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JEV

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Yesterday was another great morning working QRP 5 watts on 10m.



RZ3EC Russia
IT9PQJ Sicily
9A9A Croatia
YO4RIU Romania
OM3SEM Slovak Republic
 

ki0ho

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Hang in there Squerly...it will come.....I passed the 20 word code test...back in the day!!!and I hated the very sound !!! but stayed with it and passed....once I did I have never used cw again!!!!@ dont know why but the sound of cw would piss me off!!!! but when all else fails...the simpelest of equipment can be used to comunicate with cw!!! again ..hang in there it will come!!!:smile:
 

JEV

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Hang in there Squerly...it will come.....I passed the 20 word code test...back in the day!!!and I hated the very sound !!! but stayed with it and passed....once I did I have never used cw again!!!!@ dont know why but the sound of cw would piss me off!!!! but when all else fails...the simpelest of equipment can be used to comunicate with cw!!! again ..hang in there it will come!!!:smile:
I have had a few women in my life who triggered the same response from me when they spoke. Like nails on a chalkboard. :doh::doh:

Squerly has it made, as there is no code requirement. Just get down the questions and take the test. He'll stand a good chance of passing Tech & General at the same session. Just takes a little time to study (easier said than done.)
 

ki0ho

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Squerly...try not to just memorise the questions and answers....try to understand the therry behind them....it helps when the questions are worded different than in the study books....

another method ...a truck driver I knew had the audio tapes of all the posiable questions and the correct answers........said he listened to them over and over. while on the road.and when he took the test for extra he said he would read the question and the answer would jump out at him......I guess if a person heard the question and then only the correct answer..and not any of the other possable answers it might work...he passed with a good grade so I guess it worked for him...the reason I know is I was on the team grading the tests that day.......at that time I was a ARRL..VE... stick with it and you will get it....and then you will wonder what all the fuss was about!!!:smile:
 

Snowtrac Nome

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I wouldn't know, still studying... :(
my oldest boy took the test at 11 he took the qrz practice exams he studied 2 hours a night if a question stumped him he would google it once he could pass 10 exams in a row we took him up for a test he passed the first time. the general took a little bit more studying for me but it wasn't too hard.
 

ki0ho

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I noticed that the younger folks seem to have a higher number of sucesses in testing....could be their just smarter than us old farts!!! the thery was a shooin for me as I worked in a field that had a lot of electronics included....
my bugaboo was the damed BEEP BEEP BEEP!!!!!!!! many times we would work with the ET. folks and when we went into radio cent. I would put cotten in my ears and they would laugh at me. Oh yea...as to googaling the answers...........hard to do in the 70s!!!!!!!! the memory chips in those days were 3inch wide....18 inch rolls of tape!!!!!!!!!!several hundred feet long!!!!!!

Didnt have my ticket then..but one of the radiomen on board was a general class...and the rig we used was a mod 32 collins stood a little over 6 ft high...fed into a vertical back on the aft stack and a bed springs on the uper deck.....we had to crank the amps down to stay legal on the ham bands...
and get the ok from the skipper..but hitting the states from any where in the world was normaly not a problem.....boy would I like to have that final amp now!!!!!!!!!! it had 16 A-440s inthe final.......two of them would put out a full bucket no problem on the ham bands......I dont remember what the max was...but if the skipper wanted to talk to some one almost anywhere he could...I cant emagine what they have now days!!! But with the birds in the sky ect...that kind of power wouldnt even be needed!!

sorry got long winded again.....glad Doc dont charge b y the word!!!!!
Hang in there Squeral it will come.....
 

Snowtrac Nome

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first time I studied we still needed to know code I had a cassette tape I would listen to at night . I found that old code masters tape not too long ago or should I say my dog found it.
 

JEV

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I have a two-CD set for learning code. I used to keep it in the truck and practice on my leg as I drove. Got busy and didn't ever get back to it, but it's still on the shelf and something I'd like to learn...right after I get my Extra Class license. Hoping to do that at the December VE session for our club. It would be my 4th anniversary as a ham.

