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Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry

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Take a look at the enforcement, you are an imminent danger and a menace to society if you are not masked and not vaccinated. Punishable by fine, imprisonment or both. Signed by a bureaucrat. So something that is scientifically proven to not be effective is now mandatory or you go to jail.
Got to be a California thing! My state has no mask policies
 

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I would seriously doubt if Indiana would arrest anyone for not wearing a mask. There would be an armed rebellion.
But you likely didn't think Indiana republicans would fund critical race theory for your schools either. Liberal is a sickness and all the major cities in the US have it.
 

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But you likely didn't think Indiana republicans would fund critical race theory for your schools either. Liberal is a sickness and all the major cities in the US have it.
Actually I think they funded an education bill and were silly enough to leave open a path for SOME districts to insert C.R.T.

You will notice that our State Attorney General just issued a Parents Rights document and gives instructions on how parents can demand that bullshit like CRT can be yanked out of schools.

Indiana is also the state that had a Libertarian candidate for Governor run in November 2020 on the issue of NO MASKS, not only was he polling in 2nd place ahead of the Democrat, he was eating away at the support of the Republican governor. Ultimately pressure from the freedom lovers of the state caused the Governor to change his positions on lockdowns, masks, etc. Bear in mind we were a "mild" lockdown state and our "mask mandate" carried no criminal penalty but even those were too strict for many people!

Indiana is ranked as one of the "freest" states in the union based on individual, business, taxes, etc.
 

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Actually I think they funded an education bill and were silly enough to leave open a path for SOME districts to insert C.R.T.

You will notice that our State Attorney General just issued a Parents Rights document and gives instructions on how parents can demand that bullshit like CRT can be yanked out of schools.

Indiana is also the state that had a Libertarian candidate for Governor run in November 2020 on the issue of NO MASKS, not only was he polling in 2nd place ahead of the Democrat, he was eating away at the support of the Republican governor. Ultimately pressure from the freedom lovers of the state caused the Governor to change his positions on lockdowns, masks, etc. Bear in mind we were a "mild" lockdown state and our "mask mandate" carried no criminal penalty but even those were too strict for many people!

Indiana is ranked as one of the "freest" states in the union based on individual, business, taxes, etc.
My county here in Ca, took the same position with the Sheriff coming out in the local paper stating they wouldn't be enforcing any of Newsoms emergency powers orders last year, and they followed through. My point is the fight is everywhere state by state county by county
 

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My son's best friend just passed of COVID. That's three of his old Navy pals.

The last one had the Pitzer shots. Still got one of the variants. Delta. Died in a week.

All of them were in their forties.

One wonders,,,,,;
 

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My son's best friend just passed of COVID. That's three of his old Navy pals.

The last one had the Pitzer shots. Still got one of the variants. Delta. Died in a week.

All of them were in their forties.

One wonders,,,,,;
Thats the weird part with it, just no rime or reason in some cases, a 101 year old WW2 vet got it and beat it and someone 40 dies in a week. Condolences to your sons friend.
 

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Thats the weird part with it, just no rime or reason in some cases, a 101 year old WW2 vet got it and beat it and someone 40 dies in a week. Condolences to your sons friend.
The 101 year old WW2 vet probably had the original Covid 19.

The 40 year old had the Delta/Indian variant, which seems to be more effective at attacking younger people, so a younger person getting the original Covid 19 would have more than likely survived with just the sniffles, a cough or a bad headache but the new Indian variant is about 60% more infectious than the Alpha/UK variant, which was about 40% more infectious than the original variant. More infectious does not necessarily mean the variant is more deadly it just means it spreads easier, but for those who might be susceptible to Covid complications that is of little consolation.

The Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines seem to do a very good job of making the disease less severe and dramatically lower hospitalization rates/complication rates of those who are vaccinated and still get Covid, but there are obviously no guarantees.

Franc, sorry for your son's loss.
 

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Interesting evidence in favor of the generic drug Ivermectin. Not proof that it works but clearly strong support that it will likely help.

 

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Another update from Dr John Campbell.

He discusses the USA situation first, then Australia so if you are not concerned with AU you can tune out after the US portion.

Interesting notes about the Delta/Indian variant, it is showing its agressiveness in spread. Doubling every 2 weeks. Currently 26% of all cases in the US are the Delta/Indian variant. We can expect it to pass the 50% mark soon, and by the end of the month should be in the 90-95% range for all Covid cases.

