Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry

[pirate_girl]

 

[pirate_girl]

At the present time we're holding at 6 residents on our unit/tested positive.
So far, asymptomatic.
You would not even know.

 

[bczoom]

Our zip code has spiked to 30 cases. We had less than 20 a few weeks ago. Even with 30 cases, that's less than 1% of our zip codes population.
I have a couple neighbors that I "heard" caught it but I haven't spoken with them to get any confirmation.

 

[EastTexFrank]

We're still waiting to see what happens after the Thanksgiving incubation period.

We were going to take the RV down to Fredericksburg in the Texas Hill Country. Cases are spiking around us but are not supposed to be be too bad down there. However, after much discussion, we decided to stay home and just write off 2020 altogether. Pity, it would have been a nice break and the first time in a year that we have used the RV.

 

[m1west]

My Friend/neighbor Robert that has cancer just told me his son tested positive and is quarantined in his room but still in the house. Robert has stage 4 esophagus cancer. Thats probably not the best situation. To add insult to injury they won't let him come to the hospital for his Chemo treatments for 14 days because he was exposed, even though both him and his wife have both tested negative twice. He told me the rapid tests are $150.00 each and he has spent $900.00 on them so far.

 

[Melensdad]

Walgreens & CVS will be distributing the vaccines. I think this is great news because the US doesn’t need to have taxpayer infrastructure, which cost taxpayer $$$ every day to maintain. Instead we have use of profit based efficient distribution at a fraction of the cost.

COVID-19 vaccine rollout relies heavily on pharmacy giants CVS and Walgreens

The COVID-19 vaccine campaign to reach the most vulnerable will depend not on public health departments but on pharmacy giants.

news.yahoo.com

This article makes it sound like we need a public distribution network in place to get the vaccine delivered to people’s arms. Why? We saw for profit companies develop vaccines in months when Dr Fauci said it would take 2 years. Personally I trust Walgreens a lot more than I trust the CDC

 

[pirate_girl]

If none of you have had the rapid return tests, I would recommend it if you're physician offers them vs the swab/tube 3-4 day.

These are said to take 15 minutes for a result, but my experience with watching the test activate shows a definite result either way within 2-3 minutes.

A green line first rises to the top, then a pink line will follow.

If positive another pink line will appear.

If negative, the pink line appears to smear and drag to the top, then you are left with a single pink line.

We're doing these every Monday and Wednesday now.

7 residents positive, one having mild symptoms now.

1 housekeeping employee and 1 nurses aide are off with mild symptoms.

 

[Doc]

Man, it is exploding around me. Daughter and her whole family were exposed so they are in quarantine. Sister in law and our niece and her family were exposed and now in quarantine. A superb cancer surgeon has had covid over a week. Was taken to Cleveland clinic yesterday. This Dr. has saved so many lives in our area now his is in peril. Scary shit. Vaccine can't get her soon enough. I'll take it when it available.

 

[pirate_girl]

It's being reported that a single dose of the vaccine is effective.
They're doing it in the UK now.

 

[pirate_girl]

The Food and Drug Administration released a detailed analysis Tuesday morning of the COVID-19 vaccine from Pfizer and its partner BioNTech ahead of a Thursday meeting of a group of independent experts that will advise the agency on whether to grant the vaccine an emergency use authorization.

The agency's analysis finds "no specific safety concerns identified that would preclude issuance of an EUA." Serious reactions were rare. Side effects are common, however, with a majority of study volunteers experiencing reactions at the site of injection, headaches and fatigue.

The analysis also affirms the previously stated vaccine effectiveness of 95%, assessed a week after two doses of vaccine. The vaccine doses are given 21 days apart.

The clinical data also suggest that the vaccine may be able to prevent COVID-19 after a single dose — 82% effective — though the FDA analysis says the available information doesn't allow for a firm conclusion on that potential effect.

The vaccine authorization under consideration is "for active immunization for the prevention of COVID-19 caused by SARS-CoV-2 in individuals 16 years of age and older."

 

[EastTexFrank]

PG, it can't get here soon enough. In reality, COVID-19 hasn't disrupted my life too much but I resent the disruption that it has caused. I don't mind the mask wearing stuff, I can live with that, but I resent the fact that it has reduced my life choices over the last year. I haven't shaken the hand of a friend for almost a year. We haven't drunk coffee together or sipped a Scotch and told lies about each other ... or laughed. Those are the things, and others like it, that I have missed, the social interaction and family gatherings. Once all the vaccinations are completed, my wife and her friends (cronies, partners in crime) are planning the biggest Texas BBQ that you have ever seen. You should be able to see the smoke from that sucker 50 miles away.