CW has a QRP reach that SSB just cannot touch. Both have their place, and I admire newer hams who take the time to learn the code, even at 5WPM if nothing else.
 

ki0ho

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One of the fellows that helped me over the hump with cw was an old rail road telegrafer we were going to a club meet one evening and he had a key st




raped to his leg....he was driving ..carring on a conversation with the other thrtee of us in the car.....while making contacts all over kansas..at about 25 words a min....he sudenly ask us to be silent for a bit.....all of a suden cw came out the speaker so fast it sounded to me like a steady scream!!!!...and he would answer back at what seemed like the same speed...after a few minets he signed off he said we just heard cw at about 85 or 90 words a min......I have no way of knowing for sure...as at my very best 25 was my absolut limit!!! and then not solid......there are some diferances between cw amd rail road code...with cw you listen to to long and short tones....with the rail road it is clicks and clacks and silence between them...also if I remember corectly a few of the letters are different.......
up to about 18 or 19 wpm you hear letters...at that point you have to more or less hear words......and at about 30+ you have to start hearing groupes of words and whole sentenses......Russell loved it...youn seldom would find him on phone....and in the car it was only cw....those two guys wou.d get on
a couple of times a week and push each others speed.....and the fun part was ...many times the band would be crowded.......late at night....they would come on and go for it....and when they would sign off...half the band would be total silence!!!!!! and some one would come on and ask if any one else just heard that!!!???? I lived about a mile or two from him so if I was close to him on the band I heard him...He had one of the pertyest fists I ever heard....he used what we used to call a BUG when he went above 30 wpm or so.....me I enjoyed talking to folks over the globe...for a while I played chess with a fellow in Japan....he was trying to teach me ....he died and I never went back to chess.......Russell liked hunting for old RR telegrafers in the 70s there wernt many of them left........he had worked as one for almost 40 years if I remember right........well shit!!!got windy again!!!

On of these days I plan on getting back on...the low bands...didgetal dont trip my triger and 2-meter ect.. is ok for some folks ...me I like the long low bands...rag chewing......Later....73s
 

JEV

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Never heard of Rail Road Code before. I'll ask some of our club members about it at the meeting on Wednesday, and see if any of them have encountered it. Can't imagine those words per minute, except coming from the lips of an angry woman. :whistling:
 

ki0ho

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as for the code system used on the RR...there were a few letters that were different...dont remember whitch ones but there were a few....as for the telegraph instead of a sound coming out of a speaker...it was a bar that snaped down onto the magnet pole....during the time I knew russell the RR had gone to radios but they still had the telegraph in operation..........and the old guys tending the stations would chit chat back and forth.....what usely happened was russell would transfer to a station...keep records of freight being on loaded there and when it was shone to be a loosing propersition...the RR would shut down the station and consolodate to a larger station...sush as Dodge city......a lot of the little townes out through kansas would pitch a bitch...at first about the closings..but the RR would just tell them to eather provide enough freight to make it a paying operation...or they would shut it down...and usely demolish the buildings unless some one bought them for what ever...the line through that part ov kansas was the old santa-fe.....russell did that until he was forced to retire....and live out his days in Hutchison Kansas..... He always told me that once you got to about 60 wpm it became like a conversation...and the only way to take it down was with a typewriter......(another thing young kids have not heard of) My typing in high school was about 40words a minet.......because the little girl sitting behind me would fly through her asignment and then do mine so I could hand something in to pass!!! He did say that the RR telegraph could not match the speeds of cw...it couldnt move fast enough......He took off the stright key and hooked up his bug and it wasent very long before the (claker...my word) would just humm....cause it couldnt move fast enough....He tryed to get me to learn how to read it...shit Iwasent the least bit interested.....I worked til I got the 5 words a min for my novice....at that itme any general could give the novice exam.....and then worked till I could pass the general..and for a long time I would not listen to cw....if it wasent phone it wasent ........then when I was in KC working we got a call fron Russells wife saying he had died...and in the conversation she said that russell had always hoped that I would go on to Extra......guess I felt guilty cause I boned up on cw think it was 13 wpm at the time and passed my advanced class......and then took the thery for extra...and the last night that the 20wpm test was given I wrote a perfect copy at 20 wpm....Not an easy feat for a guy that hated the very sound of it!!!!! At 2300 that night I called russell wife and told her I had made Extra...she died about 30 days later...and I have not listened to cw sence!!!!! asto the speeds those two ran at ...I ask him how they could posiably record it and he said you cant.....it is just like a conversation you hear it and it is words justy like talking...only you remember the jest of the contact...in your memory.....if it comes to copy..you have to slow down to a point that you can write. or type at.....I watched him once at a club contest and he would write in some soet of short handwhile copying a mess...and then type the message when the session was over....the guys would be sending from written copy so they could check him and he seemed never to miss anything...some of the old guys in the club were right good at 30 or 40 wpm...when it came his turn to send Russell eould get a gren on his face..and start sending copy at about 20 or so and slowly speed up and it would not be long they would throw the pensel down and give up......Dont remember him ever being bested...he would sit down at a typewriter and when the person would styart sending russell would close his eyes and type..he would bring a roll of paper from work...that way he didnt need to change sheets of paper....No body could send fast enough that he couldnt type perfect copy

