Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry

When the government tells me I don't need to worry, then I tend to think I really do need to be concerned. But at least one report is quoting some US health officials as saying there is no need for US citizens to worry.

We know there are 4 cases in the USA, 1 case in Canada.

The Canadian case is a man who arrived sick and is in the hospital in Toronto. Canadian health officials seemed to imply that they have probably contacted all the at risk people who may have been in contact with the Chinese national on the inbound flight.

In the US, there is 1 confirmed case in Washington State, 1 in Chicago, 2 in California. I believe all the cases are foreign nationals.

China has QUARANTINED roughly 60 MILLION PEOPLE by cutting off 16 (or more) cities. The epicenter is Wuhan, a city of 11 Million people, but the quarantine was put into place after roughly 5 million people left the city for the Lunar New Year celebration, which is the heaviest travel time in China and typically has more than 100,000,000 people traveling nationally + internationally for the week long holiday period.

Official sources say there are under 2000 cases worldwide, and approximately 50 deaths. The disease is being compared to the Spanish Flu, which killed millions just about 100 years ago, but this is considered far more dangerous.

UN-official sources suggest that at least 100,000 cases exist and the disease is spreading and mutating very quickly.

REUTERS SUMMARY:
http://news.trust.org/item/20200126105121-12mxo

China scrambles to contain 'strengthening' virus
(Adds comments from mayor of Wuhan)

* Coronavirus' transmission ability getting stronger

* Incubation 1-14 days, infectious during incubation

* China confirms 1,975 people infected, 56 dead

* U.S. to evacuate diplomatic staff, citizens from Wuhan

* China imposes temporary nationwide ban on sale of wildlife

By Gabriel D. Crossley and Cheng Leng

BEIJING/SHANGHAI, Jan 26 (Reuters) - The ability of the new coronavirus to spread is strengthening and infections could continue to rise, China's National Health Commission said on Sunday, with more than 2,000 people in China infected and 56 killed by the disease.

Health authorities around the world are racing to prevent a pandemic after a handful of cases of infection were reported outside China, including in Thailand, Australia, the United States and France.

The mayor of Wuhan, the epicentre of the outbreak, said he expected another 1,000 new patients in the city, which was stepping up construction of special hospitals.

The newly identified coronavirus has created alarm because much about it is still unknown, such as how dangerous it is and how easily it spreads between people. It can cause pneumonia, which has been deadly in some cases.

China's National Health Commission Minister Ma Xiaowei said the incubation period for the virus can range from one to 14 days, during which infection can occur, which was not the case with Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS).

SARS was a coronavirus that originated in China and killed nearly 800 people globally in 2002 and 2003.

"According to recent clinical information, the virus' ability to spread seems to be getting somewhat stronger," Ma told reporters.

The Lunar New Year holiday, traditionally celebrated by hundreds of millions of Chinese travelling around the country and abroad to see family, began on Friday but has been severely disrupted by the outbreak.

Ma said China would intensify its containment efforts, which have so far included transportation and travel curbs and the cancellation of big events.

The country may extend the week-long Lunar New Year holiday, state broadcaster CCTV reported, citing a meeting hosted by Chinese premier Li Keqiang.

The virus, believed to have originated late last year in a seafood market in Wuhan that was illegally selling wildlife, has spread to cities including Beijing and Shanghai. Hong Kong has six confirmed cases.

The World Health Organisation this week stopped short of calling the outbreak a global health emergency, but some health experts question whether China can contain the epidemic.

Chinese President Xi Jinping described the situation as "grave" on Saturday.

China confirmed 2,051 cases of infection as of 7 p.m. (1100 GMT) on Jan. 26, while the death toll from the virus remained at 56, state broadcaster CCTV reported.

Health officials in Orange County, California, reported that a third case had been registered in the United States in a traveller from Wuhan, who was in isolation and in good condition.

On Saturday, Canada declared a first "presumptive" confirmed case in a resident who had returned from Wuhan. Australia confirmed its first four cases.