 

[Melensdad]

Warning over UK vaccine rollout as two NHS staff given jab suffer 'anaphylactic reaction': Regulators urge people with history of 'significant' allergies NOT to have Pfizer injection - just 24 hours after Britain's mass inoculation kicked off​

• Both the people are recovering following the first day of the mass vaccination programme, it is understood
• The NHS in England said that all the trusts involved with the vaccination programme have been informed
• MHRA has given advice anyone who has a history of 'significant' allergic reactions should not get the vaccine

The UK's world-first Covid-19 vaccine rollout has hit problems within 24 hours after anyone with a serious allergy to medicines or food was warned not to have the Pfizer jab because two NHS staff fell ill on V-Day.

The number of people set to be barred from having the Pfizer jab is not known, but up to 7million people in Britain have have allergies severe enough to require specialist allergy care, according to the NHS, while around 250,000 people need to carry an EpiPen.

Both the unnamed healthcare workers, who carried EpiPens, are recovering from reactions suffered shortly after their injections on the first day of Britain's biggest ever mass vaccination programme.

Calls for calm over Covid vaccine roll-out amid allergy scare

Both the healthcare workers, who carried EpiPens, are recovering from anaphylactoid reactions following the first day of the mass vaccination programme.

www.dailymail.co.uk

SIDE EFFECTS:
Very common (Likely to affect more than one in ten people)

• Pain at injection site
• Tiredness
• Muscle pain
• Chills
• Joint pain
• Fever

Common (Likely to affect up to one in ten people)

• Injection site swelling
• Redness at injection site
• Nausea

Uncommon (May affect one in 100 people)

• Enlarged lymph nodes
• Feeling unwell

 

[m1west]

Warning over UK vaccine rollout as two NHS staff given jab suffer 'anaphylactic reaction': Regulators urge people with history of 'significant' allergies NOT to have Pfizer injection - just 24 hours after Britain's mass inoculation kicked off​

• Both the people are recovering following the first day of the mass vaccination programme, it is understood
• The NHS in England said that all the trusts involved with the vaccination programme have been informed
• MHRA has given advice anyone who has a history of 'significant' allergic reactions should not get the vaccine

The UK's world-first Covid-19 vaccine rollout has hit problems within 24 hours after anyone with a serious allergy to medicines or food was warned not to have the Pfizer jab because two NHS staff fell ill on V-Day.

The number of people set to be barred from having the Pfizer jab is not known, but up to 7million people in Britain have have allergies severe enough to require specialist allergy care, according to the NHS, while around 250,000 people need to carry an EpiPen.

Both the unnamed healthcare workers, who carried EpiPens, are recovering from reactions suffered shortly after their injections on the first day of Britain's biggest ever mass vaccination programme.

Calls for calm over Covid vaccine roll-out amid allergy scare

Both the healthcare workers, who carried EpiPens, are recovering from anaphylactoid reactions following the first day of the mass vaccination programme.

www.dailymail.co.uk

SIDE EFFECTS:
Very common (Likely to affect more than one in ten people)

• Pain at injection site
• Tiredness
• Muscle pain
• Chills
• Joint pain
• Fever

Common (Likely to affect up to one in ten people)

• Injection site swelling
• Redness at injection site
• Nausea

Uncommon (May affect one in 100 people)

• Enlarged lymph nodes
• Feeling unwell

All that sounds like the flu.

 

[Melensdad]

All that sounds like the flu.

You may want to read this.

Some people experience far worse side effects.

The FDA says Pfizer’s Covid vaccine is safe and effective. But trial participants warn of intense symptoms after second shot

The FDA says the Pfizer Covid vaccine is both safe and effective. CNBC spoke with Pfizer and Moderna trial participants about what side effects you can expect.

www.cnbc.com

 

[NorthernRedneck]

Looks like the vaccine is being rolled out up here too.

Health Canada approves Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine

Read the full story and comment on Tbnewswatch.com

www.tbnewswatch.com

 

[Melensdad]

While the world waits for a vaccine we may have found a cure! 20 min video from a teaching doctor from the UK. Drug is called Ivermectin, it’s used by veterinarians and by human doctors. It may be a preventative and it may be a real cure. Or, it’s dirt cheap and available globally too.