Interesting that Dr Fauci actually said there is no need to change the mask policy for fully vaccinated people. He has been playing Dr Doom since before the election, pushing the goalposts around, etc. But he sees no reason to have fully vaccinated wear masks. This is contrary to guidance from Los Angeles and also from the WHO.


Indiana's governor has extended the emergency order until the end of July. I'm not sure what it actually applies to? I think masks are only mandated in government buildings?
 

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Story continues at the link:


Arthritis drugs tocilizumab and sarilumab reduce the risk of death and the need for ventilators among hospitalized Covid-19 patients, according to an analysis of nearly 11,000 patients published Tuesday.
The study appeared in the Journal of the American Medical Association and prompted the World Health Organization (WHO) to recommend the use of the medicines, known as IL-6 inhibitors, in addition to corticosteroids among patients with severe or critical Covid.
Manu Shankar-Hari, a professor at King's College London and lead author of the paper, told AFP that the research represented a "definitive piece of evidence" in favor of the drugs after earlier studies produced mixed results.
Among hospitalized Covid patients, administering one of the drugs in addition to corticosteroids reduced the risk of death by 17 percent, compared to the use of corticosteroids alone.
In patients who were not on ventilators, the risk of progressing to mechanical ventilation or death was reduced by 21 percent, compared to the use of corticosteroids alone.
 

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And more information about Vitamin D

All positive. So much evidence supports taking a daily vitamin D supplement, not just for Covid but for your health.

 

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I love this movie!


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Goldman Sachs investment analysis has some interesting insights into the recovery post-covid and how the more infectious (not not more lethal) Delta/Indian variant could disrupt a global recovery.


Delta Could Disrupt Emerging World's Post-COVID Recovery, Goldman Warns​

Now that the Delta variant has revived fears about renewed COVID outbreaks from the US to Europe to Asia, a team of analysts at Goldman Sachs has published its analysis of the risks posed by the mutated strain. The conclusion: since full vaccination remains effective at preventing infections, countries with low vaccination rates are the most vulnerable to another outbreak of the Delta variant.

As Goldman pointed out in an earlier note, the Delta variant represents a growing share of new COVID cases.



Accordingly, the Goldman team sees the risk of high hospitalizations and fatalities, followed by economy-damaging lockdowns, as rising most rapidly in Russia, South Africa, and Indonesia.



However, a more important takeaway involves the difficulty of achieving "COVID zero", something no country - not even China - has managed to achieve. If nothing else, the rise of the Delta variant likely increases the risk that COVID will become endemic like the flu.

Of course, most countries have already come to terms with the fact that "COVID zero" probably isn't a realistic public health goal.

But in Australia, Israel and China, it could complicate authorities efforts to move past the crisis (though Goldman expects a gradual H2 recovery in consumption as infections "stabilize" in Australia and continue to decline in China).

The most likely scenario implies a slightly slower global reopening, with the risk highest in countries with low vaccination rates. Still, "our global GDP growth forecasts of 6.6% in 2021 and 4.8% in 2022 therefore remain optimistic in absolute terms, although they are now closer to the consensus than at any point since April 2020."



The rest of Goldman's note consisted of a Q&A where analysts answered clients' questions:

Q. The Delta variant (first identified in India) is estimated to be 50-60% more transmissible than the Alpha variant (first identified in the UK). How effective are the Western vaccines against the Delta variant?

A. While the Delta variant weighs on the efficacy of vaccines (and especially single doses) at preventing infections (especially asymptomatic infections), Pfizer and AstraZeneca full vaccinations remain highly effective at protecting hospitalizations, and Moderna and J&J lab results look encouraging

A study from Public Health England estimates elevated Delta-specific efficacies at preventing hospitalizations of 94%/96% after one/two Pfizer doses and 71%/92% after one/two AstraZeneca doses. Public Health England estimates lower efficacies at preventing symptomatic disease after two doses for Pfizer of 88% and 60% for AstraZeneca. Similarly, a new study from Canada also estimates an 87% efficacy of full Pfizer vaccinations to prevent symptomatic disease. The symptomatic efficacy, however, is lower after one dose and estimated at one-third for both Pfizer and AstraZeneca in the English study, and 56%/72% for Pfizer/Moderna in the Canadian study

Yesterday, Israel’s Health Ministry reported a 64% effectiveness of the Pfizer vaccine in preventing any infections and a 93% effectiveness in preventing hospitalizations. The 64% estimate likely corresponds to the effectiveness to prevent both asymptomatic and symptomatic infections while the studies from England and Canada and clinical trials assess symptomatic infections. Taken at face value, these headline numbers suggest a reduced ability of the Pfizer vaccine to stop the transmission of Delta infections relative to previously dominant strains, although the “additional” infections are more likely to be asymptomatic.