No fatalities have been reported outside China.

WILDLIFE SALES BAN

On Sunday, China temporarily banned nationwide the sale of wildlife in markets, restaurants, and e-commerce platforms. Wild and often poached animals packed together in Chinese markets are blamed as incubators for viruses to evolve and jump the species barrier to humans.

Snakes, peacocks, crocodiles and other species can also be found for sale via Taobao, an e-commerce website run by Alibaba.

The New York-based Wildlife Conservation Society called on China to make the ban permanent.

The U.S. State Department said it will relocate personnel at its Wuhan consulate to the United States, while Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said his government was working with China to arrange a charter flight for Japanese nationals to return from Wuhan.

The outbreak has prompted widening curbs on movements within China, with Wuhan, a city of 11 million, on virtual lockdown and transport links all-but severed except for emergency vehicles.

CANCELLATIONS AND MISTRUST

Health authorities in Beijing urged people not to shake hands but instead salute using a traditional cupped-hand gesture. The advice was sent in a text message that went out to mobile phone users in the city on Sunday morning.

Beijing also postponed the reopening of the city's schools and universities after the Lunar New Year holiday, state radio reported. Hong Kong had already delayed the reopening of schools to Feb. 17.

China has called for transparency in managing the crisis, after a cover-up of the spread of the SARS virus eroded public trust, but officials in Wuhan have been criticised for their handling of the current outbreak.

"People in my hometown all suspect the real infected patients number given by authorities," said Violet Li, who lives in the Wuhan district where the seafood market is located.

Illustrating the extend of disruption to life in China, overall passenger travel declined by nearly 29% on Saturday, the first day of the Lunar New Year, from a year earlier, with air passengers down nearly 42%, a transportation ministry official said.

Many cinemas across China were closed with major film premieres postponed.

Cruise operators including Royal Caribbean Cruises, and Costa Cruises said they had cancelled a combined 12 cruises that had been scheduled to embark from Chinese ports before Feb. 2.

Hong Kong Disneyland and the city's Ocean Park were closed on Sunday. Shanghai Disneyland, which expected 100,000 visitors daily through the holiday period, has already closed.

Airports around the world have stepped up screening of passengers from China, although some health officials and experts have questioned the effectiveness of these efforts.
 
I read a report somewhere a while back which said the Ivermectin had no effect on Covid-19.

I don't know if that is true or not but I was in the feed store a while back and I asked the owner, who I've known for 20 years, if he was going to get the vaccine shot. He told me that he wasn't but was going to keep self treating with Ivermectin. He's never worn a mask and he never caught COVID-19 and as an added bonus, flies don't bother him either.
Ivermectin is showing great results according to lots of doctors, including at some very high level research & teaching hospitals. Look up Dr Pierre Kory's testimony to the US Senate. Plenty of evidence to back his claims.

In the US the drug is used primarily in topical ointments for on animals so buying it at the local farm supply is not the Ivermectin needed. Its an anti paracidic with anti inflammatory properties. Humans want the pill form.

Dr Campbell, a UK based teaching PHD, has several video interviews on YouTube, including a 2 parter with Dr Kory. But he has probably done about 8 total discussing Ivermectin, starting at a position of a skeptic and now as an advocate.
 
USA gives Pfizer shots 3 weeks apart.

UK gives Pfizer shots 3 months apart. Canada is looking to follow the UK path because they have a massive vaccine shortage.

UK's theory is the 1st shot gives a good level of immunity and protection. That seemed to work well with the ORIGINAL strain of Covid. But looks like not working out so great for vatiants.




