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Corona Virus spreading ... US official says no need to worry

Melensdad

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Once again, Flip-flop Fauci is proving he is truly an enemy of the people:


I swear these people want to see the pandemic get worse so they can advance their agenda and their wallets.
Flight ban starts on Monday

Affects 8 nations, so far.
 

pirate_girl

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Kinda reminds me of 2014/2016?
Ebola.
Outbreak never QUITE made it to the US.
They tried "ring vaccination" over there.
Of course it wasn't trumped by Obama in those days as much as covid is now.
Perhaps Moderna and Pfizer will hurry up with yet another unsafe clot shot.
 

Melensdad

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Kinda reminds me of 2014/2016?
Ebola.
Outbreak never QUITE made it to the US.
They tried "ring vaccination" over there.
Of course it wasn't trumped by Obama in those days as much as covid is now.
Perhaps Moderna and Pfizer will hurry up with yet another unsafe clot shot.
Pfizer announced they can get one on the market in about 100 days. Distribution is a bigger problem than mRNA development so distribution takes longer than computer developed viruses.

At this point none is in development for the new variant.

Nobody knows if it is spreading faster, if it is more lethal, etc etc etc. We should have a better understanding in about 30 days.

Most viruses tend to become less lethal over time. The reality is that those people who are "at risk" are the ones who need to be concerned. The average healthy citizen will likely get it, get a little bit sick, and recover.
 

pirate_girl

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Pfizer announced they can get one on the market in about 100 days. Distribution is a bigger problem than mRNA development so distribution takes longer than computer developed viruses.

At this point none is in development for the new variant.

Nobody knows if it is spreading faster, if it is more lethal, etc etc etc. We should have a better understanding in about 30 days.

Most viruses tend to become less lethal over time. The reality is that those people who are "at risk" are the ones who need to be concerned. The average healthy citizen will likely get it, get a little bit sick, and recover.
If you say so.
But I know what I know.
Thanks Bob.
 

Melensdad

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If you say so.
But I know what I know.
Thanks Bob.
I don't know what that means.

There is no published data on how fast this new one spread.

There is no published data on how less/more lethal this variant is. But we know from history that most viruses tend to be less lethal over time.

Based on the current data, and based on published information, we pretty much only know what history tells us about viruses.

That said, it seems prudent that "at risk" people are the ones who need to take precautions. And we know that obese, immunosuppressed, elderly and people with pulmonary issues are the highest risks for the current Covid strains so it's reasonable to continue to use those risk factors as the starting points for the new strain.

Late today Pfizer stated it will take at least 2 weeks to know anything about the risks (if there are any) of this new variant. Earlier today the CDC and the WHO both said it will take roughly 4 weeks to know if this variant is going to become an issue. So right now it is just like many other variants and probably should simply be watched to see if it is simply hype.

So what do you know that I am not saying?
 

Melensdad

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Too bad the new pill is not as effective as originally hoped.

With any luck failures like this will put more pressure on governments to try cheap and apparently effective drugs like Ivermectin. The reality is that people at risk need a treatment. It is easier to distribute pills to remote corners of the road than it is to move temperature sensitive injectables.

Ivermectin has not been proven, conclusively, to work. But it has been shown, anecdotally, to be very effective. Why we keep wasting our time and huge amounts of money on new drugs without testing what we have is baffling.
 

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Too bad the new pill is not as effective as originally hoped.

With any luck failures like this will put more pressure on governments to try cheap and apparently effective drugs like Ivermectin. The reality is that people at risk need a treatment. It is easier to distribute pills to remote corners of the road than it is to move temperature sensitive injectables.

Ivermectin has not been proven, conclusively, to work. But it has been shown, anecdotally, to be very effective. Why we keep wasting our time and huge amounts of money on new drugs without testing what we have is baffling.
Like G&T says, I think the drug companies and investors know there will never be a 100% cure. We are suppose to believe that. They know its going to mutate and that is a cash cow for them. Giving out something cheap and effective goes against the narritive. Fact: in the civil war, repeating rifles were available but not given, because they thought you would waist ammunition while trying to survive. Does anyone really believe the government has anyones best interest at heart, besides there own.
 

Melensdad

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Natural Immunity is now gaining support in the scientific community.

Fully story is at the link.


Covid-19 Vaccines or Infections: Which Carries the Stronger Immunity?

Evidence grows that infections provide as much protection as vaccines, prompting some experts to suggest a nuanced approach to vaccine mandates

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Nov. 27, 2021 5:30 am ET
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Evidence is building that immunity from Covid-19 infection is at least as strong as that from vaccination. Scientists are divided on the implications for vaccine policy.

The role of immunity from infection, which scientists have been trying to figure out since the outset of the pandemic, has gained fresh significance amid the controversy over vaccine mandates.

Vaccines typically give rise to a stronger antibody response than infection, which might make them better at fending off the virus in the short term. Infection triggers a response that evolves over time, possibly making it more robust in the long term. A combination of both types appears to be stronger than either alone. But the jury is out on whether one form is stronger than the other, and whether their relative strength even matters for vaccine policy.

The comparison is further complicated by the emergence of new variants, such as that identified this month in southern Africa, which may be more contagious and be better at evading vaccines.