Finally, in vitro studies from Moderna and Johnson & Johnson demonstrate their ability to neutralize the Delta variant with neutralizing titers that were lower compared to the ancestral strain but higher than for the Beta variant (first identified in South Africa), where high efficacy against severe disease was clinically demonstrated.

Q. How effective are the Eastern vaccines against the Delta variant?

A. Although data remain very limited, Chinese and Russian expert commentary and clinical trial results from India’s Bharat Biotech suggest that the Sinopharm, Sputnik V, and Bharat Biotech vaccines provide solid protection against severe disease.

Q. What about Delta’s impact on reinfection risk?

A. Although the data are particularly limited, research and experts suggest that prior infections continue to provide some protection against Delta, especially against severe disease.

Q. The UK is experiencing a surge in infections although hospitalizations and especially fatalities remain relatively low (Exhibit 2). What drives this “decoupling” and will it continue?

A. This mostly reflects the concentration of new infections among younger individuals but also a stronger vaccine protection against hospitalizations than against infections (especially for AstraZeneca). We therefore expect this decoupling to continue.





Q. Are infections and hospitalizations/fatalities also “decoupling” outside of the UK?

A. Most other economies with high vaccination rates and Delta outbreaks are also experiencing this decoupling, although it is particularly pronounced in the UK. We expect hospitalizations to remain relatively low in high vaccination countries.

Q. Does the virus still matter for activity in North America and Europe if hospitalizations stay low?

A. Yes. The virus GDP drag should, however, be much diminished and reflects travel restrictions, consumer risk aversion, and lingering softness in labor supply

Q. Twenty-two US states have vaccinated less than half of their populations (Exhibit 11) and infections are rising rapidly in several low vaccination states. Do we not expect sharp Delta-induced rises in hospitalizations and substantial economic damage in these states too?



A. While hospitalizations have already picked up in Arkansas, Missouri, and Nevada and are likely to increase further, we expect relatively limited economic damage for three reasons. First, higher elderly vaccination rates should limit the increase in hospitalizations (Exhibit 11). Second, the generally higher immunity rates from prior infections in these states should also limit the increase in hospitalizations (Exhibit 12, left panel and appendix). Third, the virus sensitivity of economic activity tends to be lower in low vaccination states (Exhibit 12, right panel).



Q. The Delta variant has raised the theoretical bar to achieve herd immunity to probably at least 85% of the population. Does vaccine hesitancy imply that countries will never approach such high immunity levels?

A. Not necessarily, and many medical experts believe the coronavirus will eventually turn from a pandemic to an endemic stage. The Delta variant likely implies higher ultimate vaccination rates (and immunity rates). In fact, further outbreaks appear to be sharply boosting demand in several countries, including the US, China, Australia, Israel, and especially Portugal (Exhibit 13).



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Source: Goldman Sachs
 

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Lots of scary news about the Delta/Indian variant of Covid. And while cases are climbing it should be noted that deaths are NOT going up with the cases.

Seems to me the bad thing about Covid is that it is still disrupting normal healthcare, it is delaying cancer treatment, delaying surgeries and causing other health issues.



U.K., Spain see COVID case spikes, but deaths stay flat

Apparent high rates of transmission have not been accompanied by surge in fatalities.