UK Study Finds Pfizer Vaccine Doesn't Offer "Full Protection" From Mutant COVID Strains

As shortages of COVID-19 vaccine supplies force more countries stretch the time between the first and second vaccine doses to try and vaccinate more people, the latest data out of a UK study of vaccination rates has stumbled on a disturbing finding: the study found that people who have had one dose are still at risk from mutated strains of the virus.
The study, published Friday afternoon in London by Imperial College London and published in the journal Science, examined the immune responses of health-care workers following their first dose of the Pfizer jab.
It found that people who had previously been infected saw significantly enhanced protection against mutant strains of the virus typically referred to as "variants". Those who only received the jab, but weren't previously infected, showed an immune response that was "less strong after a first dose, potentially leaving them at risk from variants." The findings show that those who have received the Pfizer jab aren't "fully protected" from COVID-19 variants.
Professor Rosemary Boyton, Professor of Immunology and Respiratory Medicine at Imperial College London, who led the research, said: “Our findings show that people who have had their first dose of vaccine, and who have not previously been infected with SARS-CoV-2, are not fully protected against the circulating variants of concern. This study highlights the importance of getting second doses of the vaccine rolled out to protect the population.”
Imperial College published the results in full on its website.
Meanwhile, another study released Friday came to a similar conclusion, showing that some patients who have received their first dose still wind up in the hospital with COVID symptoms.
The news appeared to weigh on US stocks, which tumbled to their lows of the session shortly after the news broke. Analysts claimed the study is a problem for the global growth outlook - which has already taken a hit thanks to to the latest data out of China - as countries like Canada aim to stagger doses by months to try and make the most out of limited supplies.
According to the latest data released on Friday, 65% of British adults have already received at least one dose, while 3,736,654 people were vaccinated in the past 7 days. More than 25% of adults in the country, meanwhile, have received both doses. 48,748,962 doses of COVID-19 vaccine have now been administered in the UK, while the US just announced that 100M Americans have now been fully vaccinated.
But the latest study data available suggests that patients who have received only one shot are still vulnerable. Researchers say the findings are reassuring because vaccines are never 100% perfect and failures are expected. But others have said that the most vulnerable patients may be letting their guard down too soon after one vaccine.
The study analyzed a quarter of all hospital patients in England, Scotland and Wales between early December and early April, and is one of the first to look at the impact of vaccinations on the numbers of people subsequently admitted to hospital.
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Meanwhile, Dr. Annemarie Docherty, a study co-author and honorary consultant in critical care, warned that this is just the latest sign that patients are assuming they're "safe" immediately after being vaccinated, rather than weeks later.
"It's entirely possible that elderly people will catch coronavirus again and may die," she said.


FULL STORY AT LINK ABOVE
 
Lots of bad stuff happening with Covid in other parts of the world. New lockdowns in parts of Europe while India, Brazil and Costa Rica have their healthcare systems in collapse. Israel, UK and US are racing to return to normal.

And the CDC and Fauci have become total jokes.


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Lots of bad stuff happening with Covid in other parts of the world. New lockdowns in parts of Europe while India, Brazil and Costa Rica have their healthcare systems in collapse. Israel, UK and US are racing to return to normal.

And the CDC and Fauci have become total jokes.


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Did Fauci or the CDC actually say the above (what's in the attachment), or is that just a joke? Call me gullible because I don't know what to think about that.
 
Lots of bad stuff happening with Covid in other parts of the world. New lockdowns in parts of Europe while India, Brazil and Costa Rica have their healthcare systems in collapse. Israel, UK and US are racing to return to normal.

And the CDC and Fauci have become total jokes.


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Thank goodness I'm allowed to do missionary again. Doggy style was really getting be so old hat.
 
Did Fauci or the CDC actually say the above (what's in the attachment), or is that just a joke? Call me gullible because I don't know what to think about that.
The attachment is a joke.

But, Dr Fauci actually said people should wear masks while having casual sex with non-exclusive partners.

Consequently people are making fun of him.

But then, there is actually a lot to make fun of with him. He seemed genuinely concerned in the early stages but was caught lying and changing the story so frequently that he became a joke all by himself. I'm not saying he is not a brilliant doctor, but he is a lousy politician. And sadly, for the American public, he became a politician.