 

[NorthernRedneck]

All I know is those stupid covid screening questions are getting monotonous. Really? I have 6 kids. I bring them in for their dental appointments at different times. I could be at the dental clinic 2-3 times in one day. Each time I go I have to answer "have you been out of the country or traveled anywhere in the past 14 days?" Seriously? I was just there at 9am and 11am and answered the questions then. Oh....and my favorite...do you have any aches and pains? Any headaches? Have you had a hangnail in the past 4 years?

I get the whole screening protocol and whatnot but some people may just have conditions that existed before covid was a thing.

 

[NorthernRedneck]

Some not so good news on the corona front up here. We were fairly isolated from the major outbreaks in s Ontario until a nurse in a seniors home traveled there and didn't follow the mandatory 14 day isolation protocol upon her return. She went straight back to work and within a week over 40 staff and residents were infected. That was 3 weeks ago. They just announced the 11th death in that facility today. Sad.

 

[pirate_girl]

Of the 7 that were on our covid unit, 5 are good to go testing negative now.
That's good news for us.
It's NOTHING like it was during the first wave.
That said, vaccines are coming soon, first to area hospitals, then us.
They've been saying our medic friends from the national guard will be administering them.

 

[NorthernRedneck]

They're arriving up here too. First the hospitals. Then nursing homes. Then First nation's people (natives). I figure that by the time the general public is eligible, there will be thousands of guinea pigs ahead of me. So we'll be able to see how it affects us.

 

[Ceee]

Some not so good news on the corona front up here. We were fairly isolated from the major outbreaks in s Ontario until a nurse in a seniors home traveled there and didn't follow the mandatory 14 day isolation protocol upon her return. She went straight back to work and within a week over 40 staff and residents were infected. That was 3 weeks ago. They just announced the 11th death in that facility today. Sad.

So very sad and so very unnecessary
Everyone is going to have to get on board with the guidelines before the US can get this pandemic under control.
I'm trying to do my part, just wish everyone else would.

 

[Melensdad]

Some not so good news on the corona front up here. We were fairly isolated from the major outbreaks in s Ontario until a nurse in a seniors home traveled there and didn't follow the mandatory 14 day isolation protocol upon her return. She went straight back to work and within a week over 40 staff and residents were infected. That was 3 weeks ago. They just announced the 11th death in that facility today. Sad.

One would assume that a fancy lawyer will be summoning up the families of those 11 people to sue the nurse for negligence and push to have her charged with murder if she can be directly tied to their deaths.

And it is this stupid, arrogant and total carelessness is why we need TREATMENTS more than we need the vaccine. How many more have to die?

Every resident in every retirement/care facility should probably be on Vitamin D, probably also taking Selenium, Zinc and possibly Melatonin. Those are simple. And there is enough evidence for ALL 4 of those as being beneficial that anyone who doesn't have an issue with drug interactions should probably take all those supplements.

Now we have STRONG evidence for Intermectin, a common drug that is so readily available its used in barns to treat horses by stable hands. It's been around for decades, it is cheap, it is available world wide and under a doctor's care it appears to be very effective for treating and curing Covid-19. Vitamin D, in IV form, has also been shown to be an effective treatment for Covid-19 in many patients.

But we are chasing multi-billion dollar vaccines when we have cheap cures. I'm not anti-vaccine and plan to take at least 1 of them, possibly multiple vaccines against Covid-19 as per my doctor's suggestion. But I'm baffled by the continued deaths as we ignore treatments and chase vaccines.


FROM the WALL STREET JOURNAL:

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Vaccines Are Coming but They Won’t End Covid-19 Anytime Soon​

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In the Philippines, inoculating the necessary 60 million to 70 million people could take up to five years, officials say​

By​

Dec. 13, 2020 8:00 am ET​

Listen to this article​

6 minutes​

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As Covid-19 vaccine development picks up pace, the Philippines has drawn up an immunization plan. The bottom line, officials say: Getting doses to enough of the population to rein in the virus will take two to five years.​

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That is the forecast for reaching the target of 60 million to 70 million of the country’s nearly 110 million people, they say, using a patchwork of vaccines from different suppliers. So far the Philippines has struck just one vaccine deal, for 2.6 million shots—enough for 1.3 million people.​

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Manila’s early blueprint is a reality check for those expecting a swift vaccine-driven end to the pandemic and revival of global trade and travel. While some countries may be able to get shots to large portions of their populations in 2021, some in the developing world may be years away from protecting more than their highest-risk populations.​