Recent spikes of positive COVID-19 tests in the United Kingdom and Spain have raised concerns about the virus’ spread in those countries, but deaths there have remained flat relative to earlier rises alongside case spikes.​
Spain began what has become a sharp spike in cases in late June, jumping to roughly the same levels the country had in early February, yet recorded deaths have continued to decline over that time.​
The U.K. has been on an upswing for even longer, with its late rise in cases beginning in early June. Yet deaths there, while rising very slightly, have remained effectively flat compared to earlier waves.​
The U.K. has fully vaccinated just over half of its population, while Spain has injected just over 40% of its own.​
Worldwide confirmed cases have been increasing since roughly mid-June.​
 

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I sure hope that this isn't going to be necessary.
At this point I'd bet that Covid becomes a seasonal inconvenience like the Flu. With variants floating around at some point we will need boosters if we want to stay protected from the disease. Perhaps not every year, but possibly every few years. And perhaps only for the most vulnerable in the population.
 

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Damn this COVID never gets tired of mutating. I'm so sick of it.
Pretty much all diseases mutate all the time. That is why the seasonal flu shot doesn't always work very well. Flu, which is very different than Covid in many ways, mutates as it moves around the world and is worse in the fall/winter months in the northern hemisphere. Covid will very likely become a seasonal problem in the same way as it returns in the fall of the year.

Mass vaccinations of the WORLD population could eventually get rid of it. But that is not a likely scenario. So more likely we will be offered a seasonal shot. It's also likely that the shot may only be needed every few years, not annually, as the mutations are not too different from the original strain.

We know that the DELTA/Indian variant spreads faster, but it also seems to be LESS deadly.

We also know that the DELTA/Indian variant seems to managed well by the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines.

Those who have chosen to be vaccinated may still get Covid, but even older/sicker people may not, if vaccinated, end up in the hospital or feel very sick if they get Covid.
 

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Media is lying about Covid...full story at link, this is Part 1 of a 3 part post:


Mainstream Media Is Wrong: Vaccine Hesitancy Is Not Highest Among Republican Men And Trump Isn't To Blame​

Authored by Emily Miller via Emily Post News,

The media elite has been telling us for months that the vaccine hesitancy rate is highest among Republicans, in particular, the men. The press alleges that the MAGA-hat-wearing-uneducated-conspiracy-theorists GOP are to blame for the continuing pandemic. But, guess what? The media lied. It’s young, healthy people who don't want to get vaccinated.



After six month of shots in arms, the vaccine hesitancy can be measured largely by who has not gotten one yet. The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reported recently that:

Vaccination coverage and intent among adults are lowest among those aged 18–39 years.
The official data shows that, from March to May, one quarter of these young adults said they were unsure about getting vaccinated and another quarter said they will not get it

The CDC doesn’t even mention political affiliation as a factor. Among the 18 to 39-year-olds, the rates were lowest for those who were younger, black, poorer, less educated, uninsured and living outside metropolitan areas.



However, the media elite have not let these facts stand in the way of a good story. To continue the blame-the-Republicans narrative, the press use public opinion polls as a basis of their reports. That’s how we’re still seeing so many stories on Republican hesitancy despite the CDC saying it’s not the case.

The Washington Post is Obsessed​

Look at what one outlet — The Washington Post — has published in just the past week:

HEADLINE: The GOP’s very stubborn vaccine skepticism
HEADLINE: A third of White conservatives refuse to get vaccinated — a refusal shown in polling and the real world
HEADLINE: We are in a race’: GOP governors implore residents to overcome vaccine hesitancy as delta variant rises
The Post even did its own poll to push this narrative more.

HEADLINE: Post-ABC poll: Biden earns high marks for handling the pandemic, but many Republicans resist vaccination.
The editors at The Post don’t see their own bias in the news side. But the opinion side was so determined to push this false narrative that it published two op-eds on the topic -- one from the left and the sorta-kinda right.

Opinion by Marc Thiessen: If Biden wants to convince the vaccine hesitant, give Trump credit for the vaccines
Opinion by Max Boot: Republicans are preventing America from reaching Biden’s vaccination goal
The obsession by the Post editors in making sure readers blame Republicans for any more COVID deaths is just one tiny glimpse into the larger problem with the media pushing this false narrative.

How the Media Works​

Going through the media stories about Republicans who supposedly won’t get vaccinated, there’s a clear pattern.

1) The outlet cites a public opinion poll, never the CDC statistics.​

2) The reporter gets quotes from random “expert'“ who says the poll proves the GOP is the problem with ending the pandemic.​

3) The journalist finds a twist to blame all this on Pres. Donald Trump.​



Of course it benefits Pres. Joe Biden to blame the lack of vaccinations on Republicans and Donald Trump because otherwise he would take the hit.