And I people can forgive a doctor who changes their story with new evidence, by admitting that the new science is suggesting different things, but he never did that. Certainly as this disease unfolded, and still unfolds, we've gotten all sorts of new information.

We know that 3 layer cotton masks do not work (actually they may have a positive effect of approximately 1.3% in the reduction of the spread). We also know that masks should be COMPLETELY DRIED between use, that they should not be used 2 days in a row, that "surgical masks" have a total lifespan of approximately 8 hours of use, that N95 masks have an approximately lifespan of approximately 40 hours of use but should not be used 2 days in a row. We know that cotton, linen, denim, etc are totally worthless. We also know that cloth masks can actually increase people's chances of OTHER respiratory diseases if they are not washed. BUT DO WE GET COMMON GUIDANCE FROM THE CDC about any of those things???
 
In the UK, the government has approved an experiment. There is going to be an indoor rave with NO social distancing and NO masks. Partygoers will be tested for the virus on arrival and departure to see if there is any infection.

They did a similar test in Barcelona recently. No transmission. But they only allowed non-infected people into the venue, so it is only logical that the "after" test would also come back negative.
 
They did a similar test in Barcelona recently. No transmission. But they only allowed non-infected people into the venue, so it is only logical that the "after" test would also come back negative.
Actually, now you mention it, I think the Liverpool test was conducted in a similar way ? Partygoers had to produce a 'negative' test certificate before they could enter ?
 
Actually, now you mention it, I think the Liverpool test was conducted in a similar way ? Partygoers had to produce a 'negative' test certificate before they could enter ?
No clue about Liverpool

But Barcelona was an actual medical study.

5000 people. All tested negative the day of the event. All tested within 2 weeks after the event. A very small number had positive test results and all but a couple of those could be "traced" to other causes. The 2 or 3 that could not be traced to other causes were presumed to be infected outside of the event.

So basically the study, which seemed pretty stupid, said proven (via test) healthy people don't spread disease.
 
DeWine just announced that nursing home employees who've been vaccinated, no longer have to be tested for covid.
Whoopie doozie.
That might just be pragmatism ? Even if somebody who is inoculated DOES get re-infected, the standard tests might not detect the infection ?
 
No clue about Liverpool

But Barcelona was an actual medical study.

5000 people. All tested negative the day of the event. All tested within 2 weeks after the event. A very small number had positive test results and all but a couple of those could be "traced" to other causes. The 2 or 3 that could not be traced to other causes were presumed to be infected outside of the event.

So basically the study, which seemed pretty stupid, said proven (via test) healthy people don't spread disease.
That's actually quite an important result ? It implies - for example - that inoculated people might not spread the disease ?
 

NEW YORK (WABC) -- The FDA could expand COVID vaccines for 12-to-15-year-olds as early as this week.

Health experts say the agency is expected to authorize Pfizer's drug for that age group any day now.


The decision would allow middle school students and all high school students to get the shots.

Pfizer says clinical trials showed the vaccine was 100% effective for 12-to-15 year-olds.

If authorized, that age group may start receiving the Pfizer vaccine later this month.
 
That's actually quite an important result ? It implies - for example - that inoculated people might not spread the disease ?
These were NOT necessarily inoculated.

Spain is doing a piss poor job of vaccinating their citizens.

They took a rapid test. Tested negative. Went inside. Partied. Departed. So they were NEGATIVE when they went inside. The test, to my untrained eye, was essentially pointless. It simply showed that, if you want to really increase prices to cover the cost of rapid testing all your potential customers, you can have a concert if they all test negative.
 
These were NOT necessarily inoculated.

Spain is doing a piss poor job of vaccinating their citizens.

They took a rapid test. Tested negative. Went inside. Partied. Departed. So they were NEGATIVE when they went inside. The test, to my untrained eye, was essentially pointless. It simply showed that, if you want to really increase prices to cover the cost of rapid testing all your potential customers, you can have a concert if they all test negative.
Hmm.. you're right. So what WAS the point of it all ?
 
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