlike Donald, who the kids weren't allowed to watch because you never know when something inappropriate would be popping out of his mouth. I may or may not be any better than those I oppose. But I'm not the POTUS. The POTUS should be held to a higher standard.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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I think you mean a thread, not post. But then a literate, knowledgeable, educated folk would know that.
Actually, either is appropriate. But I will fix it just for you Jimbo:. If your so concerned about Bill and Hillery's charity, then post a thread entitled "Why isn't Billery in trouble about their charity". That's much more logical than you coming here and hijacking this thread. .... Ohh....I know.... Just entitle your thread "But what about Billery"..... Classic.
 
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CrakHoBarbie

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Do you think Communism is the right choice for America?
Where do Republicans get the idea that democrats are communists? Who advocates for Communism? FDR initiated Social Security. Which is a partially Socialistic program. Do you advocate the dismantling of Social Security? Where are these communists of which you speak of?
 

jimbo

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Actually, either is appropriate. But I will fix it just for you Jimbo:. If your so concerned about Bill and Hillery's charity, then post a thread entitled "Why isn't Billery in trouble about their charity". That's much more logical than you coming here and hijacking this thread. .... Ohh....I know.... Just entitle your thread "But what about Billery"..... Classic.

I quoted your post, I have no idea what you're babbling on about now.

You didn't quote mine.
 

m1west

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Your right, nobody's perfect. But he was the President of the United States. People look up to him. They emulate him. He should, IMHO, be held to a higher standard. Not throwing wild punches in the mud like some troglodyte. How can you sit and watch video after video of this guy and not see what a horrible person he is? It's so obvious.
Do you really want to digress into stupid things said by politicians, I think uncle Joe would be the poster boy for that, ( if you don't vote for me you aint black) that was a classy line for sure. I look to results. if you want to admit it or not everything from the economy on down was much better under Trump.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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Do you really want to digress into stupid things said by politicians, I think uncle Joe would be the poster boy for that, ( if you don't vote for me you aint black) that was a classy line for sure. I look to results. if you want to admit it or not everything from the economy on down was much better under Trump.
If you really want to start down this road going over every problematic policy of Donald's, we certainly can. But it's pointless. I've been down this road many, many times before with trump sycophants. No matter how egregious his actions. No matter how hard the policy failure. He can do no wrong in your eyes. We can go there if you like, but it's pointless.
 

Roofgardener

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Here's another telling video of your president, with whom you allegedly share values with....... mocking a disabled reporter. Remember.... You share this guy's "values":.
Sorry CrakHoBarbie, but I'm going to have to call you out on that one.

Trump uses the 'waving arms around' act on MULTIPLE occasions to indicate that his 'opponent' is confused. He was using this technique to mock the IDEAS that the reporter had proposed, and NOT mocking the reporters physical disability.

This has been discussed and illustrated at great length in the media. (other than CNN, the NYT and WaPo, inevitably).
 

Roofgardener

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Here's your xenophobic president claiming Mexicans are rapist and implying that the Mexican government deliberately sends us their worst. And don't forget, this is the guy you model your values with:.
He does NOT claim that all mexicans are rapists, nor does he state that the Mexican Government deliberately sends their worst.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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Sorry CrakHoBarbie, but I'm going to have to call you out on that one.

Trump uses the 'waving arms around' act on MULTIPLE occasions to indicate that his 'opponent' is confused. He was using this technique to mock the IDEAS that the reporter had proposed, and NOT mocking the reporters physical disability.

This has been discussed and illustrated at great length in the media. (other than CNN, the NYT and WaPo, inevitably).
You can't explain this away. Donald was most assuredly mocking that reporters fisability. But, in fairness, please cite your reference showing trump waving his arms in said fashion where he's not mocking someone.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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He does NOT claim that all mexicans are rapists, nor does he state that the Mexican Government deliberately sends their worst.
Oh my.... He did say Mexicans are rapists. You're the one who added "all". Then he went on and said, and I quote: "when Mexico sends it's people, their not sending their best"... Which implies that the Mexican gov is sending bad people here. It's a ludicrous statement, yet you trump sycophants jump up and defend his absurd statements like he's your child. Don't you get embarrassed? Here's the problem as I see it. Words have meaning. But Donald is either so disconnected or so ignorant that he doesn't realize the implications of the things he says. And, apperantly, his sycophants are just like him because they don't understand the implications if the things he says either. It makes it frustrating trying to get through to folks who don't seem to understand simple English. https://time.com/4473972/donald-trump-mexico-meeting-insult/
 
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m1west

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If you really want to start down this road going over every problematic policy of Donald's, we certainly can. But it's pointless. I've been down this road many, many times before with trump sycophants. No matter how egregious his actions. No matter how hard the policy failure. He can do no wrong in your eyes. We can go there if you like, but it's pointless.
You are too far gone to discuss anything with. Over and out I am done with you.
 