Since Democrats have retaken the White House, the taxpayer-funded media outlets (VOA, NPR, PBS) have been cleared out of Republicans so that the liberals who report and produce in these outlets can return to their agenda.

So, look what the Voice of America is airing all over the world: “Unvaccinated Americans Whiter, More Republican Than Vaccinated.” The story follows the patterns of corporate media.


 

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Part 2:


1) Cite a poll, not stats​

Kaiser Family Foundation and never mention the CDC.

2) Get quotes to say the poll shows Republicans are the bad guys​

In this case, the expert is just the head of the polling company: Liz Hamel, director of Kaiser Family Foundation's Public Opinion and Survey Research

3) Blame Trump​

In this story, they did it by quoting Hamel as the expert, like this:

For example, she said, "believing that the media has exaggerated the seriousness of the pandemic — that's something that we heard President Trump saying when he was in office. It's something that Republicans are more likely to agree with than Democrats. And people who believe that the pandemic has been exaggerated are much less likely to say they want to get the vaccine."

The New York Times is Ground Zero​

How did we get to this common knowledge that Republican men are the biggest holdouts of the COVID vaccine in the US? To answer that, we need to go back to March 2021 when people under 65-years old were first getting vaccinated and could provide real world data. Up to that point, the public opinion polls from as far back as June 2020 were hypothetical about getting a vaccine.

The The New York Times often sets the narrative for the rest of the media, especially TV news. This was the story in NYT on March 15:

HEADLINE: As Biden Confronts Vaccine Hesitancy, Republicans Are a Particular Challenge
The Times seems to have started the system for how to falsely claim Republicans are the most vaccine hesitant.

1) Cite poll, not stats—​

The evidence for the GOP being a “particular challenge” was a poll done by CBS News that the Times reported said one-third of Republicans would not be vaccinated compared with 10 percent of Democrats. That number is accurate, but The Timesdidn’t put it in perspective.

Overall, 22 percent of the people in the CBS poll said they will not get the vaccine, so “one-third” is not that big of a difference. (CBS said it “weighted” the results but didn’t publish the original numbers to show how.)



If The New York Times reporters had looked at the poll independently of the conclusion by CBS News, they might have looked at other factors. The age difference in the poll shows young people were above average for vaccine hesitancy — just as significant of a divider as party affiliation.

Those under 30 years old who said they won’t get a vaccine were 26 percent compared to only 15 percent over 65 years old. The divide is just as big as party affiliation when you look at actual hesitancy, people who are not sure. That is split 31 percent of young people and only 10 percent of older people.

If the story had instead concluded that age was the most important factor, then this NYT story in March would match the facts now from CDC that show young people are not getting vaccinated. Instead, just as the vaccine first became available for people under 65-years-old, The Times concluded this:

The administration is seeking help in urging Republicans to get inoculated. But the president said he was not sure how much value there was in enlisting his predecessor.

2) Expert says poll proves Republicans are the problem​

The Times refers to a reporter asking Pres. Biden about the alleged Republican vaccine problem at a press conference.

REPORTER: Should President Donald Trump help promote the vaccine among skeptics, sir, especially those Republicans who say they’re not willing to take it?
THE PRESIDENT: I’m hearing a lot of reports from serious reporters like you saying that. I discussed it with my team, and they say the thing that has more impact than anything Trump would say to the MAGA folks is what the local doctor, what the local preachers, what the local people in the community say.
Notice how Biden legitimizes the blame-Republicans theory by saying it’s coming from “serious reporters like you.” He never said it’s true or factual because there’s no evidence of it. The media and the Biden White House have the same agenda.

3) Blame Trump​

This was a layup for Biden since the reporter did it for him. The Times just piled on by saying Trump is to blame because he got his vaccine “in secret.”

Media Follows The New York Times

As I wrote earlier, the TV networks generally take The New York Times stories and put them to video. Since The Times used a poll from CBS to blame Republicans, CBS then used someone else’s poll to continue the hit job. This story is from April 7:

HEADLINE: Many Republican men are hesitant to get coronavirus vaccine: "I don't think it's necessary"
CBS followed the pattern to establish the narrative.

1) Cite poll​

They cited this poll without linking to it:

A recent Marist poll in partnership with NPR and PBS NewsHour found 49% of Republican men said they would not take the vaccine when it's available to them.