That means the virus will continue to circulate and claim lives in various corners of the map. Some global health specialists worry about a future in which the coronavirus lurks in such places, becoming endemic—and perhaps evolving in ways that make current vaccines less effective.​

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“There’s no point having products that do not reach the majority of the world’s population,” said Soumya Swaminathan, chief scientist of the World Health Organization. She cited the hepatitis B vaccine, saying it took 30 years after its introduction in rich countries to reach low- and middle-income countries.​

Only one disease—smallpox—has ever been eradicated from the human population using a vaccine.​

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[Ceee]

One would assume that a fancy lawyer will be summoning up the families of those 11 people to sue the nurse for negligence and push to have her charged with murder if she can be directly tied to their deaths.

And it is this stupid, arrogant and total carelessness is why we need TREATMENTS more than we need the vaccine. How many more have to die?

Every resident in every retirement/care facility should probably be on Vitamin D, probably also taking Selenium, Zinc and possibly Melatonin. Those are simple. And there is enough evidence for ALL 4 of those as being beneficial that anyone who doesn't have an issue with drug interactions should probably take all those supplements.

Now we have STRONG evidence for Intermectin, a common drug that is so readily available its used in barns to treat horses by stable hands. It's been around for decades, it is cheap, it is available world wide and under a doctor's care it appears to be very effective for treating and curing Covid-19. Vitamin D, in IV form, has also been shown to be an effective treatment for Covid-19 in many patients.

But we are chasing multi-billion dollar vaccines when we have cheap cures. I'm not anti-vaccine and plan to take at least 1 of them, possibly multiple vaccines against Covid-19 as per my doctor's suggestion. But I'm baffled by the continued deaths as we ignore treatments and chase vaccines.


FROM the WALL STREET JOURNAL:

​

​

Vaccines Are Coming but They Won’t End Covid-19 Anytime Soon​

​

In the Philippines, inoculating the necessary 60 million to 70 million people could take up to five years, officials say​

By​

Dec. 13, 2020 8:00 am ET​

Listen to this article​

6 minutes​

​

As Covid-19 vaccine development picks up pace, the Philippines has drawn up an immunization plan. The bottom line, officials say: Getting doses to enough of the population to rein in the virus will take two to five years.​

​

That is the forecast for reaching the target of 60 million to 70 million of the country’s nearly 110 million people, they say, using a patchwork of vaccines from different suppliers. So far the Philippines has struck just one vaccine deal, for 2.6 million shots—enough for 1.3 million people.​

​

Manila’s early blueprint is a reality check for those expecting a swift vaccine-driven end to the pandemic and revival of global trade and travel. While some countries may be able to get shots to large portions of their populations in 2021, some in the developing world may be years away from protecting more than their highest-risk populations.​

That means the virus will continue to circulate and claim lives in various corners of the map. Some global health specialists worry about a future in which the coronavirus lurks in such places, becoming endemic—and perhaps evolving in ways that make current vaccines less effective.​

​

“There’s no point having products that do not reach the majority of the world’s population,” said Soumya Swaminathan, chief scientist of the World Health Organization. She cited the hepatitis B vaccine, saying it took 30 years after its introduction in rich countries to reach low- and middle-income countries.​

Only one disease—smallpox—has ever been eradicated from the human population using a vaccine.​

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I get it, you're very pro vitamin D, selenium, and zinc. What do you think about a cod liver oil gel tablet? They're relatively cheap and easy to take. I could probably choke one of those down. I haven't missed my vitamin supplement, not even one time, since you said all that about Vitamin D, selenium, and zinc. I'm kind of iffy about the melatonin right now

 

[Melensdad]

I get it, you're very pro vitamin D, selenium, and zinc. What do you think about a cod liver oil gel tablet? They're relatively cheap and easy to take. I could probably choke one of those down. I haven't missed my vitamin supplement, not even one time, since you said all that about Vitamin D, selenium, and zinc. I'm kind of iffy about the melatonin right now

I don’t think about cod liver oil. I don’t even think about the supplements I take. I study facts. I read medical reports. I listen to doctors who know far more than I.

 

[Lenny]

Of the 7 that were on our covid unit, 5 are good to go testing negative now.
That's good news for us.
It's NOTHING like it was during the first wave.
That said, vaccines are coming soon, first to area hospitals, then us.
They've been saying our medic friends from the national guard will be administering them.