One thing is clear: Vaccination is a far safer, more reliable strategy for acquiring immunity, given the risks of serious illness or death from infection. But viewpoints splinter about whether people who have had Covid-19 before need a full course of vaccination, and whether documented prior infection should count as proof of immunity—as is the case in some other countries, including much of Europe.

Immunity from infection hasn’t been studied as extensively as vaccine-mediated immunity. But over the course of the pandemic, clues have emerged to suggest the two are at least equivalent. . .
 
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Melensdad

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No doubt it will be used in the mid terms to their advantage as best they can but other countries are also taking action. Israel is not allowing visitors from anywhere in the world. Nothing to do with our mid terms.
Agreed.

Certainly our authoritarian leaning politicians will do their best to capitalized on this new variant to take more of our rights, but clearly many in the US are fed up with that BS and will push back. I'd suspect that RED states will remain as open as possible and BLUE states will lock down, have high unemployment and the disease will flow through both types of states.

The disease is real.

The threat from the leftists is also real, but the reality is that the disease is real and a for those with risk factors it is a serious threat to their health.

The freedom loving Americans in free states will assert their power. The sheep in blue states will whine and wring their hands.
 

pirate_girl

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Agreed.

Certainly our authoritarian leaning politicians will do their best to capitalized on this new variant to take more of our rights, but clearly many in the US are fed up with that BS and will push back. I'd suspect that RED states will remain as open as possible and BLUE states will lock down, have high unemployment and the disease will flow through both types of states.

The disease is real.

The threat from the leftists is also real, but the reality is that the disease is real and a for those with risk factors it is a serious threat to their health.

The freedom loving Americans in free states will assert their power. The sheep in blue states will whine and wring their hands.
That!! ^^^^
Well said, Bob.
 

MrLovable

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Omicron ?? Hell, why not Unicorn, or Cornpop ?? Anyone else notice how they skipped over the next letter in the Greek alphabet, xi, to get to Omicron. Can't use xi now can we? Nope, sure as hell can't.

First off, these assholes created this virus. Then they created the pandemic. Then they took full control thinking they could take care of it. And ever since it’s been nothing but bullshit upon bullshit, and pretty much one failure after another !

Yes, we can all agree that sars-cov2 is a real virus. BY DESIGN ! But it’s still a virus. And a virus is gonna be virus. Sars-cov1 was cleaned off the face of the planet within 2 years ! Completely gone ! Only globally around 8000 cases and 800 deaths ? No lock downs, no masks, no vaccines, nowhere near the vast oceans of bullsit we’ve all seen with COVID-19. AND WHY ?!?!?! What happened ??

Here’s the difference and how to end this insanity !

1. SARS-cov1 was NOT a stealth virus. Only the symptomatic were contagious. So as soon as anyone showed illness they got quarantined, treatment, and they either recovered or died. BUT THEY DIDN’T KEEP SPREADING THE DAMN VIRUS ALL OVER CREATION !!

2. SARS-cov2 on the other hand is a stealth virus. You can get it and transmit it whether your sick or not, or vaccinated or not. Hell, we gladly flew this thing all over the world to every country and passed it on to everyone like a top hit on Facebook or Twitter. And things only got worse from there! If not by design, then by politicizing it, and stupidity, and insanity. An on going string of disasters.

Here, get jabbed and go spread it even more! Here’s your virus passport ! Folks, this is shear madness. It’s been the insane leading the fucking insane. Instead of paying people a grand a week to sit home on their ass and drop out of the workforce, it would make more sense to use that money to pay people to stay home if they test positive and it is confirmed by a health care pro.

3. The vaccines aren’t real vaccines. They’re just immunity boosters. You’ll need them regularly. Ok I guess as a temporary stop gap. Living in a covid world. But the only way we might ever get this bug under control is the same way we did with sars-cov1. We’re all gonna need personal/home test kits and use them like pregnancy test kits. Except in this case unprotected sex may be as easy as breathing in another person’s exhaust. Vaccinated or not, that’s right, test, test, test. And if you test positive, then you gotta quarantine and get treatment. Don’t pass it on ! Otherwise all this bullshit ain’t ever gonna get better or stop. Just get continually worse.

The so called Great Reset is a global thing not just the USA. The problem the globalists have right now is us, the USA. We are the ones who fight back. We are the ones who have the all the guns. Hell, as a nation we are all better armed than any army in the world, including ours. This is not lost on the globalists. This has all been designed to take down the USA. We are the ones standing in their way. Anyone remember when Trump said I am the one standing between you and them. Who was them, huh? Trump got all this, Trump understood all this. That is why he had to go by any means shy of assassination. The last they wanted was to create a martyr. Wake up people, you are being played for fools. Fight back, resist or you will die. Trump knows this. DeSantis knows this. Do you?
 
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pirate_girl

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Unusual, but mild.


Dr. Angelique Coetzee said that the unusual infections she was seeing in her private practice in Pretoria earlier this month presented “unusual but mild” symptoms, according to the Telegraph.

Coetzee, chair of the South African Medical Association, said it was “premature” to say the virus was going to mushroom into a global health crisis, according to the Guardian. On Friday, the World Health Association dubbed the Omicron variant a variant of concern. President Joe Biden then slapped travel restrictions on multiple African countries.

“It’s all speculation at this stage. It may be it’s highly transmissible, but so far the cases we are seeing are extremely mild,” she said.
 
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