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pirate_girl

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We had our meeting at work today regarding the vaccine mandate deadline.
Let me just say, tempers flared.
I stand with my sisters and brothers in nursing who are flatly refusing.
The administrator urged the signing of the exemption form, based on medical and religious grounds.
She said, you all better get religious real fast.
This isn't an OSHA thing, corporate are staying out of it.
It's about losing Medicare and Medicaid funding at the end of the day.
It's said that those who do not comply will not be able to test free at work on the usual days, but will be charged via their insurance.
I think it's all bullshit.
 

Doc

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I thought a judge said they could not implement the mandated vaccine?

Our daughter in law said the hospital she works at is making ready too. They cannot afford to lose the Medicare / Medicaid funds so people who do not comply will be fired. What a fucking mess. If Biden screws the entire health care world with this mandate we will all be in a world of hurt. More will die, the result of good intentions but idiotic that they can't think it through and see the repercussions of such actions.
 

pirate_girl

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I thought a judge said they could not implement the mandated vaccine?

Our daughter in law said the hospital she works at is making ready too. They cannot afford to lose the Medicare / Medicaid funds so people who do not comply will be fired. What a fucking mess. If Biden screws the entire health care world with this mandate we will all be in a world of hurt. More will die, the result of good intentions but idiotic that they can't think it through and see the repercussions of such actions.
Doc, that's why our meeting got so heated.
I opened my mouth, even being fully vaccinated as did some others.
Do they really care about the care of patients and residents?
No, they DO care about keeping facilities open and running with funding coming in.
Even though most healthcare facilities are already short staffed and struggling, they do not give two shits.
Comply and obey, or suffer the consequences.
I never thought I'd live to see anything like this.
😥😡
 

m1west

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Doc, that's why our meeting got so heated.
I opened my mouth, even being fully vaccinated as did some others.
Do they really care about the care of patients and residents?
No, they DO care about keeping facilities open and running with funding coming in.
Even though most healthcare facilities are already short staffed and struggling, they do not give two shits.
Comply and obey, or suffer the consequences.
I never thought I'd live to see anything like this.
😥😡
You can sue the vaccine makers, but I'm thinking if an employer mandates it, they could be on the hook for any adverse reactions.
 

pirate_girl

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You can sue the vaccine makers, but I'm thinking if an employer mandates it, they could be on the hook for any adverse reactions.
This was something that was brought up today as well.
I do not know where all of this is going to end, (if it ever ends).. but I'm hoping it's going to come down to masking for the next year or vaccines for those who comply being the acceptable route/ or hopefully our powers that be will eventually step in at the 11th hour and see that healthcare adequately staffed is the answer.
This cannot possibly happen any other way.
There needs to be middle ground for the sake of those who need it.
 

Doc

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This was something that was brought up today as well.
I do not know where all of this is going to end, (if it ever ends).. but I'm hoping it's going to come down to masking for the next year or vaccines for those who comply being the acceptable route/ or hopefully our powers that be will eventually step in at the 11th hour and see that healthcare adequately staffed is the answer.
This cannot possibly happen any other way.
There needs to be middle ground for the sake of those who need it.
Well said. :agree:
 

XeVfTEUtaAqJHTqq

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There are two mandates. The OSHA mandate which is most likely going to get blocked. The other mandate is an Executive Order for any business with a Federal Government contract. This one is going to be harder to block and is the one that is really impacting businesses and employees.
 

pirate_girl

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There are two mandates. The OSHA mandate which is most likely going to get blocked. The other mandate is an Executive Order for any business with a Federal Government contract. This one is going to be harder to block and is the one that is really impacting businesses and employees.
Yes, it's the CMS mandate for us.
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Melensdad

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I have been pushing the stories of Vitamin D for much of the Covid period, here is some more information on Vitamin D and Covid.

If you don't take a daily Vitamin D tablet you may want to start doing so. It takes time to build up in your system. So you simply want to be proactive. The good thing is that Vitamin D3 is cheap and easily available.

Seriously folks, please consider a daily Vitamin D tablet/capsule/pill.



And part 2

 

Mark1911

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I have thus far avoided the vaccine, having had Covid just about one year ago now. It went through the whole family (The wife and I, and our two teens) with the only serious impact being that we all lost taste and smell for about 6 weeks. You’d think you’d lose a bit of weight, not being able to taste food for a month and a half, but you’d be wrong, lol.

Any way, if push comes to shove and I need to get the vaccine to continue my job, then I will most likely submit - I’m not going to die on that hill. HOWEVER, I will do whatever is necessary to keep that vaccine OUT of my teen-age children’s bodies - and I mean whatever is necessary, wether it be home-schooling, private schooling, etc. in my humble opinion, vaccinating children against Covid is asinine. Kids <18 have a vanishingly small chance of serious reaction to Covid - their chances of severe reaction to the vaccine are at least 5x more than a sever reaction to Covid - ESPICALLY if they have previously contracted and recovered from the virus.
 

Melensdad

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Good video. We have known that natural immunity, which can only be gained by first getting covid, is more powerful than any of the various vaccines. This video gives more validation to that.

Notice that the Dr Beem also stated that he does not recommend going out and getting Covid to attain natural immunity. He quite correctly points out that natural immunity, if you have it, is better, statistically than the shots.

It is logical to question why nations are issuing "vaccine passports" and why venues are requiring vaccines when, realistically, it would be better to issue "immunity passports" for these purposes.

Here are the study conclusions from the link provided at the video source above:

Results and Discussion During the study period (December 16, 2020 to September 30, 2021), 4615 HCWs contributed to a total of 1,152,486 person-days at risk (excluding 309 HCWs with prior infection) and had a COVID-19 incidence rate of 5.2/10,000 (114 infections out of 219,842 person-days) for unvaccinated person-days and 0.6/10,000 (49 infections out of 830,084 person-days) for fully vaccinated person-days, resulting in an adjusted VE of 82.3% (95% CI: 75.1–87.4%). For the secondary analysis limited to the period of delta variant predominance in Massachusetts (i.e., July 1 to September 30, 2021), we observed an adjusted VE of 76.5% (95% CI: 40.9–90.6%). Independently, we found no re-infection among those with prior COVID-19, contributing to 74,557 re-infection-free person-days, adding to the evidence base for the robustness of naturally acquired immunity.
 

Melensdad

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Covid (anti-viral) pills could be the next defense. And, at least the one developed by Emory University and licensed to Ridgeback - Merck, can also treat Ebola and a host of other viral infections.


The full article is at the link above, and it is a long article with lots of information. Worth reading. But here is the gist of the article's discussion on its effectiveness in trials:


The Emory researchers named their drug molnupiravir, after Mjölnir—the hammer of Thor. It turns out that this was not hyperbole. Last month, Merck and Ridgeback announced that molnupiravir could reduce by half the chances that a person infected by the coronavirus would need to be hospitalized. The drug was so overwhelmingly effective that an independent committee asked the researchers to stop their Phase III trial early—it would have been unethical to continue giving participants placebos. None of the nearly four hundred patients who received molnupiravir in the trial went on to die, and the drug had no major side effects. On November 4th, the U.K. became the first country to approve molnupiravir; many observers expect that an emergency-use authorization will come from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration in December.
 

Melensdad

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We have ZERO PROOF that Ivermectin actually works.

But we know that in African nations that allow Ivermetin have low cases
And we know that in India, with regions allowing Ivermectin, the cases are low
Now we have this information from Japan . . . hmmm!?!

Please watch:

 
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