That's good!

How long does it normally take to go from positive to negative?

 

[pirate_girl]

That's good!

How long does it normally take to go from positive to negative?

In our experience it's been anywhere between a couple of weeks to a little over a month.

 

[Melensdad]

Well I’m past breeding age but this should be a concern for society. A Chinese study confirms Covid -19 attacks men’s testicles. So in addition to known long term lung issues and long term heart complications we now have infertility too.

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Full story at the link above, but a brief tidbit below:

New Chinese Study Confirms COVID-19 Attacks Testicles, May Affect Male Fertility​

BY TYLER DURDEN
TUESDAY, DEC 15, 2020 - 6:46
A new study has revealed that SARS-CoV-2, the virus which causes COVID-19, infects the testicles and likely impacts male fertility. Recall in March we reported that doctors in central Wuhan raised concerns over testicle damage after observing a lowered ratio of testosterone to luteinising hormone (T/LH).​

 

[Melensdad]

It is going to be a long winter.

Zerohedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

zerohedge.com

NYC Mayor Warns 'Prepare For Possibility Of Full Shutdown'​

BY TYLER DURDEN
MONDAY, DEC 14, 2020 - 10:54
Stocks are leaking lower Monday morning, erasing some of this morning's vaccine-induced (and possibly dollar- and Brexit-induced) bump,after NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio brought up the possibility of a "full shutdown" of NYC on Monday, the day that restaurants in the city were forced to close as new bans on indoor dining went into effect.

As restaurant workers across the city took to social media to offer closing restaurants (many of which will probably never reopen) one last toast, the mayor warned that there could be even more economic pain ahead, as COVID numbers and hospitalizations climb across the city and across the state, even as its health-care workers will be among the first in the country to get the vaccine).

"There’s the potential of having to do a full pause, a full shutdown, in the coming weeks, because we can’t let this kind of momentum go," de Blasio said on CNN when asked Monday morning about comments made by Gov. Andrew Cuomo last week, when the governor warned about a bigger shutdown.

"We’re seeing the kind of level of infection with the coronavirus we haven’t seen since May and we have got to stop that momentum — or else, our hospital system will be threatened," de Blasio added, before warning that the virus must be stopped at whatever the cost due to the threat of "too much damage".


"This kind of momentum that the disease has right now? We’ve got to stop it. We’ve got to stop it before it causes too much damage, too much pain...and we have to stop it to give time for the vaccine to really be properly distributed."
Presumably, not economic damage, though.
Stocks are moving lower...

...and gold is ripping.
Conversely, NYC will push ahead with plans to return schools to in-person learning, with the city already moving to five days a week for as many schools as possible. With schools staying open, de Blasio explained "full shutdown"




Also:

NYC Mayor Floats Post-Christmas Lockdown, But Final Decision Rests With Cuomo​

BY TYLER DURDEN
TUESDAY, DEC 15, 2020 - 12:30
For the second time in two days, NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio is publicly discussing another full-blown lockdown in the city, even as he simultaneously pushes to reopen schools.
NBC New York reports that de Blasio stressed that a shutdown on par with the springtime "PAUSE" (that's the state's monicker for its springtime lockdown) will be necessary to curb the surging cases in the city and the state. On top of suggesting once again that another lockdown in the Big Apple is virtually inevitable at this point, the mayor offered some new details, with the caveat that the decision ultimately rests with Gov. Cuomo.
Unlike Germany and the Netherlands, who have encouraged citizens to simply accept a Christmas lockdown, de Blasio suggested that the lockdown might be delayed until after Christmas because - let's be real - it would simply be ignored, otherwise.
The comments come as NYC's 7-day positivity rate - that's the average percentage of those tested who test positive, seen as an important indicator of viral spread adjusted for the level of testing - tops 5.5%, its highest level since the spring. It has persisted above this level since Nov. 30. It's already above the 5% threshold seen as the cutoff where de Blasio once promised to impose heightened new restrictions akin to what New Yorkers endured back in the spring. The city is reporting an average of 2,813 new cases/day over the past week.​

 

[Melensdad]

My brother will get the Pfizer vaccine on Saturday. He works for a hospital group, while not front line, he is deemed essential to their operation.

 

[pirate_girl]

My brother will get the Pfizer vaccine on Saturday. He works for a hospital group, while not front line, he is deemed essential to their operation.

Mercy Health (St. V) in Toledo received their first shipment today.