2) Quotes to back up the poll as fact​

CBS interviewed someone named Steve Mitchell who has “been polling Republicans in the state of Michigan for more than 30 years.” It’s a stretch to interview one guy in one state to assess the entire country, but that was how CBS could make this story stick.

Then CBS interviewed one guy in Michigan named Chris Howe who has no expertise or public position but just described as a “conservative living in Clarkston, Michigan, where he runs his own hardwood flooring business.” The point of using Howe is to get the juicy headline. But it is taken totally out of context.

Howe said he already had COVID so has the antibodies. The headline reads “I don’t think it’s necessary,” and it leaves out the second part of what Howe said: “"I have gotten it and I have not died." Of course it’s not necessary if you have natural immunity. But that doesn’t fit the narrative of this story.

3) Blame Trump​

This story doesn’t blame Trump directly, but says this :

In an interview with Fox News, former President Donald Trump said that he's taken the vaccine. "It's a great vaccine. It's a safe vaccine. It's something that works" he said.

Cable TV Blaming Republicans​

A couple weeks later, CNN does a report with this headline “Vaccine hesitancy among Republicans emerges as Biden's next big challenge.” It says:

And the hurdles that lie ahead for President Joe Biden in persuading Americans who did not vote for him to take the vaccine are coming into sharper focus as resistance among Republicans, White evangelicals and rural voters persists even though vaccines are now widely available.
CNN is able to write this as fact by doing the standard three steps to get to blame Trump.
 

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And finally Part 3:



1) Cite a poll, not hard numbers​

Even though this story was produced after people under 65-years-old started getting vaccinated, CNN did not use any actual statistics from the CDC. Instead it used a Monmouth poll that asks people if they got the shot. CNN was thus able to report that: “a stunning 43% of Republicans said they would likely never get the vaccine.”

2) Expert quotes to back up the poll​

CNN is of course totally in the tank for Biden, so it doesn’t try to back up the poll but instead uses administration officials to allegedly prove that Republicans not getting vaccinated will kill people. CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky is cited:

"Because this virus is an opportunist, we anticipate that the areas of lightest vaccine coverage now might be where the virus strikes next." She added that with only modest protection for the oldest people within the US population, "many more deaths" could ensue.

3) Blame Trump​

CNN’s business model is talk about how bad Trump is 24/7. So it’s not a surprise that the report on vaccine hesitancy just blames Trump without even a connection. The report says:

Trump has also seemed uninterested in helping to combat vaccine hesitancy even as some have urged him to do a public service announcement and greater publicity to encourage his supporters to get vaccinated. Trump did not get his vaccine on camera like other former US presidents.
CNN concluded— without any facts— that Trump is to blame for alleged Republicans holdouts who are stopping our country from ending the pandemic.

It remains unclear whether Trump will weigh in to help the Biden administration address vaccine skepticism, but Biden needs to find a way to get the message out to Trump's base that vaccines are safe, and in fact, necessary, for America to beat the virus.

Media Bias Seeps Into Science​

The most disconcerting of all The New York Times followers is the supposedly data-based journal “Scientific American.” The headline in its June issue is “Do Republicans Mistrust Science?" Here’s how it explained this totally non-scientific theory.

..... [click here to read the rest of the investigation]
 

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Pretty much all diseases mutate all the time. That is why the seasonal flu shot doesn't always work very well. Flu, which is very different than Covid in many ways, mutates as it moves around the world and is worse in the fall/winter months in the northern hemisphere. Covid will very likely become a seasonal problem in the same way as it returns in the fall of the year.

Mass vaccinations of the WORLD population could eventually get rid of it. But that is not a likely scenario. So more likely we will be offered a seasonal shot. It's also likely that the shot may only be needed every few years, not annually, as the mutations are not too different from the original strain.

We know that the DELTA/Indian variant spreads faster, but it also seems to be LESS deadly.

We also know that the DELTA/Indian variant seems to managed well by the Pfizer and the Moderna vaccines.

Those who have chosen to be vaccinated may still get Covid, but even older/sicker people may not, if vaccinated, end up in the hospital or feel very sick if they get Covid.
Thank God, I'm already vaccinated. So many people close to me have died last year and earlier this year that it really got me depressed.
 
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