Roofgardener

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Oh my.... He did say Mexicans are rapists. You're the one who added "all". Then he went on and said, and I quote: "when Mexico sends it's people, their not sending their best"... Which implies that the Mexican gov is sending bad people here. It's a ludicrous statement, yet you trump sycophants jump up and defend his absurd statements like he's your child. Don't you get embarrassed? Here's the problem as I see it. Words have meaning. But Donald is either so disconnected or so ignorant that he doesn't realize the implications of the things he says. And, apperantly, his sycophants are just like him because they don't understand the implications if the things he says either. It makes it frustrating trying to get through to folks who don't seem to understand simple English. https://time.com/4473972/donald-trump-mexico-meeting-insult/
One of Trumps problems has always been that he uses language in a different way to most politicians.

Most politicians have decades of training - starting at university - in careful use of language. Every statement they utter is first analysed for future impact and implications before they say it. The media are trained to parse politicians' statements with this in mind.

Trump, on the other hand, uses language like you and I use it. And the media either do not understand this, or at least, pretend they don't understand it for the purposes of their editorials.

Some Mexicans ARE rapists. Just look at their reported rape crime rate. And when Trump says '..Mexico sends its people..', he is NOT referring to their government. Most (though not ALL) of Trumps statements are actually correct, when you actually take the time to look at them.

As for Rudy Giulianis .. I think he IS being victimised by the DoJ. However - on the other hand - Giulianis has a track record of making false statements.
 

CrakHoBarbie

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One of Trumps problems has always been that he uses language in a different way to most politicians.

Most politicians have decades of training - starting at university - in careful use of language. Every statement they utter is first analysed for future impact and implications before they say it. The media are trained to parse politicians' statements with this in mind.

Trump, on the other hand, uses language like you and I use it. And the media either do not understand this, or at least, pretend they don't understand it for the purposes of their editorials.

Some Mexicans ARE rapists. Just look at their reported rape crime rate. And when Trump says '..Mexico sends its people..', he is NOT referring to their government. Most (though not ALL) of Trumps statements are actually correct, when you actually take the time to look at them.

As for Rudy Giulianis .. I think he IS being victimised by the DoJ. However - on the other hand - Giulianis has a track record of making false statements.
As I said before, words have meaning. Apparently, your one of Donald's supporters who, like Donald, doesn't understand the implications of the things he says. Either that or you've just chosen to make excuses for, and ignore, the problematic way he speaks and the arrogant, egotistical, verbally denigrating way he communicates....... Donald is a diplomat with no skills in diplomacy. You like that about him. I find it untenable.
 

Roofgardener

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As I said before, words have meaning. Apparently, your one of Donald's supporters who, like Donald, doesn't understand the implications of the things he says. Either that or you've just chosen to make excuses for, and ignore, the problematic way he speaks and the arrogant, egotistical, verbally denigrating way he communicates....... Donald is a diplomat with no skills in diplomacy. You like that about him. I find it untenable.
I think that SOME American's liked it because he spoke his mind. And lets face it... he tried to fulfil all his campaign promises.

Anyway, we've somewhat drifted off the topic ?
 

Roofgardener

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You can't explain this away. Donald was most assuredly mocking that reporters fisability. But, in fairness, please cite your reference showing trump waving his arms in said fashion where he's not mocking someone.
He is absolutely NOT mocking a reporters disability.
Quite apart from anything else, the reporters disability means that he struggles to move his arms. Why, then, would Trump 'mock' him by flailing his arms around ? The whole thing makes no SENSE - until you realise that this is a meme Trump has played on multiple occasions to indicate exasperation or confusion in his opponent. It is NOTHING to do with mocking a disability.


Oh damn.. I've just realised.. I've wandered off topic again :(
 

CrakHoBarbie

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He is absolutely NOT mocking a reporters disability.
Quite apart from anything else, the reporters disability means that he struggles to move his arms. Why, then, would Trump 'mock' him by flailing his arms around ? The whole thing makes no SENSE - until you realise that this is a meme Trump has played on multiple occasions to indicate exasperation or confusion in his opponent. It is NOTHING to do with mocking a disability.


Oh damn.. I've just realised.. I've wandered off topic again :(
What Donald did was the very definition of mocking. Stop making excuses for your moronic one term wonder.
 
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