Russell was my Elmer...and I supose Ill never forget the effort he put in helping me gain my tickets... guess I had beter end this and get some sleep..got to go vote for O-slimmy ebola ......NOT!!!!!!!!!
 

squerly

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Yeah, me too. Great stories.

I'm about a week away, maybe a little more. But very close anyhow...
 

ki0ho

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For those wanting to get into higher speed code...a pointer russell gave me is to not look at code written out on paper as dots and dashes......when you do that you train your mind to first visulize a letter and then convert back to the sound then as a letter....works fine up to about 15 wpm and then it slows you down....start from day one and only listen to the sound and conect it to a letter....as you progress it becomes more like hearing a conversation....not having that extra step in your mind....

as he told me...take the letter A.....when some one says A...what you actualy hear is Aee....but you dont first think Aee then back to just A....

and as we put words together...we hear the sounds ..but dont break them down as seperate letters but hear them as combined sounds forming words and sentenses or actualy....thoughts..

days after I wrote my 20wpm......I realized that even though I was a hopeless case of nerves...when the code started....it was like someone was just talking and it it went down as thoughts......

Have had other thoughts about that night........but they are mine....
 

squerly

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my oldest boy took the test at 11 he took the qrz practice exams he studied 2 hours a night if a question stumped him he would google it once he could pass 10 exams in a row we took him up for a test he passed the first time. the general took a little bit more studying for me but it wasn't too hard.

Hang in there Squerly...it will come.....

Squerly has it made, as there is no code requirement. Just get down the questions and take the test. He'll stand a good chance of passing Tech & General at the same session. Just takes a little time to study (easier said than done.)

Actually I've been taking the practice tests the last couple of days and I seldom score below the 90's and a good amount of the time I hit 100. If I don't get 100 it's because I get in a hurry and give an answer for an incorrectly read question.

I feel I would do well if I took the test today but I want to hit 100 consistently before I schedule. Given my capacity to go brain dead when the chips are down, I want to be as prepared as possible. Now that I know these guy's who are administering the test I want to score high and pass the first time. This is a small town and the last thing I want is to be remembered as the John Kennedy of the Technician's exam. :wink:
 

JEV

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You're doing exceedingly well on the Tech exam, so get into the General book and get that going. There are Tech questions on the General exam, so you'll recognize the questions and be able to breeze on by them. To be able to pass both exams at the same sitting will save you from being envious of the guys who talk about their contacts on bands that a Technician does not have privileges on.

Don't be concerned about getting 100% on the exam. Remember this...the guy who was last in his class at medical school is still called Doctor. Nobody on the air gives a shit if you aced the exam, just that you passed it and have license privilege to talk on the band.

You're doing great!
 

squerly

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Contacted the local Ham Club and they are going to order the Technician and General tests for me. Not sure how long that takes but I'm guessing a week or so? Still haven't gotten an antenna hooked up and haven't even gotten to listen to my new rig. Bummer!
 
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